Johnny Mundo on the Shining Wizards Wrestling Podcast

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Recently the Shining Wizards spoke with Johnny Mundo aka John Hennigan. Here are some highlights:

On Lucha Underground:  I like a lot that you compared it to ECW, because that’s one of the comparisons that I make often.  Not necessarily that it is ECW, but ECW really felt like it was its own world.  It wasn’t WWE’s lights.  It was its own thing, and I definitely felt that way about Lucha Underground from day one.  It always had its own identity. That Identity is evolving as time goes on.  As the bigger superstars get signed, and that happens more frequently, as we got (Alberto) Del Rio now and who knows what could be happening in the next couple of weeks. This isn’t just a wrestling show.  This is a world we are creating and that appealed to me.  It’s not just a typical wrestling show that’s going to be gone the next day or move.  The Identity is not going to be changing.  So far it’s been really good. On being happy post-WWE: Oh 100%. In WWE, you’re wrestling matches with handcuffs on.  You come up with ideas constantly, and half the time you’re not allowed to do what you want.  I understand why it’s like that because it’s a business and they’re very protective of talent, angles, and the things that they’re doing, but I feel like it started to become a case where they were trying too hard to resist all this new stuff, ideas, and moves.  I think it started hurting their product, and it’s been hurting their product for a while.  And it’s really nice to not have to deal with that and to go in and say that I’ve got 5 cool ideas, and Prince Puma has 5 cool ideas, and while we’re not probably going to be able to do all of them in every match, let’s pick the coolest stuff and do it. On Lucha’s faith in him:  It means a lot.  And like I said, I couldn’t be happier to be a part of this organization.  I do think that what I’m doing in Lucha Underground is great for me and it’s really good for them too.  I’m pouring a ton of energy into Lucha Underground and going out of my way to not even have the best matches that I can have, but have the best match I can have and then some.  Taking risks and pushing myself to try things that I’ve never tried in WWE because they probably wouldn’t have been allowed or the people that I was working with might not have wanted to go that far.  To have free range and the responsibility and the trust to let me pull the wagons so to speak for Lucha Underground has been really rad. Lucha vs. WWE creative:  For one, the Lucha Underground creative team is top notch.  They are very all solid, talented people.  There’s no eccentric billionaire who’s showing up at the last minute and demanding Lucha Underground to be rewritten the day of TV.  I really feel like that is the difference.  I feel like other promotions have too many chefs in the kitchen, so to speak. There are too many people with power, and they have different agendas, and when those agendas collide, and arguing starts to happen over storylines with stuff getting changed the day of, it starts to suck for the fans because you’re following a story and a couple weeks in the whole thing gets squashed or changed and it doesn’t seem like anything ever happens or pays off.  I think Lucha Underground has done a good job so far of having their stories pay off and creating intrigue in this world they have created. Vince Russo’s involvement:  Yeah he was there.  I did an interview with him for his YouTube channel.  He was there to watch the show, though.  He is in no way going to be a part of the creative team of Lucha Underground.  Everyone there knows that’s 100% true.  Vince Russo knows that’s 100% true.  I don’t know if he’s trying to tell people he is or not, but he’s not.  He was there as a wrestling fan.  He told me and everyone there that he watched the show and he had a good time.  He interviewed some of the talent, and I had a really fun 20 minute interview with Vince Russo. Just shooting the sh*t about WCW, TNA, WWE, Lucha Underground, and when he puts it up on his channel I hope everyone watches, but he is not involved with the creative of Lucha Underground. For more with Johnny Mundo, including his thoughts on Alberto El Patron, Rey Mysterio, Russell Madness, and more, go to and listen to Episode 194: Mundo Underground.

Curt Hawkins on the Shining Wizards Wrestling Podcast

Recently the Shining Wizards Podcast spoke with Curt Hawkins. Here are some highlights:

About the creation of Create A Pro Wrestling School:  Not being booked in The WWE, I became completely paranoid and fearful of being called on the road and being out of ring shape.  And any wrestler knows that you can’t really duplicate what we do in the ring conditioning-wise.  You can’t duplicate wrestling unless you wrestle.   To be honest with you, I just wanted a place to train.  One night, Pat Buck and I were just spitballing at dinner after a training session at The Pro Wrestling Syndicate School in Rahway, NJ, and I said I’d love to open a school in New York, and Pat Said he’d love to do it with me and I was like, “ok” and it just caught fire from there.  It was something I was always going to do and it was always a dream of mine to open a wrestling school, and it might have happened a little sooner than I ever thought, but now that I have it and we’re cooking on all cylinders and I get the satisfaction of teaching guys, and seeing guys develop and understand stuff.  I can’t wait ’til these guys to have matches.
On working with top names like Edge & Undertaker:  It was a once in a lifetime, indescribable, priceless learning experience.  I can tell you honestly that I probably pitched 400 ideas the whole time I was in WWE and that was the ONE time they said, “Yeah sure” when we pitched can we be Edge’s henchmen.  You know we’ll look like him and they actually went with it.  That’s how hard it is to get things going.  I don’t know what it is or why they say yes or no.  Sometimes I feel like they need to be the ones that have the idea for it to work it but I’m forever grateful for it because the opportunity was indescribable.  I mean, I wrestled Shawn Michaels & Ric Flair in a steel cage in Chicago.  I’ve wrestled The Undertaker more times than I can remember.  I basically shadowed Edge for an entire year seeing him prepare for world title matches on PPVs and WrestleMania.  I saw it all first hand.  It was an incredible learning environment that could never be duplicated again.  I’ll always be grateful for that.
On NXT:  I loved NXT and performing and being a part of the shows.  The live arena crowd is absolutely awesome.  They are lively and passionate fans and that’s all you can ask for as a performer.  I had no interest in being a part of NXT and training or things like that because I’m ten years in and I don’t think I need to be in there going over headlocks and armdrags, or taking unnecessary bumps that I don’t need to be taking.
On his WWE release:  It was expected to an extent.  Really I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.  They weren’t using me and I was just living this life of sitting and waiting around and not able to commit to things in my real life.  Like if I wanted to go a wedding, I never know if they (WWE) are going to come calling.  It was kind of annoying, to be honest with you.  And anyone that knows me knows that I’m just crazy about wrestling, and I’ve had my pulse on the Indy scene and it’s something I’ve been dying to dive into and now I finally can.
For more with Curt Hawkins, including his main run in WWE, not being used, Brian Pillman’s influence on his career, his future, and more, go to and listen to Episode 156: Shining Wizards Wildlife Foundation, Hawks and Fish. The Shining Wizards Podcast is available on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, AudioBoo, Geek Life Radio, Clutch and Wiggle Entertainment, Marks 4 Life, and the Shining Wizards Network (

Steve Corino appearance on the Shining Wizards Podcast

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Recently the Shining Wizards Podcast spoke with the "King of Old School" Steve Corino. Here are some highlights:

On his time with OMEGA:  It was great.  I had met The Hardy Boys in 1996 when we were all just job guys in the WWF and me and Matt hit it off right away and he had told me his plan for OMEGA and I wanted to be a part of it.  Myself and Joey Mercury and Christian York would drive down there and be a part of it.  It was crazy because we didn't know what was going on, but we were just guys who loved wrestling, and wanted to be something different.  Years later people would be like, “wow this is something good.”   His “elimination” from the WWE's light heavyweight title tournament:  I was in the original bracket for like a week, and then I was replaced.  Because at the time they were doing the qualifying matches on like Shotgun Saturday Night , and this was like before Scott (Taylor) was Scotty Too Hotty, and Brian Christopher was just Brian Christopher from Memphis, and it was just this big thing to put the title on Taka (Michinoku).  So you would win a match on Shotgun or Superstars and "qualify" for the tournament.  My chance to qualify was in Atlantic City in 1997 and I was wrestling Jimmy Cicero, and we ended up getting bumped off the show because The Iron Sheik & Tiger Ali Singh went way too long.  I was angry for like a year at Tiger Ali Singh, but now he's one of my better friends.  So they ended up scrapping my match and in return, they sent me to Memphis to USWA for the last few weeks before the company closed.   On his start with ECW & The $100 Toehold Challenge with Tommy Dreamer:  I was back on the indies for about a year before I started with ECW.  I was working with Nova a lot leading to a big cage match and Dreamer was there, and he liked my anti hardcore thing, and eventually there was an opportunity for a guy to come in (to ECW). And Nova told Paul, "I know you want Reckless Youth, but I think Steve Corino would be a perfect fit."  We both got tryouts and I ended up getting a job.  And then I was just an opening match jobber for guys like Chetti & Nova for like the first 3 months, and then we were in Trenton, NJ and Dreamer said he would work with me that night.  He asked me if I was good on the mic, and I said I was alright.  He told me to come up with something funny, and I came up with the whole $100 challenge and we ended up having a 22 minute match and 11 minutes was on the microphone during the match.   On promos being scripted:  It's the evolution of wrestling.  The WWE is such a television show.  They call it sports entertainment, and it's very much like your Law & Order or Modern Family.  They follow a script.  Would I personally love it to be more of a Curb Your Enthusiasm where you get to improv some stuff?  Absolutely.  And I think a lot of times the talent is a little more comfortable with that.  On a personal level, give me an idea of what you want and I'll just go with the flow.  It always worked for me in ECW.  Paul would give me an outline and I would fill in the blanks.   Did TNN sabotage ECW?  Everybody was so excited about going on TNN, and I remember the first Television taping- I thought it went all wrong.  Why were we doing TV in Dayton, Ohio when we were a Philadelphia company or a Queens, NY company?  Why aren't we putting our best crowd in there?  Not that Dayton was a bad city, but why are we going to a big arena trying to tape TV when we were this alternative blood and guts, smoky arena type of company?  I knew right from there that Paul (Heyman) wasn't happy.  I think the first taping got scratched and we had to do a second one.  And Paul didn't do himself any favors, because instead of being corporate Paul, he was, you know, Paul Heyman.  He created "The Network" to crap on the network we were on.   On Ring Of Honor through the years:  It's so different. I think that people tend to forget how different it is. ROH is not Gabe (Sapolsky), Doug (Gentry) or Rob Feinstein's ROH anymore.  It's a television product for Sinclair Broadcasting.  It's basically their brand for their Television stations and I think it's on in 88 different markets, but it's really become a television product.  Some of the loyal fans from 2002-2010 say we've lost what we were going for and they just have to realize that it's a different product.  Gabe, Doug, and Rob's vision was awesome and so was Cary (Silkin) and Adam Pearce's and now with corporate backing it and with Hunter Johnston as the booker, it's still great, it's just a little bit different.  It's a different world.   Does Sinclair have any say in on-air product for Ring of Honor?  I'm sure, but I don't know that.  It's very quiet about how things work in the office.  It's a “don't ask, don't tell" thing also, and things are good, so why poke the bear if we don't need to?   On Matt Hardy in ROH:  A lot of people don't understand why Matt Hardy was brought in, but they have to understand the television business side of it.  Matt Hardy, for a lot of years, was on the WWE and they were in front of 3-5 million people a week.  People know who Matt Hardy is and if you can get an extra 10% of those people watching your show (ROH) just because Matt Hardy is on there – it's not that Matt Hardy is being featured, it 's just that fan that says he only watches WWE and who do does Ring Of Honor have, and you say "Michael Elgin, Kevin Steen,  Steve Corino, and Nigel Mcguinness," and they've never heard of them, but then you say you have Matt Hardy. They'll say they remember Matt Hardy and his brother Jeff and they watch the show and see Matt.  But then they see these guys like the Adam Coles, Michael Elgins, Jay Lethals, and Tommaso Ciampas and Kevin Steens, and they say, "Wow this is what we want to watch."  I think that's part of the influence.     On Daniel Bryan:  We over-think sometimes as fans.  I watch Raw and Smackdown as a fan.  I never try to over-analyze and say they're doing this or that wrong.  There is no doubt that Daniel Bryan is so over, right?  But, you don't think WWE knows this?  You don't think a money making machine like WWE doesn't see what's going on?  I think us as wrestling fans want Daniel Bryan to be in that main event spot right now, whereas the WWE says we're making money off this guy right now.  Let's string it along and see how far we can go because we're going to need a main event for Wrestlemania 31.  Stone Cold Steve Austin was over at King Of The Ring 1996, but go back and see how long it took him, as they strung him along, and people wanted to cheer, and they were cheering him at Survivor Series 1996 with Bret (Hart).  They were cheering him in every match, and finally they did the turn and put the rocket up his ass a little bit after WrestleMania 13 and he didn't get the belt until the next WrestleMania, so you have a year and a half where they knew he was over and he was going to make big money for them and they just took their time, and I think that's what they're doing here with Daniel.  They know he's over and he's not going anywhere.  Think about how genius it was putting him with The Wyatt family for 3 weeks.   They literally turn him heel and the crowd said no way.  The fans feel like Bryan is one of them and he is doing everything they would do if they were wrestlers.  I think it's great.  To me, if I'm Vince McMahon or Triple H or Stephanie McMahon, I have it in my mind how Daniel Bryan vs. CM Punk is my main event for WrestleMania 31.

For more with Steve Corino, including more about Daniel Bryan & CM Punk, working with Sandman when he was sober, his angle with Limp Bizkit, his tenures in Puerto Rico & Japan, and comparisons of the fans in ROH and ECW, go to and listen to Episode 133: A Sober Sandman. The Shining Wizards Podcast is available on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, AudioBoo, Geek Life Radio, Clutch and Wiggle Entertainment, and the Shining Wizards Network.

Lanny Poffo on Shining Wizards

Recently the Shining Wizards Podcast spoke with the "Genius" Lanny Poffo. about his career, the life of his brother Randy Savage, and more.

Here are some highlights:

On letting WWE induct Randy Savage into the Hall of Fame against Randy's wishes, and the general lack of respect shown to him:

It occurred to me that I decided "what a minute, I'm not going to be put in the middle of all this." The thing is the WWE did not ask my permission to run the parody of the Huckster and the Nacho Man, and I don't have a battery of lawyers on retainer, so my belief is, do what you want. You want to honor him? Go ahead. This is the same company that didn't send its condolences to my mother who is going to be 87 in January. Now I know they made a nice video tribute, but don't you understand that that's just PR. Just like when they fire you, they wish you luck on your future endeavors? That's PR, they have a public relations department. So naturally, when somebody dies, and everybody always has, you know, because it's either suicide or an overdose. In Randy's case it was one of the few honorable deaths they've had. His toxicology report was crystal clear. Clean. And that meant a lot to me. Well, name a wrestler that died and they've all got something wrong with their toxicology report… Remember the Huckster and the Nacho Man? Everyone says "What's the matter? Can't you take a joke?" Well, some of those jokes were a little bit… like they accused Hulk Hogan of doing Elizabeth. Remember that one, when they did the Larry King one? And I thought that was- they said "How was Elizabeth?" "Not too good." The guy imitating Hulk Hogan and Randy looked at each other. And they made fun of his balding, and that was a little bit of lack of respect. So I said wait a minute, it's true that Randy wanted the Poffos to go in as a family but you can't make them do that. So I figured, rather than put myself in the middle for the rest of my life, I said hey, go ahead and do whatever you want. I only have two requests. Leave me out of it- don't invite me- and please don't pay me, because I don't need the thirty pieces of silver. That was the amount Judas Iscariot took to betray Jesus…

On whether he was an innovator:

I like to consider myself just a guy that was in the right time and at the right place. Everybody says I invented the moonsault. Well, the truth is I invented it like moments after I saw video of Tiger Mask doing it to the Dynamite Kid. I thought, wow, I think I can do that. I don't know if he innovated it. And then people say "you mind if I do the moonsault?" I said hey, I stole it, too. Just don't get hurt and don't hurt anyone, because those are possibilities. I don't know if I innovated anything, except I can honestly say that every poem you ever heard me recite, I wrote on my own. I don't consider plagiarism to be a joke.

On owing his career to Randy and becoming the Genius:

Let's get something straight. Anything good that happened to me was indirectly or directly because of my brother. If I weren't the brother of the "Macho Man" Randy Savage, you wouldn't know who the hell I was. He opened doors for me. We were in the car discussing gimmicks. And he was always on my team trying to help me. We came up with this Genius thing and he was a stickler for details. He presented it, he got it done. I tried to follow through with it and did the very best I could to try to recreate myself. To reshuffle the deck and try to make the people forget that was ever "Leaping" Lanny by changing my personality. And I did my very best to entertain the people; it is sports entertainment… one of the people I really stole from was Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther… It was a one-joke movie. "I knew that, you idiot. I was only testing you." I thought the Genius would be a good character if he was not that smart, just thought he was. Because if I was really that smart, I would have to be a babyface. But if I'm a heel I would like to be a buffoon genius- to be something hilarious in a business that was very serious at the time. Now they've got other comedians sometimes I've noticed, but I was like the only one. I have to say, God bless Bobby Heenan, you know he's a cancer survivor and I hope he's doing well. He didn't raise any objection to me being the Genius. After all, he was already the Brain. But what was I going to do? Point to my arms? I have garden-hose arms compared to Hercules Hernandez, the Warlord, the Barbarian, Hulk Hogan, the Ultimate Warrior, "Macho Man" Randy Savage. My arms are just as long, but much thinner. I couldn't point to my arms… I had to point to my head because I didn't have what they call a body in wrestling.

The circumstances of Randy's death:

First of all, he didn't die from an automobile accident; he had ventricular fibrillation… the heart is divided into the left and right atrium and left and right ventricle. That's four chambers. And the bottom chamber, which is v-shaped, fibrillated, which means it quivered, which meant he wasn't getting enough oxygen into his blood; the blood wasn't going everywhere, and he said "I think I'm going to pass out." And that was his last words… And his wife, she was the hero because when he passed out at the wheel, his foot was on he accelerator, and she grabbed the wheel of the Jeep Wrangler and steered it into a tree,  because they would've hit a motorcyclist and behind that was a bus. So when they're going the wrong way going about 35-40 miles per hour- and that's just what happened. When you have a heart problem, it would be nice if you're not driving at the time, but that's what they were doing, and Lynn was the hero.

On Randy leaving for WCW and his relationship with Slim Jim:

Randy wanted to work with Shawn Michaels. He wanted to have a two-year program with him. They said they were having a youth movement, and that's why he quit. He said "I think I'll get a second opinion on that." He would've lost the match to Shawn Michaels, at WrestleMania, but his goal, and one of the things that bothered him the most, was that he was never able to have a match as good as the one he had with Ricky Steamboat. He felt, even his his advanced years, I guess he was 41, that he could have a Ricky Steamboat-caliber match with Shawn Michaels. I don't know if he could or if he couldn't any more that if, you know, if he was already too old or whatever, but wouldn't you love to see him try? He would've put him over, in the middle of the ring, and retired to the announce booth… but instead he went to the WCW and guess what he brought with him? Snap into a Slim Jim. And Vince doesn't like to lose even one round. You know the difference between WWF and Slim Jim? Slim Jim sent to me and my mom and Randy's widow? A beautiful bouquet of flowers, and best wishes, and condolences. And we didn't get anything from the WWE. The only condolences I got are from two guys. They are Howard Finkel, and last month I got a call from Steve Lombardi. Now in these two cases, this is not management, this is labor. So there's a little bit of a difference there. If I embarrass anybody then so be it. You know what? I'm gonna be 59 years old December 28th… and I'm gonna say exactly what's on my mind all the time.

Why wrestling is better now:

First of all, I don't watch it now. But there's two reasons why wrestling is better now than then. Number one, we didn't have iPhones back then, so, you know, that Google Maps? I really love my Google Maps. Before, I couldn't find my ass with two hands. Now I don't have to worry about "turn left, stupid." The other one is I really didn't like when I wrestled, that all the fans were allowed to smoke cigarettes and whatever, and we had to breathe in all that second-hand smoke. Now almost all the venues are non-smoking. I wish they had been that way when I was breathing in all that smoke.

For more with Lanny Poffo, including his beginnings in the wrestling business, his healthy lifestyle, the man with the orange peepee, whether he would have had a main event shot today as the Genius, if he's appreciative to Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon, stories from the road, becoming an Amazon bestseller, the promoters snubbing Angelo Poffo for a legends battle royal, the Von Erich family, searching for a new place to live, and more, go to and listen to Episode 119, Wrestling with Rhyme. The Shining Wizards Podcast is available on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, AudioBoo, Geek Life Radio, Clutch and Wiggle Entertainment, and the Shining Wizards Network.