Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF Monday Night RAW 10-18-1993

Live from Poughkeepsie, NY

Airdate: October 18, 1993

Attendance: unknown

Hosted by Vince McMahon, “Macho Man” Randy Savage, & Bobby “The Brain” Heenan

Will Savage and Crush reconcile their differences? Can Michaels be reinstated? Who’s the new guy in the WWF? Also, **BREAKING NEWS** included just for your amusement. Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF Monday Night RAW 09-13-1993

Live from New York, NY

Airdate: September 13, 1993

Attendance: 1,200 (sold out)

Hosted by Vince McMahon, “Macho Man” Randy Savage, and Bobby “The Brain” Heenan

Can the Steiners hold off the challenge of the Quebecers? What does Doink have in store for us this week? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF Summerslam 1993

Live from Auburn Hills, MI

Airdate: August 30, 1993

Attendance: 14,100

Hosted by Vince McMahon & Bobby “The Brain” Heenan

Can Luger stand up for America and defeat Yokozuna for the WWF title? Who will be the sole King of the WWF? Will Michaels and Perfect provide us with a “classic” match? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF Monday Night RAW 06-21-93

Live from Poughkeepsie, NY

Airdate: June 21, 1993

Attendance: unknown

Hosted by Vince McMahon, “Macho Man” Randy Savage, and Bobby “The Brain” Heenan

Who will win the rematch between Doink and Jannetty? Can the Kid survive against Ramon for the sake of $10,000? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF Monday Night RAW 06-07-1993

Live from New York, NY

Airdate: June 7, 1993

Attendance: unknown

Hosted by Vince McMahon, “Macho Man” Randy Savage, and Bobby “The Brain” Heenan

What’s new and improved with Michaels? Who will win the crazy tag match consisting of Steiners, Gunns, Money, Inc., and Headshrinkers? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF Monday Night RAW 04-05-1993

Taped from New York, NY

Airdate: April 5, 1993 (taped 3/22)

Attendance: 1,000 (sold out)

Hosted by Vince McMahon & “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Lawler makes his RAW debut, so this episode is special, right? There couldn’t be celebrity guests trying to attach themselves to this glorious moment, are there?

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WWF WrestleMania IX

Live from Las Vegas, NV

Airdate: April 4, 1993

Attendance:  15,045 (14,000 paid)

Hosted by Jim Ross, “Macho Man” Randy Savage & Bobby “The Brain” Heenan

Will Bret retain the WWF title against Yokozuna? How will Hogan affect WrestleMania this year? How does this show compare to previous WrestleManias? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW/NJPW Supershow III

Live from Tokyo, Japan

Airdate: January 4, 1993

Attendance:  63,500 (sold out)

Will Muta finally beat Chono and unify the NWA and IWGP titles? Will it be worthwhile unlike the match at Starrcade? Can Liger regain the IWGP junior heavyweight title against Ultimo Dragon? What happens when the Hell Raisers and Steiners lock up? Who will win the battle between Tenryu and Chosu? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW Clash of the Champions XX

NWA Clash of the Champions XX

Live from Atlanta, GA

Airdate:  September 2, 1992

Attendance: 500

Hosted by Jim Ross & Jesse “The Body” Ventura

WCW celebrates twenty years on TBS. Who will make special appearances? Can Steamboat defeat Austin for the TV title? What happens with Brian Pillman? Included is a special BONUS match. What is it? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW Clash of the Champions XIX

Taped from Charleston, SC

Airdate:  June 22, 1992 (taped 6/16)

Attendance: 4,600 (2,500 paid)

Hosted by Jim Ross & Jesse “The Body” Ventura

Welcome to the first round of the NWA World tag team tournament. Who will advance to the quarterfinals? What else does “Cowboy” Bill Watts have in store? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW Beach Blast ’92

Live from Mobile, AL

Airdate: June 20, 1992

Attendance:  5,000

Hosted by Jim Ross & Jesse “The Body” Ventura

Can Cactus Jack defeat WCW World champion Sting in a falls-count-anywhere match? Who will win the 30-minute Iron Man challenge? Oh, and there’s stuff going down in WCW, too? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW WrestleWar ’92

Live from Jacksonville, FL

Airdate: May 17, 1992

Attendance:  6,000

Hosted by Jim Ross & Jesse “The Body” Ventura

Who will win WarGames? Sting’s Squadron or the Dangerous Alliance? Can Z-Man beat his former tag team partner for the light heavyweight title? Who is this mysterious Super Invader? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW-NJPW Supershow II

Live from Tokyo, Japan

Airdate: January 4, 1992

Attendance:  50,000

Will Chosu or Fujinami unify the G18/IWGP title? Can Chono win the WCW World title? Will Muta and Sting keep their peace against the Steiners? Let’s find out!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW Clash of the Champions XV: Knocksville USA

Live from Knoxville, TN

Airdate:  June 12, 1991

Attendance:  5,000

Hosted by Jim Ross & Tony Schiavone

Can “Beautiful” Bobby become champion? How is Jason Hervey involved? Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW SuperBrawl

Live from St. Petersburg, FL

Airdate: May 19, 1991

Attendance:  6,000 (4,887 paid)

Hosted by Jim Ross & the “American Dream” Dusty Rhodes

Can Flair regain the NWA World title? Or can he retain the WCW World title? Confused? Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW-NJPW Supershow ’91

Live from Tokyo, Japan

Airdate: March 21, 1991

Attendance:  55,000

Since I watched this on NJPW World and know approximately three words in Japanese, this ought to be interesting. Also, this was dubbed “Starrcade ’91 in Tokyo Dome” so if the real Starrcade ’91 sucks, WCW didn’t recruit enough Japanese wrestlers.

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Rock Star Gary reflects on WCW WrestleWar ’91

Live from Phoenix, AZ

Airdate: February 24, 1991

Attendance:  6,800

Hosted by Jim Ross & the “American Dream” Dusty Rhodes

“War” in the desert? Is there some hidden meaning here?

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Rock Star Gary reflects on NWA Clash XIII: Thanksgiving Thunder

Live from Jacksonville, FL

Airdate: November 20, 1990

Attendance: unknown

Hosted by Jim Ross & Paul E. Dangerously

If you were a wrestling fan in 1990, this was the first of three supershows during Thanksgiving week. Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on NWA Halloween Havoc ’90

NWA Halloween Havoc ’90

Live from Chicago, IL

Airdate: October 27, 1990

Attendance:  8,000 (sold out)

Hosted by Jim Ross & Paul E. Dangerously

Can Sting overcome Sid while still dealing with the Black Scorpion? What trick does the Black Scorpion have up his sleeve? Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on NWA Great American Bash ’90: New Revolution

Live from Baltimore, MD

Airdate: July 7, 1990

Attendance:  10,000 (8.900 paid)

Hosted by Jim Ross & Bob Caudle

Will this be Sting’s crowning moment? Or will the “Nature Boy” continue to reign as World champion? Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on NWA Clash of the Champions XI: Coastal Crush

Live from Charleston, SC

Airdate:  June 13, 1990

Attendance:  unknown

Hosted by Tony Schiavone, Jim Ross, & Bob Caudle

Which is worse? JYD’s workrate or El Gigante’s English? Read on!

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Rock Star Gary reflects on NWA Starrcade ’89: Future Shock

Live from Atlanta, GA

Airdate: December 13, 1989

Attendance:  6,000

Hosted by Jim Ross, Terry Funk, & Jim Cornette

Since WCW used Funk for color commentary on singles matches and Cornette on tag teams, I thought I’d offer my own special guests…read on!

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Heel Steiners?

Hey Scott,


I’ve been watching a bunch of old Steiner Brothers matches of late. It amazes me they spent their entire 1st WCW and WWF runs as babyfaces when everything about their style screams heel. Their body language, the way they’d smile when suplexing people, they didn’t give anyone much offense, and they were kind of bullies in the ring. And that doesn’t even go into how stiff and rough they were.

Didn’t anyone see the money in an extended Steiner’s run as dominant, viscous heels? Or were bookers so enamored with their amateur background and relatively wholesome looks?


Yeah, pretty much. I mean obviously Scott Steiner figured out himself that the money was in being a heel later on, but I think most people that booked them just wanted them at most to be the "rough babyface" character like Lou Thesz used to do. But I mean, sure in hindsight we know what an awesome heel that Scott turned out to be, but for years and years they were natural babyfaces even with their behavior in the ring, so I can see why no one wanted to try something different. If it’s still making money, why change it?

Steiners’ WWF run

Hey Scott,

The WWF gets a lot of deserved heat for failing to push stars who've previously established themselves outside the company.  Sting is an obvious recent example, but you can go back to Goldberg or pretty much any post-Monday Night War WCW refugee.


One act that doesn't seem to get brought up a lot in this context is the Steiner Bros.  But if you think about it, their 1993-94 run in the WWF was one of the more disappointing flops in WWF/E history, given expectations coming in.  The Steiner Bros. were far and away the best tag team in the world when they jumped in early 93.  No one else was even close.  Not to mention Scott's breakout potential as a singles star.

Their first few months with the company were OK. Wins over the Beverlys and the Headshrinkers at the Rumble and Mania, respectively, weren't terrible ways to establish them as contenders.  But letting Hogan and Beefcake completely overshadow the rest of the tag division before WM IX was a mistake, I think.  And when it finally came time for the Steiners to win the titles from Money, Inc., it happened on a random house show (and, IIRC, they dropped and regained them in the next two cities for no reason whatsoever).  Other than that, they never really definitively beat Money Inc.; the latter just split up and faded away unceremoniously (the cage match on Summerslam Spectacular and/or RAW was great but they should have saved it for the PPV).  To make things worse, they then paired the Steiners up with the Heavenly Bodies, who were literally marketed as an indie team.  Shortly thereafter, the Steiners unceremoniously lose the belts 3 months into their reign to the newcomer Quebecers, an old midcard comedy act teamed up with a rookie.  After that, with the exception of the Survivor Series main event, they were pretty invisible (MOM got the Mania X title shot over them for Gods sake!)

I know there were issues about them working Japan.  I can see that pissing Vince off, I guess.  Other than that, though, was there any reason for their short run?  Did they bomb at the box office?

Well they were never really put into a position to draw so it's hard to say they bombed.  But certainly there was tons of friction over their refusal to give up Japanese dates and their reputation for being hard to get along with in general.  And then Vince may have wanted to break up the team and push Scott and they wouldn't go along with that either.  For me, you've got the greatest tag team in the world, who fucking cares if they want to work New Japan dates half the time.  But Vince is Vince and if you weren't a WWF creation and don't want to do things 100% his way, you're nothing and get treated like nothing.