PTBN Reaction Show: ROH Best In the World 2015…and more

Will and Dylan Hales (Wrestling Culture) discuss the latest PPV offering from ROH. We discuss the character work of Dalton Castle, the awesome year from Roderick Strong, the questionable booking of Moose and the advantages and disadvantages of making Jay Lethal your top title holder. We also discuss our disappointment in the tag title match. Where does Jay Briscoe go from here? All this and more!

PTBN Reaction Show: ROH Best In the World 2015

Also from this week…

In our What If series, we discussed potential King of the Ring winners in year that no PPV tournament occurred: PTBN’s Wrestling What If… King of the Ring Winners

In our Rewind podcast series, we revisited King of the Ring 1994: Place to Be Network Rewind Series: WWF King of the Ring 1994

Kevin Kelly was joined by Dr. Tom Prichard to pay tribute to the late, great Dusty Rhodes: The Kevin Kelly Show Episode 37 – A Tribute to the American Dream

BB16 – Christine Crowd Reaction

Hi Scott,

What in the world was that reaction?  That had to be the worst exit reaction we have ever seen on the show – surpassing even the racists from last season!  Does America find flirting while married to be more despicable than racist jokes and comments?

Were you as shocked to this reaction as I was? It caught me completely off-guard.

​Now that I've actually seen the episode…
I was pretty shocked because I know the feedsters really hate Christine but didn't think it was gonna be some Hester Prynne-level slut-shaming stuff.  Maybe the audience was really into the sanctity of marriage?  
Also, worst double-elimination episode ever. So boring.
Also, Victoria for the win, just because it would be HILARIOUS.  ​

Hall Fundraiser – Your reaction

Hi Scott,

What are your feelings on the fans funding Scott Hall's hip replacement, etc?

I get that they want the guy to see that people care about him, but I find it wrong that they are asking fans (many likely economically challenged) to pitch in and help a guy who was a millionaire AND has superstar buddies that could easily front the $80,000. His friends could have helped with the bill and fans could have still shown Hall support and encouragement through Twitter. I don't know, it just feels wrong that Nash, Michaels, DDP, or even HHH could have helped him with the medical bills but didn't and the fans had to step in. C.M. Punk was nice enough to help out Joey Mercury when he needed it–it kept private until his dvd.. What are your thoughts on this one?

Best,  Anthony Viggiani, NY, NY

Yeah, kind of weird that Hall hangs with millionaires, like people with literally too much money to spend in one lifetime, but has to resort to this for his operation.  Maybe it's part of DDP's plan to make him appreciate his life or something?  Plus it feels like he hasn't really earned another chance yet.  The sad thing is that Hall has an awesome mind for the business, and could probably be a huge asset to the writing geeks in WWE if HHH brought him in as an agent or producer or whatever they call it now.  Ditto for Jake Roberts, and hopefully that's the path he ends up going down if DDP really can set the ship straight with him. 

Lesnar/Goldberg Reaction at this Year’s Mania

Hey Scott,

So I was thinking about the upcoming Mania card: is there a good chance that WWE is gonna have to deal with a "Lesnar/Goldberg at Mania 20" type reaction during the main event?
First off, we all know that the typical Mania crowd is as smarky, pro-bad-guys as it gets. Then put that into NEW YORK CITY (well, Jersey, but same crowd) and you've got a perfect storm of bizzarro crowd.
Now look at the undercard, which seems almost designed to piss that crowd off. It's pretty much a lock that Punk and Lesnar are doing jobs, one of which to Triple H of all people. Those are not gonna go over well. Throw in the fact that Ziggler, Jericho, and Bryan are all currently not even booked on the show, and so one would assume that even if they did get on in would be in some short throwaway match that doesn't allow them to do much of anything. (Except probably job.) So again, that's not gonna make the live crowd happy. THEN throw in what is sure to be a heatless Del Rio vs Swagger match (seriously, the live crowds have been absolutely dead for everything involving these two the last few weeks.) that will probably end up getting a fair amount of time.

Add all that up, throw in a 20-minute musical interlude by some unknown emo-rappers (WWE's music genre of choice), and by the time that main event comes around one could see the live crowd being in a bit of a pissy mood. ESPECIALLY when they all know they're about to sit through SuperCena winning the title again. At that point, who knows what the reaction is gonna be. I suspect that the crowd will be significantly less in love with The Rock this year than last, which could lead to A) An overall muted reaction from the crowd, ala Triple H vs Orton at Mania 25, or B) All out "same old shit" and "boring" type angry chanting.

So what say you and the Doomers? Am I overstating how much the smarky NYC/Mania crowd is gonna react to seeing their favorites get the shaft all night? Do you think WWE is anticipating this at all, and might counteract it with some alternative booking? (Lesnar or Punk actually going over, or Cena turning heel?) Very curious.
-Worst in the World

I think you're overstating the smarkiness.  I think the RAW afterwards, like last year, is going to be smark overload, but Wrestlemania is generally more of a casual crowd.  I think if anything it'll be more of a HHH-Orton situation where an unexpected great match is going to burn out the crowd and the main event will be dead rather than nuclear heat.