WWE OLD SCHOOL – TORONTO 11/10/85

Stranger’s been watching the Network in chronological order because he’s a big, stupid, nerdy mark. He’s been needing to get back into the swing of doing actual reviews and thought this show would be a good place to jump back in. Stranger’s also picked up the habit of referring to himself in the third person. STRANGER’S GETTING VEXATIOUS!

From the Make Believe Gardens in Toronto – November 10, 1985. Your commentators are Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse “The Body” Ventura. Well, thank God for that, at least.

To place this in context, this show is a few days after the Wrestling Classic PPV. It’s been clipped down to about forty eight minutes. Here was the original card for this show, as found on thehistoryofwwe.com, my go to place for….well, the history of WWE:

Jose Luis Rivera vs. Tiger Chung Lee
Tony Parisi vs. Ron Shaw
King Tonga vs. Terry Gibbs
Ivan Putski & Tony Atlas vs. Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart
Andre the Giant & Hillbilly Jim vs. Big John Studd & King Kong Bundy
Cousin Junior vs. Moondog Spot
Dino Bravo vs. Nikolai Volkoff

They ran three shows on that day. My guess is that this one was the C show.

Match #1. Andre the Giant & Hillbilly Jim vs. Big John Studd & King Kong Bundy (with Bobby “The Brain” Heenan).

Brain tells the crowd that he’s Manager of the Year. Hillbilly Jim’s music here is obviously “Don’t Go Messing with a Country Boy” because you can faintly make it out over the banjo music overdub. Jesse even references the song by saying that Studd & Bundy are definitely going to mess with a country boy. I can’t see someone telling Bundy to squeal like a pig and not get eaten in return. Andre and Studd kick it off with Andre grabbing Studd by the throat and taking it to the corner. Andre’s butt meets Studd’s knee and now Stuff gets to clubbering. Tag to Bundy, who gets some forearms and chops. A Bundy avalanche meets boot, and Bundy tags Studd back in. ANDRE HITS THE BEAR HUG! Studd tries to club his way out, successfully, but Andre slams Studd. Gorilla proclaims Andre $15,000 richer, but Jesse’s not sure that applies here. Bundy tagged in and he gets the FRONT FACELOCK on the mat. Andre manages to tag Jim, who holds Bundy for a chop from Andre. Jim with some rights, backing Bundy to his corner. Lock up and to the corner, where Bundy hits some solid forearms. Jim reverses a whip to the opposite corner, but his boot. Bundy misses and elbowdrop, and Jim makes a wish with a boot to the midsection. Studd tagged in, and he takes over with some clubbing. Whip off the ropes, Jim ducks a clothesline and hits a head butt. Jim with a rear chinlock, and he tags in Andre. Andre clubs Studd with some big rights. Andre turns his back and Studd hits him from behind to take over. Andre down to his knees, Studd tags in Bundy, who lays in the boots. Bundy continues to slug him down, and tags in Studd. Studd with some elbows and forearms. Andre gets a big headbutt in there, and whips him off the ropes and he hits the big boot. Studd rolls out to the floor, Andre goes to the apron to start after him, then Bundy comes in to run interference on Hillbilly Jim, then hits Andre from behind, and Andre is on the apron tied up in the ropes. Studd grabs a ringside table and nails Andre in the head! A second shot to the head with the table! Andre is knocked out on the floor. *1/2

WINNERS: Andre the Giant & Hillbilly Jim by disqualification at 10:35. The match was about what you would expect. You don’t often see Andre the Giant do a sell job like this, as he lay out on the floor for sometime. They take a break and when they come back, Andre is still out on the floor and a stretcher has been brought out. Gorilla leaves the announce table and joins in on the gathering attempting to assist Andre. Jesse proclaims it an awesome display by Studd & Bundy, as the crowd has been brought to silence the longer Andre stays down. They finally wheel Andre out, and this is a sight I have never seen. Good segment there.

Match #2: Cousin Junior vs. Moondog Spot. 

It’s HILLBILLY MADNESS! If this was Alberta, they would be into it. I don’t think Toronto cares for hillbillies. Spot tosses Junior to the mat with a handful of hair. Junior comes back and grabs the arm and LOCKS IT IN! He locks it in so much that Gorilla asks Jesse how things are going with the Body Shop. Junior continues to work the arm. Spot whips Junior off the ropes, Junior hits a shoulder block, runs off the ropes and Spot hits an elbow to take him down. Spot comes down off the middle buckle with a forearm. That gets 2. Second rope again, this time with a fist drop, and Junior kicks out at 2. SPOT HITS THE REAR HEADLOCK! Junior breaks out, but Spot catches him with a backbreaker over the knee coming off the ropes. Spot tosses him through the ropes and onto the entrance ramp. Junior comes in with a sunset flip for 1. Spot with the whip and Junior hits a cross bodyblock for 2. Spot takes him down with an elbow to the head. SPOT HITS THE REAR CHINLOCK! The ref raises the arm twice but not thrice. Junior elbows out, hits a shoulderblock, and gets 2. Spot takes over with ANOTHER REAR CHINLOCK! Junior hits the jawbreaker to get out. Spot takes him down with a knee. He tries a headbutt, but we all know that hillbillies have rocks for brains, and it it’s no sold. Junior with an atomic drop. Spot begs off, but Junior lays in with the kicks. Whip to the corner, and Junior hits a shoulderblock to the midsection. Junior drops his head on a whip, and Spot gets in a kick. Spot whips him off the ropes, but Junior reverses a slam into a small package…1…2…3! **

WINNER: Cousin Junior at 10:29. I believe Moondog Spot carried this match to something rather watchable. Kudos to him. Junior is spent on the outside. Gorilla: “Doesn’t look like much of a winner, does he Jess?”. Ventura: ” He NEVER looks like a winner.”

Match #3: Dino Bravo (c) vs. Nikolai Volkoff for the CANADIAN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.

A main event anywhere in the country, but only if that country is Canada. The history of this championship follows thus: a few months before this show, Vince bought the Montreal-based Lutte Internationale (or International Wrestling, if you’re not cultured). Bravo joined the WWF and was billed as the WWF Canadian Heavyweight Champion on cards promoted in Canada. Bravo would briefly leave the WWF in a dispute over a cancelled show in Montreal where Vince didn’t want Bravo cheered against Hulk Hogan. When Bravo left, they abandoned the title. To the match!

Volkoff sings the Russian national anthem to slightly less boos than in the US. That’s socialism for you. Weird to see Bravo with dark hair after years of the bleached blonde. Volkoff sneak attacks Bravo, but Bravo gets him back in the corner, then hits him with a dropkick coming off the ropes. Volkoff goes low and then pounds away. He rolls Bravo into a 2 count. Volkoff HITS THE CHINLOCK! Bravo attempts to power out, but Volkoff takes him back down. The ref calls for a break due to Volkoff pulling the hair. Bravo wrings the arm, but Volkoff goes to the eyes. Into the corner, but a charge misses. Bravo WRINGS THE ARM! Bravo takes him down and knees the arm. Volkoff pushes him into the ropes and hammers away. In the corner now, Volkoff BITES THE HEAD! Knees in the corner take Bravo down. Whip to the corner, but Volkoff misses a charge and Bravo boots the midesction. Bravo with a whip, and hits him low. Volkoff with a low blow to put Bravo down. Volkoff HITS THE BEAR HUG! Then into an inverted atomic drop. Volkoff off the middle buckle with an axhandle to the back. Volkoff climbs the buckle again, and hits another axhandle to the back. Off the ropes with a clotheline for 2. Whip by Volkoff, Bravo goes under, then over with a leapfrog and hits a sunset flip for 2. Bravo comes back with rights and an atomic drop, but he misses a legdrop. Volkoff with a backbreaker, but Bravo’s foot is in the ropes to break up the pin. Back suplex for a 1….2….3! But wait, both men’s shoulders were down, and Bravo got his shoulder up before the 3! *1/2

WINNER: And STILL YOUR Canadian Heavyweight Champion, Dino Bravo at 8:11. Bravo got his ass kicked by Volkoff and did not show much offense of any varying degree. Volkoff did most of the work, and that’s bad news for this match.

THE POST-GAME REPORT: This show sucked. Seeing Andre the Giant getting stretchered out of the arena was a pretty cool visual, as you did not see that happen much. That was probably the highlight of this show. We had hillbillies and fake Canadian titles all over the place. At least in 1985, you could still get a Tim Horton’s coffee without it smelling like a Whopper.

WWE Old School – The Spectrum – 3/25/78

I was going to review the 6/27/77 MSG Old School, but…well…..let’s just say that it was over two hours long and featured Ivan Putski and Baron Von Raschke going at it for thirty minutes. “Going at it” is up for interpretation because they sure weren’t wrestling.

 Vince McMahon & Dick Graham provide the commentary.

Match #1: Bob Backlund (c) (w/ Arnold Skaaland) vs. Spiros Arion for the WWWF Heavyweight Championship.

Backlund is a month removed from beating Superstar Billy Graham for the title here. Backlund offers his hand, but Arion backs away. Lock up to start and Backlund shoves Arion into the ropes in a surprise show of strength. Waist lock for Arion, reversed by Backlund and Arion makes the ropes for the break. Another go-behind for Backlund and Arion makes the ropes again but Backlund lifts Arion out and brings him back to the middle. Backlund quickly reverses another waistlock and turns it into a pin attempt for the one count. Another bridge pin attempt for Backlund for a two. Arion gets a side headlock but Backlund breaks the hold by lifting Arion a few times. Backslide by Backlund gets two. Backlund takes Arion down but they’re in the ropes. Arion gets a couple of chokes in on the mat. A body slam for Arion, but a second one gets turned into a small package for Backlund that gets two. Arion bails to the floor to regroup. Arion gets a wristlock but Backlund slips out. Arion backs up to the corner, but Backlund calls him out to the middle. A kick is caught by Backlund and he drops Arion to the mat. Backlund tries a leg takedown, but Arion rakes the eyes to get out. Backlund gets a sunset flip off the ropes for a two. Backlund catches another kick, drops Arion and legdrops the leg and gets an ankle lock and starts stretching Arion’s leg on the mat. Arion makes the ropes, the ref wants a break, but Backlund kicks the leg before letting go. The turnbuckle pad is off in the corner, and Arion rams Backlund’s head twice into the exposed buckle. The ref is debating with Arion as to whether or not there was a kick to the nuts there. Arion kicks Backlund to the floor. Backlund attempts to get back in, and Arion brings him in off the apron into a gutwrench rib breaker. Backlund comes back with mule kick out of the corner, but Arion takes control. He gets the over-the-shoulder backbreak on Backlund, who tries to get the backslide for a reversal but loses it. Backlund rams Arion’s head to the exposed buckle. Backlund hits the pildriver. YES! Arion kicks out at two. Backlund goes for the atomic drop but Arion’s foot hits the referee who hits the floor. Backlund leans out to check on the ref, and Arion attacks from behind. Now the two start with the fists as it breaks down. Other wrestlers come down to break this up and separate the two. The referee is being carted away on a stretcher. Backlund and Arion keep going at it, but they’re separated again. ***1/2

WINNER: Nobody. Official decision is a Double DQ. Backlund was a breath of fresh air during this period. He had speed and agility, but could also brawl. As for this match, it was surprisingly good. It was never dull at any point. The non-finish would lead to rematch at the next Spectrum show, and this was a good way to kick off a feud.

Match #2: Bruno Sammartino (w/ Arnold Skaaland) vs. Ken Patera.

Patera attacks from behind before the introductions! The ref calls for the bell, and we’re under way. Stomps from Patera, followed by a body slam. More stomping from Patera. Bruno comes back with a kick to the gut. Patera leap frogs over Bruno coming off the ropes but Bruno stops and picks him up for a slam. A series of arm drags and Patera bails to the floor. Back in the ring, Patera stalls on a lockup. Out of the corner, Patera kicks Bruno and puts him down. Patera misses a knee drop and Bruno goes to work on the leg and gets a half-crab. Patera gets out, slugs away and backs Bruno to the corner. Patera whips him to the opposite corner and gets a slam on the rebound. Patera misses an elbow drop and bails again. Back in, Bruno gets a side headlock. Patera shoves him off the ropes and gets a high knee to put Bruno down. Patera tries for the full nelson, but Bruno drops him on the turnbuckle. Bruno now chokes Patera on the bottom rope. Head to the buckle, then off the ropes for a kick to the gut. Bruno hits the rear chinlock. Now Bruno gets his own full nelson, but Patera makes the ropes for the break. Patera takes a walk outside. Back in the ring, Bruno is a HOUSE AFIRE with the rights. A kick puts Patera down for two. Bruno hits the front facelock on the mat. Patera powers out and drops Bruno in the corner and slugs him down. Off the ropes and Patera gets the bear hug! Patera turns the bear hug into a pin attempt for two. Bruno tries to headbutt out, successfully. Bruno kicks Patera down, and is now selling the back from the bear hug. Bruno with a kick, then a knee to the head. Patera is down, and Bruno gets in another kick. Patera comes back with kicks of his own and Bruno is down. Patera gets in a couple of chokes, with Bruno hanging out of the ring. Patera brings Bruno back in the middle for the bear hug. Bruno tries to get the arms inside to break the hold, and judo flips Patera to break it. Bruno gets a bear hug of his own, but Patera rakes the face to break it. Patera hits the floor again. Patera pulls Bruno out, but Bruno shoves Patera to the post. Back in the ring, the two go back and forth with rights. They head out to the floor again, and Bruno gets Patera with a chair. The bell rings, but the two continue brawling outside. Back in the ring, they make like they are going to continue brawling, but Patera fakes him out and splits. **

WINNER: Nobody. Official decision is a double countout, or a draw per Gary Cappetta. This match had a lot of back and forth for both guys. This was mostly a kick and punch fest with some bear hugs thrown in. It broke down into a nice brawl at the end, but this was not as good as the first match. Bruno would hit the commentary booth not long after this, and wrestle part time.

Match #3: Haystacks Calhoun vs. Nikolai Volkoff. 

Haystacks is a fat hillbilly a la Uncle Elmer, and Volkoff is billed as being from Mongolia. Volkoff actually pushes Calhoun into the ropes and slugs and knees him down. Calhoun comes back with some forearms. Whip into the ropes and a Volkoff shoulder block fails to move the fat guy. Waistlock attempt by Calhoun, and Volkoff makes the ropes. Volkoff takes over with slugging and headbutts. Calhoun shoves him into the corner and starts with the fat guy corner splashes. Volkoff reverses it and continues to slug and knee away. Volkoff misses a corner charge and hits the mat, and Calhoun gets the big fat guy splash for the 1…2…3. 1/2*

WINNER: Haystacks Calhoun. The fat hillbilly wrestler stereotype applies here. Volkoff tried his best with what he had, which wasn’t much. Vince, Jr.’s love for hillbillies was inherited from Vince, Sr. apparently.

THE POST-GAME OPINION: This episode of Old School was an improvement over that piece of crud from ’77. The Backlund-Arion match was a surprise, and I have quickly turned into a fan of Backlund in this era. Bruno’s full time career was winding down at this point, although he still had some big matches left in him. Ken Patera was one of the top heels that this company had until well into the early 80’s, although personally I’m not a fan. Finally, not all hillbillies were into dancing and getting down. Some of them were just about the backstage buffet.
Thanks for reading, and watch for the next ECW review coming in a day or two.

WWE Old School – Madison Square Garden – March 17, 1975

Thought I would try something different. This is the earliest footage on the Network as far as cards go. “Hey, Stranger, that stuff is too old. Most of us weren’t even born when this show happened, and we’re not interested.” SHUT UP! Read it, or GET OFF MY LAWN!

Match #1: Indian Jay Strongbow vs. Paul “Butcher” Vachon.

Our first politically incorrect sighting is the billing of the Chief as “Indian” Jay Strongbow. We start the match with a criss-cross, then Strongbow with some trash-talking. Vachon doesn’t want to lock up, as Strongbow is too much Indian for him, I guess. Finally, they lock up and trade chops. Now the crowd starts to “whoop” like Indians. Strongbow puts Vachon on his ass with a strong chop to the chest. Vachon with a kick to the gut, and a right hand puts Strongbow down. Vachon cinches in the nerve pinch. The crowd rallies behind Strongbow with more whoops. Strongbow powers out and slams Vachon a couple of times. Cover for the one as Vachon gets the ropes. Vachon gets a rear headlock that is bordering on a choke, then Vachon takes him to the corner. Vachon bites the back, then rakes the back. Strongbow trying to rally, he gets kneelifts aplenty, but meets Vachon’s boot in the corner. Vachon kicks him down and gets the 2, as he picks him up. Whip off the ropes, and Strongbow hits the Thesz Press and gets what I would call HOLYCRAPTHATTHREEWASFAST! *

WINNER: INDIAN Jay Strongbow. It’s 1975, what do you expect? Punch-kick-chop offense, with biting and raking thrown in, sprinkled with whoops and raindancing and ugly tights. Did it kill me? NO! I’m still here.

Match #2: Bruno Sammartino (w/ Arnold Skaaland) (c) vs. Spiros Arion (w/ Freddie Blassie) for the WWWF Heavyweight Championship in a Texas Death Match.

The ring announcer declares Blassie and Arion as “two great guys”, but Blassie gets a massive heel reaction from the crowd. In fact, the ring announcer thinks all of these guys are great. A ring announcer with a personality? Take notes Justin Roberts, you stupid mannequin. As was the custom back then, the managers are not permitted at ringside during the match. While the referee is patting down Bruno, Arion attacks! Right hand puts Bruno down, and now Arion gets in some stomps. Bruno comes back with rights and kicks, off the ropes, kick puts Arion down. A slam from Bruno gets 2. Bruno rams Arion into the corner a few times, then slaps on the bearhug. *sigh* Thankfully, Arion rakes the eyes to break the hold. Arion whips Bruno into the buckles hard, and Bruno is down. Arion continues with the stomping. Bruno on the ropes now, and Arion gets in some punches to the back. Stiff uppercut puts Bruno down for 2. Bruno comes back with some knees to the head. Bruno takes control with some rights, and Arion gets dropped to the floor. Bruno rams Arion’s head to the apron. Arion back in the ring now, and regains control. Low blow on a stomp draws boos from the crowd. Arion continues to kick Bruno while he’s down. Arion gets a slam for a 2 count. Bruno comes back again with a headlock and some rights. Arion is knocked to the floor again. Arion finally gets back in the ring after a minute or so, but Bruno continues to take it to him. A big boot puts Arion down. The crowd is hot for Bruno. Bruno slaps on the Camel Clutch, or maybe the Cannoli Clutch in this case. Both men are to their feet and slugging it out. Arion’s entire offense appears to be punch, kick, stomp, repeat. Wait a minute, Arion goes for an abdominal stretch but Bruno hip tosses out of it, and then slams him a couple of times. Bruno slams Arion again, and the referee counts 1…2…3! Arion’s foot was on the rope! *1/2

WINNER: And STILL WWWF Heavyweight Champion, Bruno Sammartino. Replay shows that yes, the referee missed Arions’ foot on the rope. I’ll bet they’ll have a rematch at Payback in June! It’s 1975, what did you expect? Bruno wasn’t flashy, but he always got the crowd into it. Arion was not good with a basic offense of punches and stomps. Vince was on commentary here and he stated that Texas Death meant no holds barred, but there wasn’t much here to see. Disappointing, even by this era’s standards.

(Note: a check of thehistoryofwwe.com shows that they would have rematch at the next MSG show in a Greek Death Match. I’m sure some feta cheese was involved.)

Match #3: Victor Rivera vs. Killer Kowalski (w/ The Grand Wizard).

The ring announcer states that The Grand Wizard needs no introduction, but introduces him anyway. Lock up and to the ropes and Kowalski…breaks clean? A second lock up, but this time Killer slaps Rivera. Then the tape cuts foward to Kowalski working on Rivera’s leg on the mat. A double sledge from Killer misses, and Rivera slaps on the arm lock. Killer manages to roll to the ropes to force a break. Killer goes to work on the leg again. Rivera attempts to come back, but Killer kicks him down. He’s basically applying a claw hold on the calf. Rivera comes back and puts on a wrist lock and takes Killer down with it. Now they trade punches, which Rivera gets the better of, until Killer takes him down again. APPLY THAT CLAW, KOWALSKI! A right hand from Rivera backs Killer off, but AGAIN, he takes Rivera down. Rivera takes Killer by the ears and backs him to the corner. Oh shit, now Killer claws the stomach. Rivera comes back with rights and whips Killer to the corner. A dropkick puts Killer down. Rivera punches the shoulder, but Killer takes him down once again. Some kicks to the gut, but Rivera is avoiding all the fucking claws. An uppercut knocks Killer out of his boots. Rivera jumps on Killer’s back with a sleeperhold. Killer makes the ropes for the break. Killer with a sledge to the back, but Rivera comes back and ties Killer up in the ropes, and he gets to punchin’. Rivera dives at Kowalski in the ropes. The referee helps undo Killer, but Rivera meets him with a right. Now they trade blows, which Rivera wins. But Kowalski bites the head, Rivera bites him back, but Killer bites again, and the referee calls for the bell! 1/2*

WINNER: By disqualification, Victor Rivera. It’s 1975, what did you expect? Clawholds, punching, biting, overselling, and fifteen minutes of that for a DQ finish. I watched the whole thing, and I did not die. I’m still here!

Match #4: Ivan Putski vs. The Wolfman.

The Wolfman is dressed more like a caveman. The ring announcer proclaims “Ladies and gentlemen, here is a classic”. The Wolfman is billed as being from the Wilds of the Canadian Yukon. I’m not from that part of Canada, but I hear strange things happen in them woods. Putski’s MSG debut here, apparently. He’s with a full beard here, ahead of his time. Headlock for Putski, and some rights. Shoulderblocks off the ropes, and the crowd loves the guy. Lock up, and a right for Wolfie. Wolfman tries a choke, but Putski breaks it and headbutts Wolfie down. Wolfman gouges and bites the back of Putski. Wolfie tries it again, but this time Putski counters with biting of his own. Bearhug attempt for Wolfman, which turns into a front facelock for Putski. Double sledge to the back for Putski. Wolfman counters with some biting. Wolfie gouges the face, which fires up Putski who whips him off the ropes and catches him a bearhug. Wolfman gives up! 1/2*

WINNER: Ivan Putski. After the match, he grabs a beer from ringside and shouts POLISH POWER and chugs it! That’s how you win fans. It’s 1975, what did you expect? Biting, gouging, bearhugs and another match that I lived through.

THE POST-GAME OPINION: You know how some classic rock from the 70’s can still stand up today? Well, wrestling is not like that at all. You have to be some nostalgic to appreciate this. The crowds had fun at these shows, showing that some of these guys had charisma, like Sammartino and Putski. It was a different time, and there wasn’t anything groundbreaking here. You younger guys who grew up in the Attitude Era or later would not be able to sit through this. Hell, the same probably holds for a lot of us older fans as well. We’ve just been reconditioned to follow a certain formula. Thanks for reading, now pull up your pants, you punk.

Random Old School Wrestling Questions…

Hey Scott,

I have a couple of questions for you and they both kinda/sorta involve Christmas shows:

1) I remember hearing a while ago about how Dusty wanted to put the NWA Title on Rick Steiner at Starrcade '88. I didn't think anything of it and thought it was a joke. So last night I was watching one of the August 1988 episodes of World Championship Wrestling via Classics on Demand and saw Rick in a few segments. One thing led to another and I found a few other places online that noted Dusty did in fact want to put the title on Rick. Now I have to ask, what was the thought process behind this? Did Dusty really think that would be a good idea? Also, with Flair/Luger as the main event and definitely a big time match, how could Steiner have even won the belt? Would they have called an audible and not gone through with Flair/Luger?

2) I'm listening to Stone Cold Steve Austin's podcast with Jim Cornette and Cornette was talking about how Christmas used to be a huge time period for wrestling in the territory days. Now it seems like it's a wrestling dead period as WWE is just killing time until the Royal Rumble/WrestleMania season. And to me, WWE's approach makes sense since general television viewership declines after Thanksgiving which is why most TV shows try to wrap up their seasons by the first week of December. I also remember hearing an interview with Eric Bischoff where when he first took over WCW, he placed the emphasis on SuperBrawl, not Starrcade, because he thought December pay-per-views were a hard draw. Why was this different in the territory days? Even though the territories didn't make the money off TV that WWE does now or even WCW did in the 90's, TV was the main catalyst for the territorial live events which were their main source of revenue.

Cheers,
Pete

1)  It wasn't so much Dusty thinking it was a good idea as much as it was him throwing a giant hissy fit at Ric Flair and trying to destroy him.  I think they were gonna do some kind of injury angle to hotshot Steiner in there, but either way it was just a ridiculous power play by Dusty to try and show Flair who was boss.  
2)  It used to be different BECAUSE Christmas was such a dead time.  There was no competition and people were hanging around the house and looking for stuff to do.  No idea why they can't capitalize on that these days, actually.  

Vance Middle School and Ricky Morton

Vance Middle School  is where my sons went to middle school, and I can tell you, their gymnasium is more ghetto than your regular school gymnasium. The showers don’t always work unless you love cold showers, which ought to make for a fun experience for the TNA wrestlers once their match is over and they’re looking forward to a nice, hot shower. So if you really need a sign on how low TNA has sunk, here you go: they’re reduced to working in a outdated-by-30-years middle school gym with no working showers.
 
You might be interested in knowing that Ricky Morton himself lives in this area and works for Beau James’ Southern States Wrestling, and it’s quite the sight to see a 60-year Ricky barely being able to walk and with that ’80s mullet now pretty much half gray and half dingy yellow rather than blonde. Saw him at a local Food City once taking out every nickel and quarter he had in his pocket to be able to buy a pick of cigarettes.
 
 

And yet they haven’t brought in the Rock n Roll Express yet.  They can pay Ricky at LEAST smoke money.  

Fwd: old school wrestling tv shows

Hey Scott,
After reading about the crap of the pre-raw WWF tv tapings, what aspects would you bring back from the 1980s/early 1990s WWF/NWA TV shows? I always liked the weekly interview segments like the Brother Love Show and the pre-match promos that were in the corner of the TV because you can explain reasons for a feud in a few minutes not twenty. I also liked that the big stars especially Hulk Hogan were not wrestling on TV every week which made it very special when they did wrestle.
Thanks,
David

I have always considered NWA's weekly TBS show to be the perfect template of exactly what I want in a TV show.  Recap of a big angle to start, promo, squash, promo, squash, promo, Midnight Express, promo, hype upcoming big show, done.  Memphis was also much the same.  Early Monday Night RAW was probably #2.  I'd like to see more off-the-cuff promos, where someone wins a big match and then just talks themselves up or calls someone out.  Kind of like what UFC fighters do now, hmm?  

UFC 146 – Old School Awesome

Holy cow, tonight's UFC was old school heavyweight beatdowns in the kind of way that people have seemingly been clamoring for in a while.  It was the all-heavyweight show, and 4 of the 5 main card fights ended in relatively quick knockouts, including Cain Velasquez beating the ever-loving FUCK out of Bigfoot Silva and splattering his blood all over the ring, and JDS kicking Frank Mir's ass and knocking him the fuck out.  Plus Roy Nelson's cartoonish knockout of Dave Herman will probably make best-of DVDs for a while.  Obviously not a great technical show, but for a "Get wasted with friends and watch guys kick the shit out of each other" show, this one was hard to beat.  Thumbs up!

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it. 

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it. 

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it. 

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it. 

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it.