The “Nonratable” Match Rating I think needs to be implemented

Good afternoon Mr. Keith, all this Mankind/UT HIAC talk and the earlier post of the Iron Man Match, have you ever thought its time to officially break out a whole new rating, beyond the Stars?  

"Match Rating: Unable to Rate due to both historical significance and No Current Consensus by the IWC of its proper star rating, w


ether it would be underated, or overated, by many.  But still, NEEDS to be


seen by all!"

While someone disagreed about Savage/Steamboat earlier, that opinion I feel is such a minority I don't think it warrants inclusion in this subject.  Matches I do however have forever divided match raters since they took place, are:

Bret/Michaels Iron Man
UT/Mankind HITC
Bash at The Beach 96 Main Event
Hogan/The Rock
And you might even be able to throw in the WM20 Main Event, at what was considered one of the greatest matches of all time followed by one of the greatest moments of all time with Benoit & Eddie standing tall, it has forever become one of the most polarizing matches to look back on.

Thoughts?  Keep up the good work

​That's a pretty wishy-washy way to deal with the issue.  I'd rather just throw my star ratings out there and let people debate it on their own.  Unless it's a midget match or a battle royale, because FUCK THEM.  ​

HHH needs to stop putting people over (also, the letter B)

So I was going to say that HHH probably should stop putting people over given it seems like more of a curse than a blessing in the long run…

Bryan – injured, might be career-ending

Batista – left early, never the same
Benjamin – nowhere
Benoit – …

Then I realized…forget all about that.  *All of these guys wrestling last names start with the letter B*.  Is it possible that only people with a B+ last name are under the HHH curse?

Have I blown the lid off of this conspiracy?


​So wait, when he's referring to Bryan as a "B+ player", it's really secret code for "I'm going to put you over and thus destroy your career in the long run"?  
MIND BLOWN.  Someone needs to make a Buzzfeed list about this right now!  ​

Bobby Fulton of the Fantastics is going blind and needs some help.

Hi Scott,
I came across this on Bobby Fulton earlier today accidentally. It doesn't seems to be getting much press. I thought I would pass it along to you.
Here is the link:
Thank you and keep up the great work on the Blog. It's a daily visit for me.

Yeah, I had read about it before, and it's a real sad thing.  Hope this helps him out.  

Topless Robot: WWE Needs Heels

Topless Robot posted an interesting essay:

He acknowledges that Orton is not the ideal choice for lead heel… and then argues that there are no other options.

Topless Robot is still a thing?  I thought it vanished in a puff of smoke when Rob Bricken left.  
There's lots of choices, although "top guy" is tough to pull off because they've neutered everyone in general.  But you've got Sheamus (HHH's real life project and gym buddy) who can turn corporate heel, Dean Ambrose in the wings, Del Rio can always be rebuilt again…there's some choices.  Not ideal ones, but it's the brand that draws now anyway.  

Because someone needs to send it…

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Elliot 

Ultimate Warrior returns as the WWE 2K14 pre-order bonus (Official)

I think we've realized by now (Bret, Bruno, etc….) that you can never say never, but any thoughts on seeing Hellwig do business with WWE again? Any place for him to pop up as a Legend, or do you think the drawbacks would outweigh the benefits?

He's not technically doing business with WWE, just the video game company.  He would likely ask for way too much money and control than a standard Legends deal would afford,and I don't see him being worth more than a few nostalgia appearances and the game deal.  
Funny commercial, though.

Michael Bay says The Rock needs to stop wrestling

He has a point. Rock needs to decide which he wants to do- wrestle, or act.  Pick one, and stick with it. 

I hope he just stays of WWE TV for good and goes back to doing crappy-but-profitable movies. I'm beyond sick to death of his tired, worn-out late-90's/early-2000's mad-libs promos and mediocre in-ring work when we could be seeing younger talent being pushed instead of a part-time novelty act. 

Hogan never learned to just bow out gracefully and apparently The Rock can't either. Just go the fuck away, Dwayne and take your tired schtick with you.
Hey now, let's not say something we can't take back.  Rock's return was disappointing, but a disappointing Rock is still better than 90% of the roster.  That being said, if he's tearing muscles off his bones, he shouldn't be wrestling anymore, and he certainly shouldn't be wrestling Brock Lesnar.  So I agree, he should go enjoy his movie career and move on.  

5 Things ROH Needs To Do To Survive

ROH TV from this past week was another Road Rage, mainly featuring the Richards/Steen main event. That’s been covered in detail so instead of a recap, I’d like to throw in some thoughts about what ROH could do to prop up their company. In the state it’s in, they’re turning off established fans, and they aren’t replacing them with new fans in any significant numbers. The Sinclair deal likely saved the company, but it’s not likely that they’ll continue pouring money into Ring of Honor if they don’t see significant returns on their investment. Former ROH loyalists like Austin Aries have gone on record as saying they don’t recognize the company they once loved anymore, while others are getting snapped up by WWE developmental or will only do occasional shows for the company, like El Generico and Homicide. The Kevin Steen saga has built for several years to the point it’s at now, and all that remains to be seen is the aftermath where he “holds ROH hostage” as he’s been threatening to do, but other than that, they don’t have any decent storylines on the boil. So as the BoD’s resident ROH writer, I present my list of ideas to help revitalize Ring of Honor before they lose their way completely.


definitely with you on that. It seems weird to me that in a world where
more and more people consume their movies and TV shows through
web-enabled devices, indie wrestling companies are still wary of
embracing the internet. I don’t know if it’s old-school carny mindset or
just a lack of knowledge over how to do things differently than they’ve
always been done. Everyone has a hard on for the idea of a live show,
so they sign up with iPPV companies that can’t handle the demand. They
want to sell DVDs, so they try to police YouTube for unauthorized video.
They’ll air their TV show on their websites, but only if they already
have a regular syndicated deal with a real TV station and only after
it’s already been aired. Shit, tons of people use Netflix and Hulu plus
for streaming, and all you can stream on there for wrestling is WWE

Why aren’t any of these places creating their own TV specific for the
web? Why haggle for DVDs when you can sell ad-space on a site and
potentially make more than a sluggish DVD sale?  Why fight YouTube when
you can use it to your advantage to spread the word about your product
and use that to build a fanbase BEFORE you start trying to hook them
into spending tons of money on DVDs and live shows? I just think none of
them have thought of it. What little I’ve dealt with indie promoters on
a small scale, I’ve found that most of them just don’t have a keen
business sense or any creative ideas for promotion and basically just
want to try and do things the same way everyone else has, and that isn’t
helping anyone. Indies appeal to niche audiences, and generally niche
products find their audiences on the internet, yet somehow a lot of
these people think they’ll get there by using promoting techniques from
the 60s.”

That was what I posted on the recent “WWE as a Monopoly” thread regarding ROH and other indies. While some of these ideas wouldn’t help ROH, some of it refers to them specifically. Keep all of this in mind as we proceed, because it’s already being implemented in places like Wrestling Retribution Project and they will not be the only ones, mark my words.

1. Let iPPVs Die

–After the problems they’ve had with Go Fight Live regarding the feed cutting out during shows such as Young Wolves Rising and Showdown in the Sun, and then the outright failure to make an iPPV work in-house with Border Wars, ROH is in a shitty place when it comes to their volume of fans. They have just enough people interested in viewing their shows that they’ll crash their regular servers, but they don’t have enough fan base going that they can afford to field a PPV on cable and turn a profit. Rock and a hard place, for sure, but that’s where they are. The easy solution? Don’t do them until you know you can do them right. ROH kept itself alive for years on DVD sales. While that idea has it’s share of dust on it (which I’ll get to), it might be worth it to let a few more shows build up their name on DVD. How many people found means of tracking down Davey Richards vs. Michael Elgin from Showdown through illegal means or on replays, which, divided by Ringside Member discounts and everything else, meant people were paying maybe $10 on average to watch what amounts to one or two matches? With the word of mouth that thing built, how much more money would have been made if anyone who didn’t see it live ended up having to buy the DVD for $20 instead? Granted, you’d lose some people over the price point, but ROH built it’s name on those “must see” matches that people paid a mint for. The only other option with iPPVs is to show them on enough of a delay that they can let them air with a smooth transmission, but that will take time to rehab the impression people have that you pay for iPPVs and then don’t get what you paid for, or a rerun.

2. Fire Delirious

–Hunter “Delirious” Johnston has worked for Ring of Honor continuously from 2004. In August of 2010, he replaced Adam Pearce as head booker. Since that time a number of ROH standouts have parted ways with the company: Tyler Black, Austin Aries, Colt Cabana, Claudio Castagnoli, Chris Hero, Christopher Daniels, and Homicide. As Aries said recently in an interview, ROH has turned into “Smoky Mountain of Wrestling”. Some of the unique characters that made up the company’s lifeblood during their peak years have fallen by the wayside, and in exchange, there are a lot of people who make up the “ROH stereotype”. That is to say, the bland, smallish white guy who cuts stoic promos about competition and has great workrate but no charisma. Basically, a whole promotion of Dean Malenkos. While that’s never been exactly true, it’s not far off. What is Eddie Edwards’ character? What about Michael Elgin? What about Adam Cole, who has a bankable gimmick of the “Panama City Playboy” in other indies but is just a plucky young whitebread face in ROH? For that matter, where do the storylines go? Davey & Eddie feuded for more than a year, teasing a heel turn for Eddie, and they just never delivered. Eddie stayed in exactly the same place doing exactly the same things, until it was blown off in a triple threat match that was already being overshadowed by the Richards/Steen program. It built at an unreasonably slow pace, and then everyone was basically in the same place when it ended as when it began. At Young Wolves Rising, it seemed as though Kyle O’Reilly was turning heel, and yet he’s still Davey’s lil’ buddy and playing the underdog. That’s just not how storytelling works, regardless of anyone’s opinions about wrestlings. There’s no payoff and snail’s pace build to most of their storylines. The last 2 years of ROH programs could fit into maybe 9 months of a reasonable booker’s storylines (or 6 weeks of a Vince Russo show). This is killing the enjoyment of the company. While ROH has always been about great matches, they had storylines that were memorable at their peak as well. This needs to come back, and Delirious apparently just doesn’t have the ability to do it.

3. Get Out of the Baltimore Scene and Onto The Indie Scene At Large

–ROH used to be a place where some of the best workers in the world of independent wrestling would coalesce. To a degree, it still is, but now that they’re centered out of Baltimore and the DuBurns Arena, the job guys and featured local talent on their shows all come from Chesapeake-region indies. While I don’t mean to disrespect anyone’s local scene, that’s not where the cream of the indie crop comes from. ROH used to have a huge advantage being based in Philadelphia: most of the best indie workers in the country center around New York, Philly, Boston, or the short drive down from Ontario. Couple that with the alliance with Full Impact Pro, which provided a nice pipeline for the other main place where indie wrestlers gather, Florida, and ROH had access to the best talent in the world. Now, I’m not advocating moving their operations out of Baltimore again, because that’s where their bread is buttered with Sinclair Broadcasting. I am, however, advocating that ROH does more to encourage the best workers from their old stomping grounds to make the trek down to Maryland and pepper them into the shows more. The alliance with CHIKARA is great, because it keeps that option open for this kind of thing. But why limit yourself to The Colony or Eddie Kingston? You could get tons of mileage out of indie “dream matches” featuring Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano, Mike Quackenbush, or even Sara del Ray (assuming she’s willing to work with them again, since the last time she was working with ROH she got dumped without so much as a word of notice).They’ll be ok with the roster they have now but they can stretch it a lot further if they run different matches every show.

4. Use The Web To Its Full Potential

–This plays in to what I said in that copy & paste above. ROH is actually better about it than most but still, it feels like they’re trying to fit a TV product into an internet format. The iPPVs are an example of that: who cares if you’re seeing it live online? People don’t gather around in groups to watch shows on a computer screen, so it doesn’t really have that “event” feel that needs it to be live. The TV show is available for free online, but it’s in a diminished format: 5 days late if you aren’t a Ringside member and at least 2 days late if you are, depending. ROH is a syndicated program, so they don’t air everywhere. Asking people to pay just to get a few days closer to seeing something that those in Sinclair markets get for free and sooner? That’s just silly. Sell commercials for the online broadcast, and make that a focal point. WWE and TNA still don’t really know how to make the Net work for them, ROH should try to fill that niche. Their whole audience follows wrestling online, like literally 100% of their audience. Make the show more user friendly. Make it available as an app for smartphone users. Make it prevalent on iTunes and other download sites. Try to get a deal for the old DVDs that are out of print (which is a lot of them, as they sold off a lot of their existing stock of DVDs last year) to stream on Netflix. They’re already good about using the YouTube channel to get characters over and feature promos, so keep going in that vein. The trick is to think like a modern media company, and not in the carny mindset of trying to squeeze money out of every situation where eyes might be on your product. It’s 2012, and people are consuming more and more of their entertainment for free as it is. You aren’t going to convince a large number of people to part with their money, especially in tough economic times, without making a product that suits their needs better.

5. Have More Fun


–ROH takes itself too seriously. Always has. Even fun gimmicks like El Generico and, well, Delirious have started as comedy and then made the shift to where they’re basically serious gimmicks. Currently the tag division has the All Night Express, who can get over based on being sex-crazed party boys who can rock in the ring. Instead most of their promos focus on the “we can wrestle all night long!” aspect, and they seem like any other plain as milk babyface team. Certainly some people seem like they’re having fun in promos: Kevin Steen, for sure, and definitely the Briscoes. But it wouldn’t hurt ROH to start bringing more anarchy to their regular show. They’ve long been gimmick-averse when it comes to matches, but why not try it out? Why not have brawls that spill outside like they used to? Why not have comedy matches? Wrestling at it’s best is like a circus: if you don’t like the clowns, the lion tamer is up next. ROH can tend to fall into the rut of being like watching 10 acrobat routines in a row. It wouldn’t hurt them to toss things up more. And cut down on the hour-long matches, for that matter.

In all, these are easy fixes to make. Ring of Honor isn’t going to go out of business tomorrow; but gradually they will lose fans like water draining out of a pool until there isn’t much left to swim in. I’d love to see the company that’s featured the best wrestling in the world for the last decade have what amounts to a “second coming.” Until next week, don’t take my word for it. Go to and decide for yourself.