Breaking the Streak question/conspriacy theory.

Firstly, this video is gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heajzl0f2do

Secondly, reliving the event some 6+ months later through the eyes of other fans, my question is why Brock ? Why give that moniker of being the guy to break the streak to Brock Lesner?  Hindsight is always 20/20, but my god you have had to know Brock's heart wasn't in wrestling, you had to know he was just around to pick up a fat paycheck and not ever be on tv. They essentially flushed 20+ years of story telling down the tubes on a guy who isn't going to make them money from breaking the streak ? If you wanna smash over Roman Reigns by having him be the one break the streak fine, but Brock ? I agree with Hitler in the video, it makes absolutely no sense….

Here's my conspiracy theory, it wasn't so much they wanted Brock to break the streak they just wanted to bury and take the momentum off Bryan. The day after Wrestlemania 30, instead of everyone talking about how Daniel Bryan made it to the level of legendary wrestling superstar it was overshadowed by everyone talking the streak ending, thus making D Bry moment take a backseat. They did everything they could including blowing their load on 21 years of Wrestlemania matches just so they could stop a Superstar from breaking through that glass ceiling because its not who they handpicked to carry the ball.

Now normally, I'd think that was crazy.  But after the Punk podcast and opening up that can of worms I have a clearer idea about how WWE does business. And it would absolutely not surprise me at all that they would cut off their nose to spite their face like that.

Please Mr. Keith, tell me I'm delusional and clearly not thinking straight. Tell me they thought Brock going over the streak was good for buinsess and it wasn't just a chess move to keep the guy outta the spot that they didn't want there.


​Let's turn down the crazy knob a little bit.  It's been pretty much established at this point that:
a)  Undertaker didn't want the streak to end, but Vince made the call because he felt like Taker wasn't going to be able to continue the next year and wanted to put someone over.
b)  Brock was the guy who was there that year, and the only guy on the roster who Vince believed to be "worthy" of ending the streak, so he got the win.

Cena v. The Streak

This may have been addressed before, but what the heck.
For the last couple of years on the BOD,  and most other wrestling sites for that matter,  the prospect of Cena/Taker at WM was bandied about once the road to wrestlemania began to coalesce.  Obviously,  between the streak ending and Taker appearing to be finished, it's never going to happen. Question is, in which year do you think it would have made the most sense to do it,  do you think it would have lived up to the hype, and would you have had Cena end the streak. Cheers
​THE STREAK IS NEVER GOING TO … oh, wait, never mind.
I think the second Cena-Rock match should have been Cena-Undertaker, personally.  Would have been the perfect way to cap off Cena's Worst Year Ever redemption arc where he has to do the one thing no one else can in order to come all the way back from the depths of losing to Brock Lesnar (assuming he had lost to Brock, of course).  And yes, I would have had him break the streak there knowing that Taker was so broken down that he'd have that shit performance against Brock the next year.  ​

A way to not break the streak and still put someone over

>

> Hey Scott,

>

> Firstly, I want to say that I'm firmly in the "the streak should never be broken" camp but I think there's a way for them to have their cake and eat it too. What if, say Daniel Bryan takes Undertaker to the limit and the match ends in a draw, double pin, time limit expiry or however you want to book it. But 'Taker and Bryan won't have it and the match gets restarted. And then after a couple more false finishes, 'Taker finally wins after a tombstone.

>

> This way, the streak can still continue and Bryan can claim to be the only man to finish a match with the Undertaker at Wrestlemania not having lost.

>

> Thoughts?

No buys. Either break it or don't break it. If you want to do that game, just put Taker over where it matters (WM) and then he can job a million times clean as a sheet every other day of the year if you want. Taker knows how to make guys look good in losing and could sell Bryan as a threat and then win in the end.

Fanwank alert: I'd tie in the Authority stuff by having HHH tell Bryan to prove that he's an A+ guy once and for all and he has to win every match from now until WM or join the Wyatts again for good. And of course with four weeks to go in his winning streak, HHH reveals that his last challenge will be breaking the UT's streak. So that gives you a guy in a massive win streak challenging Undertaker with real stakes (since fans HATED the Wyatt turn so much) on the line. If Bryan wins, great. If he loses, Undertaker can vouch for Bryan and stand up to the Authority on Bryan's behalf and destroy HHH or something.

Or they could just do Brock v Undertaker yet again, whatever.

The Streak in doubt?

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2013/0515/562702/the-undertaker-going-into-wwe-hall-of-fame-next-year/


This report says Undertaker is being highly considered for the Hall of Fame next year. With it being basically obvious he's facing Cena next year, does this put the result of the Streak in doubt? And if Cena DOES end the Streak and New Orleans happens to be a smark-heavy crowd, how big would the riot be?

John Cena is not turning heel, and the streak is not ending.

How to break the streak yet keep 21-0

Maybe this is dumb, I've never fantasy booked before but today I had a thought because for me there's no real buzz to Punk/Taker which is a shame…


Why not have Punk beat Taker within an inch of his life (zombie life?) and in a moment akin to Triple H delivering the tombstone we get the buy-in from the crowd that CM Punk could end this here…

One… two… two and a half…. lights go out.  Nobody know if it was a 3-count or a kick-out.  The stadium is in darkness.  We get some archive audio from Paul Bearer play into the arena, summoning Taker to rise. Lights come up. A bitching CM Punk is apoplectic with the ref…. zombie sit-up…. takes advantage… 21-0

The streak continues, CM Punk can forever claim to have broken it and a nice and respectful nod to Paul Bearer all in one.
Me crazy?


Crazy is such a strong word.  
I think the "respectful nod to Paul Bearer" train sailed as soon as Punk dumped his supposed ashes on Undertaker last week.  I do think they'll play a Bearer soundclip to distract Punk so that Taker can tombstone him for the win, though.  I'm not a fan of wishy-washy finishes where you don't know who wins, though.  Either break the streak or don't.  Preferably don't.  

The Only Review of The Streak DVD That You’ll Ever Need

The Undertaker vs. Jimmy
Snuka – WrestleMania 7 – March 24, 1991

It’s funny how tame the sets
look back then. I mean, this is WrestleMania, and the entrance is nothing more
than a black curtain with the WWF logo on top. These days they must spend
millions on the entrance sets alone. The match itself, well there’s not much to
speak of. Snuka’s clearly off the cycles. They wrestle in slow motion for about
6 minutes then screw up a spot where Taker was suppose to catch Snuka and turn
it into the Tombstone.

Undertaker hits Snuka with
the Tombstone, getting the pin at 4:20 | *1/2


The Undertaker vs. Jake “The
Snake” Roberts – WrestleMania 8 – April 5, 1992

They trade punches for a
bit, and the match doesn’t really pick up until Jake hits the first of two
DDTs. When Taker sits up from the first one, from the crowd reaction, you can
clearly hear that you’ve got a future World Champion. After the 2nd
DDT, Jake could have scored the pin, but wanted the Urn instead. Where does one
go to fence an item that controls a supernatural wrestling zombie? Anyway,
while he struggles with Paul, The Undertaker comes from behind and delivers a
Tombstone to the outside. Of course, you can see clear as day that Jake’s head
is about 6 feet from the ground. But much like a present, it’s the thought that
counts. A much better bout than the one against Snuka.
Taker hits the Tombstone outside, then rolls Jake in for the pin at 6:36 |
**3/4


The Undertaker vs. Giant
Gonzalez – WrestleMania 9 – April 4, 1993

This match was set up after Taker
defeated Kamala in a set of matches and his manager, Harvey Wippleman, brought
in Gonzalez to exact revenge. Pretty cool entrance on Undertaker’s part. Bill
Alfonso is the ref, before he got a set of teeth that were apparently carved
out of rotted wood. I’ve never seen this match before, and right now I’m
considering GG to be the worst wrestler to have wrestled for the Big 2. Oh boy,
a really extended sleeper spot. This just keeps getting worse until GG gives Taker
the chloroform rag about 6 hours into the match. He’s stretchered to the back
while the crowd chants for Hogan. Yeah, like Hogan is just gonna rush out to
deal with a foreign bad guy when he uses an illegal substance on the good guy.
Gonzalez is DQ’ed for his use of a chloroform rag at 7:33 | DUD


The Undertaker vs. King Kong
Bundy – WrestleMania 11 – April 2, 1995
For those who don’t know, Al Bundy was named after KKB himself. And his
neighbors Steve & Marci Rhodes were named after The American Dream. It
wouldn’t shock me if Dusty tried to get royalties. This match was set up after
KKB interfered in Undertaker’s match against IRS at the Rumble, and they stole
the urn. For a while the focus is more about The Undertaker trying to get the
urn back on the outside. He does at first, but while back in the ring, Kama
runs down and takes it away. Afterward, Bundy and Taker put on a quality match
that could sell out a gym in any state. At one point, Taker bodyslams Bundy,
however I’m not sure if it was a body-slam, or a botched Tombstone attempt.
Either way, a flying clothesline finishes it.

Bundy gets hit with a flying
clothesline, then pinned at 6:36 | *3/4


The Undertaker vs. Diesel –
WrestleMania 12 – March 31, 1996
Funny that the babyface Nash did shit as champion, but heel Nash made
boat-loads of cash for the competition. The match is a lot better than I
expected, with plenty of fists thrown in between power moves like sidewalk
slams and big-boots. At one point The Undertaker receives two jack-knife
powerbombs, but refuses to die. Soon after, it’s the typical Undertaker
formula, but leading up to that is a pretty decent match.
Undertaker delivers the Tombstone, earning the pin at 16:46 | ***


The Undertaker vs. Sycho Sid
[C] – WrestleMania 13 – March 23, 1997 – WWE Championship

After Hall and Nash left,
Sid became my main man. So, I was pretty bummed out when I saw this PPV,
knowing that as cool as I thought Sid was, there was no way he could beat The
Undertaker. Bret shows up to dress down Shawn, who’s at commentary, then tells
The Undertaker they aren’t friends anymore. He then calls Sid a fraud, and Sid
offers a powerbomb in response. I was too young to truly appreciate the
fantastic work Bret was doing as a heel. As for the match, well, it starts off
with a long bear-hug spot and doesn’t pick up much after that. Honestly, the
best word to describe this match is slow. Very slow.
Taker with the Tombstone & the pin at 21:19 | **


The Undertaker vs. Kane –
WrestleMania 14 – March 28, 1998
One of the most anticipated matches in my history as a fan. I loved me some
Stone Cold, but Undertaker vs Kane was why we got WM14. According to Cornette,
Vince Russo wanted Undertaker to chokeslam Kane through a table 2 weeks after
Badd Blood. Now, that would have blown the wad of the angle and completely made
everything they were trying to do pointless, so I have a hard time believing it
was Russo’s idea. Unless the angle was suppose to end with Russo winning the
title and having to forfeit it because his dick was too big to wrestle
full-time.

I forgot just how strong
they booked Kane in the beginning, I mean, he’s not even selling straight
right-hands from The Undertaker, and you may or may not know this, but he’s the
best pure striker in the game. It’s a decent enough match, but despite having a
million more together, they just don’t have very good chemistry.
Undertaker delivers 3 Tombstones in order to put Kane down for the pin at 16:48
| **


The Undertaker vs. Big Boss
Man – WrestleMania 15 – March 28, 1999 – Hell In A Cell
When people call this one of the worst matches of all time, it’s not hyperbole,
it really is. They bumble around and punch each other for the duration of the
match until ‘Taker has The Boss Man hung from the cage. JR says it’s symbolic.
Symbolic of what? A hanging?
Undertaker forces Boss Man to eat a Tombstone for the pin at 9:46 | DUD


The Undertaker vs. Triple H
– WrestleMania 17 – April 1, 2001 – No DQ

They dub over Taker’s
Rollin’ theme, but we’re stuck listening to Lemmy guess the lyrics to a song
he’s apparently never heard. This is God-awful.”It’s all about the Game, and
how you game, it’s all about The Game and if you can game, game…blargel
cermudgen…the game you can’t game is flip de floop claude toot ala smoore
time to game the game”.
This match is without a doubt one of the hardest hitting I’ve ever seen.
These guys go full tilt on each other to the point where I’d still stand behind
my previous statement even if there were no weapons. But of course there are,
with the highlight being Triple H pummeling The Undertaker with a chair so many
times that it’s bent to a crescent. One hell of a match, and my favorite from
WM17.
Undertaker gives HHH the Last Ride into the pin at 18:57 | ****1/2


The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair
– WrestleMania 18 – March 17, 2002 – No DQ

Can anyone
think of a match with a more uneven build up and execution than this one? Soon
after it starts, Flair does the post-flip and takes a sweet boot the face,
cutting him open. Honestly, I think it’s the best boot I’ve seen Taker deliver.
Flair gets his momentum back for a moment with the help of a low-blow and a
barrage of chops, later he gets a lead-pipe, busting open the man JR keeps
calling Booger Red. The match is a real war, with Flair giving a hell of a
performance in that he refuses to die. While he gives a great performance,
Double A gives about as perfect a spinebuster as I’ve ever seen. You also have
to dig two powerbomb-botches in a row. Great match.
Undertaker hits the Tombstone and the pin at 18:47 | ****


The Undertaker vs. Big Show & A-Train – WrestleMania 19 – March 30, 2003
We find out before hand that Nathan Jones was jumped before the match, thus he
won’t be able to complete. No, it had nothing to do with his complete inability
to wrestle. He was awesome in Tony Jaa’s The Protector, though. A-Train
disrespects Undertaker by tilting the rear-view mirror on his bike. I see
perhaps the best sign ever in ‘You Are Butt.’ Considering I believe The
American Bad Ass to be the worst main eventer of all time, I’m surprised this
match isn’t completely atrocious. It was a well-done power game, with no
needless sleepers and other lame big-man spots. Good stuff.
The Undertaker hits A-Train with the Tombstone for the pin at 9:42 | **3/4


The Undertaker vs. Kane – WrestleMania 20 – March 14, 2004
I thought Paul Bearer was a nice touch, as this was seriously the fourth or fifth
time he’d come back from the dead, so you gotta do something fresh. Kane is
actually a decent actor, and is selling this really damn well. He’s almost in
tears. The match is nothing out of the ordinary. Thankfully it’s short, and it
doesn’t do any damage to any one person’s claim of WMXX being the best.
‘Taker hits the Tombstone & the pin at 6:36 | **1/2


The Undertaker vs. Randy Orton – WrestleMania 21 – April 3, 2005
Match starts off right as Orton doesn’t show much fear, instead showing his
ability to not only keep up, but go beyond The Undertaker’s speed and agility.
From that point on, Randy gets flashes of momentum, but can never really keep a
lead on Taker, continually making brash mistakes instead of taking his time,
which works perfectly here. Near the end, however, it really gets going with the
reversals and near-falls, earning this match the title of Undertaker’s most
underrated match at WM. Chokeslam reversal to RKO was brilliant.
Undertaker reverses Randy’s Tombstone into one of his own for the pin at 14:14
| ***1/2


The Undertaker vs. Mark Henry – WrestleMania 22 – April 2, 2006 – Casket Match
Our first and only Casket Match at WM. Interesting that I was dreading having
to watch this match, yet I’d actually like to see it with the current Mark
Henry. Unfortunately we have the Henry of old, and this is just a bunch of
punching, kicking, and attempts to put one another in the casket in a most
boring way.
‘Taker puts Henry in the casket at 9:26 | *


The Undertaker vs. Batista – WrestleMania 23 – April 1, 2007 – World
Heavyweight Championship
This was my favorite feud of 2007, as Taker and Batista went out there every
time in their 5 match series and delivered way beyond any expectations,
starting here at WrestleMania. Batista starts off the match with momentum in
his favor following a spear, and doesn’t let up for a minute until Taker
demands the tide turn with rights, lefts and a big-boot. They battle to the
outside, highlighted by Batista powerslamming The Undertaker through a table in
one hell of a moment. Back in, they really give people their money’s worth,
trading finishers and near-falls until the crowd is frothing at the mouth. One
hell of a match, and easily one of the best at WM.
The Undertaker hits the Tombstone and grabs the pin at 15:00 | ****1/2


The Undertaker vs. Edge – WrestleMania 24 – March 30, 2008 – World Heavyweight
Championsh
ip
As the year before saw Undertaker and Batista deliver my favorite series of
matches for 2007, 2008 saw Taker team up with Edge to do the same. Each time
these guys stepped in the ring they delivered a match in the high 4-star range,
and it all started at WrestleMania 24 for the WHC.
A fantastic match, that showcased and embodied everything that a main event is
suppose to be. Both men had each other scouted to where once Edge’s initial run
of momentum was over, neither ever got the upper-hand for long because it was
counter after counter, like both men were in each others’ heads. Although Undertaker
got his hand raised, I don’t think that there were ever any wrestlers better
than Edge was on this night.
Edge taps out to Hell’s Gate at 23:50 | ****3/4


The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels – WrestleMania 25 – April 5, 2009
I’ve seen this match 6 times. Why you ask? Because I think it’s the most overrated
match of all time, and I keep watching it to see if perhaps the last time will
be the time I see what everyone is talking about. I’ve always had this pegged
at 3 stars, and wondered if perhaps the seventh time was the charm.
It’s a solid match, unfortunately I think most of the aura about this match
lies in having seen it live. This was the first time it was truly up in the
air, and they were damn original. With the multiple finisher kick-outs, the energy
would have been off the charts watching this live. However, seeing it as it is,
it just doesn’t hold up.
Taker with the moonsault reversal into the Tombstone & pin at 30:41 |
***1/4


The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels – WrestleMania 26 – March 28, 2010 – Streak
vs Career
As you all know, I really didn’t like last year’s bout between them. This one,
however, I loved. It was a fucking war. Shawn never showed signs of giving up,
even after a tombstone to the outside, and continued pulling all the stops,
especially with the moonsault onto Undertaker’s legs, crashing through the
table. They gave us awesome near falls, without overdoing the whole finisher
ordeal like the year before. Seeing The Undertaker want to show mercy to Shawn,
but only letting himself be pushed so far was a great storyline aspect. Awesome
match.
Shawn eats a Jumping-Tombstone & pin at 24:00 | ****3/4


The Undertaker vs. Triple H – WrestleMania 27 – April 3, 2011 – No Holds Barred
I don’t think there’s ever been a match that people were so divided on. Peeps
either hate it, or love it. Myself, I’m on the love it side. I saw it live with
a group of friends, and I’ve never had so much fun. Sure, when Mark Henry is
taking a stab at the streak, it’s not in question, but half way through this
one, nobody was sure. Half of my group of friends was for Triple H, the other
half was for Taker. When Triple H hit the Tombstone, the place exploded, and we
all truly thought it was over. Great match
Undertaker puts Triple H in the Gates of Hell and gets the tap out at 29:25 |
*****


The Undertaker vs. Triple H – WrestleMania 28 – April 1, 2012 – Hell in a Cell
Pretty surprised the cell’s Metallica theme is left in. JR just said that Shawn
has to remain ‘unemotional.’ I don’t think anyone has ever failed harder at
their job. Later we see one of my all time favorite moments in wrestling when
Triple H is seemingly trying to kill the Undertaker with countless chair shots.
That’s why you have a cell match, and obviously these two are the only ones who
remember that. A lot of people I was watching with thought the DX Finisher was
it. Thank God it wasn’t. Love the assault Undertaker gives Triple H after that
moment, it was great. In the end, it’s probably my least favorite of their WM
series, but it’s still a fantastic match by any other standards.
Undertaker hits the WrestleMania finish at 30:52 | ****

Showcase Showdown: If I ever watch the Undertaker wrestle at a WM again it’ll
be too soon. I don’t know what it is, because superstar sets are suppose to
feature multiple matches with the same person, but man did this set feel
repetitive. It’s probably because around WM 14 or so, everything was the same.
The entrance, the look, the spots, and the finish. Despite that though, you
can’t argue the amount of quality matches on this set, as The Undertaker’s
streak started to become something more than a win or loss record. Every year
you expected the match to be a MOTYC, and it was living up to those
expectations for a while.
At the moment, it’s unsure if The Undertaker will ever wrestle at WM again. If
that’s the case, I don’t think there will be any regrets on his side or ours.
The streak was the last title fans believed in, the last title that truly meant
something and was a draw all its own. I honestly doubt we’ll see something like
this again, despite the fact WWE will constantly try. Because that’s just it,
something like this you can’t create on purpose.
4 out of 5 Head-Butts. 

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The Streak Ender

Hi Scott,
 
Was thinking if the E decided to end the streak at WM 29 who be the best candidate. Makes no real sense to give the victory to a part-timer or a legend: why waste the streak for a special moment Wrestlemania with no long term benefit. And Cena clearly does not benefit from ending it – at least not compared to someone that can catapult into major player status. Who on the current roster would you trust with this mega push? It's a risk – a big risk. If I had to choose,  I would go with Wade Barrett. Though I am not aware of his committment and attitude, (which should factor in this decision) from what I see he is moderately over, a talent and could be built up as a strong heel. Put him over Mysterio at Summer Slam, Orton at the Rumble and then Taker at Mania. What do you think?  

There is absolutely no reason or need to ever end the streak.  The money is in the chase of that streak, and once it ends there's no way to ever go back to it again.  This isn't like where you chase a title for a long time and then win it and get over as a result, it took 20 years to build this up and wrecking it would piss of a significant amount of the fanbase and throw away a SIGNIFICANT chunk of the annual buys for the show.  
Plus clearly the answer is David Otunga, duh.  

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

They Call Him The Streak

Scott –

Everyone makes a big deal about the Undertaker’s undefeated streak at Wrestlemania – and rightfully so.  My question is – was it planned to be that way?  I doubt that Vince and Company said “We’ll bring in this Mark Callous kid, push the crap out of him and have him wrestling 25 years from now – and along the way we’ll have him go undefeated at Wrestlemania!”

If you look at some of the matches he had (the Giant Gonzalez one where he won by DQ comes to mind), the Streak wasn’t a mythical quest at that point.  However, along the line someone picked up on it and it became a story unto itself.

So – when did “The Streak” become “The Streak”?  And was there a mastermind behind it?  Vince?  Taker?

 

I recall the streak becoming something that was noted around Wrestlemania 18, with someone basically going “Hey, Undertaker is undefeated at Wrestlemania, that’s pretty neat.”  It certainly wasn’t the focal point of the show, as the first time I remember them making a big deal out of someone challenging the streak was Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 21.  I think it just kind of grew organically out of people talking about the streak, rather than being something that anyone came up with a cool marketing point.

Of course, this year HHH and HBK are in cahoots and have a SECRET PLAN so it’ll probably end, right?

Thus Endeth The Streak

Heya Scott,
I’ve caught a few episodes of TNA lately and from the sound of it, that
Crimson guy has a pretty decent win streak. Knowing Bischoff, it’ll come
to an unsatisfying end.
Has there ever been a satisfying end of a winning streak? What are your
thoughts on a good way to wrap one up?

I thought that Andre’s came to a pretty satisfying end.  So did Mr. Perfect’s, actually, aside from being on a house show.  But if you could Wrestlemania VI as the ending, it was pretty good too.  The key, which I think is an obvious point, is that you should end the streak when the guy is a heel, so that people will WANT to see him lose.  If the Goldberg-Nash feud had more lead time, they could have turned Goldberg a couple of months in advance and made the fans actually want to see Nash be the one to end it.  Probably would have been easy to turn the fans on him, too:  Just have him do the opposite of what he was doing.  Instead of having him physically impressive feats against monsters, just keep having him defend the title against luchadors and then brag about how he only faces top competition.  Kind of like how Perfect was undefeated for a year, but he only fought scrubs and midcarders, so no one took him seriously as a threat and Hogan was able to convincingly beat him at the top.  Using a win streak to get a babyface over is great, but you need an endgame. 

Thus Endeth The Streak

Heya Scott,
I’ve caught a few episodes of TNA lately and from the sound of it, that
Crimson guy has a pretty decent win streak. Knowing Bischoff, it’ll come
to an unsatisfying end.
Has there ever been a satisfying end of a winning streak? What are your
thoughts on a good way to wrap one up?

I thought that Andre’s came to a pretty satisfying end.  So did Mr. Perfect’s, actually, aside from being on a house show.  But if you could Wrestlemania VI as the ending, it was pretty good too.  The key, which I think is an obvious point, is that you should end the streak when the guy is a heel, so that people will WANT to see him lose.  If the Goldberg-Nash feud had more lead time, they could have turned Goldberg a couple of months in advance and made the fans actually want to see Nash be the one to end it.  Probably would have been easy to turn the fans on him, too:  Just have him do the opposite of what he was doing.  Instead of having him physically impressive feats against monsters, just keep having him defend the title against luchadors and then brag about how he only faces top competition.  Kind of like how Perfect was undefeated for a year, but he only fought scrubs and midcarders, so no one took him seriously as a threat and Hogan was able to convincingly beat him at the top.  Using a win streak to get a babyface over is great, but you need an endgame. 

Thus Endeth The Streak

Heya Scott,
I’ve caught a few episodes of TNA lately and from the sound of it, that
Crimson guy has a pretty decent win streak. Knowing Bischoff, it’ll come
to an unsatisfying end.
Has there ever been a satisfying end of a winning streak? What are your
thoughts on a good way to wrap one up?

I thought that Andre’s came to a pretty satisfying end.  So did Mr. Perfect’s, actually, aside from being on a house show.  But if you could Wrestlemania VI as the ending, it was pretty good too.  The key, which I think is an obvious point, is that you should end the streak when the guy is a heel, so that people will WANT to see him lose.  If the Goldberg-Nash feud had more lead time, they could have turned Goldberg a couple of months in advance and made the fans actually want to see Nash be the one to end it.  Probably would have been easy to turn the fans on him, too:  Just have him do the opposite of what he was doing.  Instead of having him physically impressive feats against monsters, just keep having him defend the title against luchadors and then brag about how he only faces top competition.  Kind of like how Perfect was undefeated for a year, but he only fought scrubs and midcarders, so no one took him seriously as a threat and Hogan was able to convincingly beat him at the top.  Using a win streak to get a babyface over is great, but you need an endgame. 

Thus Endeth The Streak

Heya Scott,
I’ve caught a few episodes of TNA lately and from the sound of it, that
Crimson guy has a pretty decent win streak. Knowing Bischoff, it’ll come
to an unsatisfying end.
Has there ever been a satisfying end of a winning streak? What are your
thoughts on a good way to wrap one up?

I thought that Andre’s came to a pretty satisfying end.  So did Mr. Perfect’s, actually, aside from being on a house show.  But if you could Wrestlemania VI as the ending, it was pretty good too.  The key, which I think is an obvious point, is that you should end the streak when the guy is a heel, so that people will WANT to see him lose.  If the Goldberg-Nash feud had more lead time, they could have turned Goldberg a couple of months in advance and made the fans actually want to see Nash be the one to end it.  Probably would have been easy to turn the fans on him, too:  Just have him do the opposite of what he was doing.  Instead of having him physically impressive feats against monsters, just keep having him defend the title against luchadors and then brag about how he only faces top competition.  Kind of like how Perfect was undefeated for a year, but he only fought scrubs and midcarders, so no one took him seriously as a threat and Hogan was able to convincingly beat him at the top.  Using a win streak to get a babyface over is great, but you need an endgame.