Shawn Michaels In WCW

Hey Scott, I recently watched one of the Legends Roundtables (on the network!) and they mention that after Michaels and Bret Hart's backstage fight in 1997, there were rumors that after Michaels left the locker room he was going to Boston where WCW was taping 1997 in order to jump ship to them. My question is, why did Bischoff never really go after Shawn as heavily as he did Bret to get him into WCW? At that point Michaels was easily as over as Bret, maybe even more so, plus his buddies were basically running the show there. I've heard some people say that WCW wouldn't have known what to do with him just like they didn't know what to do with Bret, but I find it hard to believe that with as much stroke as Nash had that he would have been buried. Was it a case of Michaels being worried that Hogan would halt any advancement for him there or what?Bischoff couldn't ever officially go after Shawn because he was locked up airtight with the WWF, although apparently at various points in the Bret feud Shawn threw tantrums to Vince trying to get fired and/or released so he could go to WCW with Hall & Nash.  That would have of course been suicide, but Shawn was on a lot of drugs at that point anyway.  Bischoff was smart enough not to tamper with contracts by that point and there was no actual threat of Shawn leaving, as much as he wanted to by 1997.  

September Classics: The British Bulldog vs. Shawn Michaels – One Night Only 9/27/97

I found it very difficult to find One Night Only videos that were intact. This was a very good UK PPV, and I remember watching it live back in Canada, the homeland. Plenty of this thing called “wrestling” on this show. There was a Dude Love vs. Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vader vs. Owen Hart, and The Undertaker vs. Bret Hart. But do you think I could find a complete version of any of those? So I settled for this two-part clip of HBK and the Bulldog. The heat for this match was off the friggin’ charts. Don’t forget to click on “read more” to get the second part. Enjoy.


Shawn Michaels vs. The British Bulldog (9 20 97… by Yosihait



Shawn Michaels vs. The British Bulldog (9 20 97… by Yosihait

September Classics: The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels – Ground Zero 9/7/97

This match received top billing over a WWF Championship match. The first major meeting between two of the top stars of all time. The match may end in a schmozz, but how they got there is the story. This would set up the first-ever Hell in a Cell match the next month. The video is in two parts, so click the Read More link to get the second half.


THE UNDERTAKER VS SHAWN MICHAELS [P1] by ivan2007martinez



THE UNDERTAKER VS SHAWN MICHAELS [P2] by ivan2007martinez

September Classics: Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind – In Your House: Mind Games

So I said the other day that this match has been shown many times. However, it’s hard to deny that it’s a memorable match. Foley was able to keep up with Michaels for thirty minutes. We all know the story of Vince McMahon changing the match on the fly, but it doesn’t really take away form the fact that this match saved what was otherwise a forgettable show.


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Shawn Michaels exaggerated back injury question

Hey Scott,
Every time Shawn's back injury is covered on documentaries, video packages, etc., they always skim over the details of that four years. How could he comeback from a career ending back injury, perform at a high level, and perform some of the craziest bumps at his age?
​Because Jesus, I guess?  Seriously, dude, he had SPINAL FUSION surgery, that wasn't something you can fake for time off, it was legitimate career-ending shit and to this day there's no rational explanation for why he was able to come back and still be able to wrestle at that level.  That's why it's all the more awe-inspiring that he was able to make an entire second career for himself and hold out as long as he did.  ​


August Classics: Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H – SummerSlam ’02

HBK’s comeback match in 2002. At the time, there were certain circles that questioned the purpose of the match, and who it helped. My stance was and is the match kicked ass many times over and who cares. When a ***** match is on display, shut up and enjoy it.


SummerSlam 2002 – Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels… by Maxi_AguayoCopeland

July Classics: Shawn Michaels vs. Jeff Jarrett – In Your House 2

Fire up the Network for this one. I couldn’t find a good copy on the Youtubes or Dailymotion.

Jarrett came in as the Intercontinental Champion, and had just “performed” his hit single “With My Baby Tonight” earlier in the show. HBK was the red hot babyface. Arguably, the best match in 1995.

http://network.wwe.com/video/v31313113/milestone/31331363

MOTD: Mr Perfect vs Shawn Michaels At Stars & Stripes Forever 91

Here’s a Mr. Perfect vs. Shawn Michaels match that’s pretty obscure.

Taped 3/11/91, aired on the Prime Time Wrestling “Road to WrestleMania VII: Stars And Stripes Forever” special on 3/17/91. 

Hennig was on a major roll at this point, no doubt.  Shawn was no slouch himself.  Had the Summerslam 93 match even been this good, people wouldn’t have been so pissed about it, I think. 

Shawn Michaels Mr. WrestleMania DVD set


It's just a compilation of all 17 of his WrestleMania matches. 
I for one am particularly stoked for the Orient Express-Rockers match at WM6 where the Rockers were practically smoking dope on the way to the ring.  Here's hoping for an Akio Sato alternate commmentary!  They sure do love repackaging their previously released matches, though, don't they?

Who gives a shit about Shawn Michaels anymore?

Why the fuck should we give a fuck about Shawn Michaels vs Danial Bryan?

Let's face it. Shawn has become a pathetic joke. He exist SOLELY so Undertaker or anyone who HHH's feuding with, to beat the shit out and in the case of HHH, he's basically a human shield that exists solely so SOMEONE has to get the shit kicked of of them by his opponent, since HHH won't let himself look weak.

He's weak on the mic, has zero character (and hasn't had one in AGES worth a shit) and quite frankly, the idea of him being offered to Danial Bryan as a consolation gift opponent after three months of consistent burial, is a joke.

I'd rather see Bryan get the honor of beating Undertaker (with the added bonus of Undertaker reminding HHH that Undertake has made him his bitch countless years in a row when he publicly tells HHH he won't wrestle HHH again at WM and for him to force HHH to eat shit and let him fight Bryan, who is Undertaker's preferred opponent, with the Undertaker basically BURYING HHH by telling him that HHH is jealous of Bryan because Bryan worked hard to get to the top, whereas HHH had to fuck his way to the top and still the fans fucking hate him and cheered Brock Lenser beating the shit out of him and ruining his big "retirement" moment awhile back).

Bonus points if they stick HHH in the humiliating role of being chained to Kane during the match Jim Cornette style and a situation where HHH his life savings (and Steph's) that Undertaker will beat Bryan and have HHH cry like a bitch over the fact that Bryan did what HHH couldn't do: end the streak. HHH goes away (and we get a couple of filmed vignettes of HHH and Steph living on the streets as homeless scum, with Vince having successfully revoked their parental rights to their kids for extra shits and giggles as far as taking their kids away from them and HHH finding out that everyone remembers him as Rock's bitch boy).

You know what's still awesome?  Superior Spider-Man.  Love me some Dan Slott.

Mr Perfect vs Shawn Michaels At Stars & Stripes Forever 91




So, I know everybody shits on their Summerslam match, but this is a great little TV match as Shawn and Curt try to out-sell each other. It drags a little in the middle, but two ridiculous Shawn bumps and a pretty great ending sequence (if not a great ending) make it well worth watching… and it makes it all the weirder that their Summerslam match wasn’t better. 


Well, to be fair, everyone shits on their Summerslam match because the WWF themselves basically did everything short of literally going on TV and promising a ***** match and it was only **1/2 or so.  But yeah, I’ve seen this match and it was damn good, and they had one on Coliseum Video somewhere that was damn good as well, and to this day I can’t understand why they didn’t click. 

See also:  Rey Mysterio v. Eddie Guerrero at Wrestlemania 21.

Cena vs Michaels



I know WM23 was supposed to be Cena v HHH 2 and fell through. What I don't get is why they went face v face in that instace. I know its been done, but this seems different, without the torch passing of 6 or the inevitability of 17.

I think it was because
a)  The direction was roughly moving towards a Cena v. DX storyline.
2)  They needed someone who people who would buy in the main event of a Wrestlemania.
c)  They wanted a great match.  
Shawn meets all of those criteria.  It remains the highest WM buyrate in history so obviously it worked fine.  

Shawn Michaels match I found


I found this match on youtube between Shawn Michaels and Rad Radford from the Action Zone. I didn't even know that Shawn and Louie had a match against each other that wasn't a two minute squash on Superstars. It's a pretty good match too. Thanks 



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h, Rad Radford, WWE's comment on the grunge fad long after Cobain had already killed himself.  Truly they had their finger on the pulse of America's youth.  

Shawn Michaels last match

Hey Scott!

In your Wrestlemania 26 rant regarding the Michaels/Taker match, you said:

"If this was Shawn’s last match (which it’s not), he went out with
another Wrestlemania classic."

Over three years have passed, and although he's injected himself in
several matches since, he has not actually WRESTLED (err…SPORTS
ENTERTAINED?) another match.  It seems that WWE has plenty of ways to
trot out Michaels whenever it is necessary without having him
technically wrestle in a match, and that seems to be satisfying enough
to both parties.

So are you finally willing to say that Wrestlemania 26 was, indeed,
Shawn Michaels' final match?

Nope, he'll be back.  There'll be a match big enough and enough money dumped on him for one more match at some Wrestlemania.  He's still healthy and marketable and Vince is Vince, so unless his spine was fused again or something like that, I guarantee he'll wrestle again.  

Shawn Michaels – Back Injury Talk

Hi Scott,

LONG time reader and Blog of Doomer here–having a solitude Saturday night (and not choosing UFC), so I decided to rewatch WrestleMania 14 with Stone Cold vs. Michaels. I had a question though for you–In your opinion, was Michaels in as bad as shape as everyone had us believe? I know from his book he states he injured himself at the Rumble and then pilled himself up for the match, but there are so many things that contradict that. 1) He's roided to the max and in great shape. If he was having back issues (which I have had with surgery btw), there is no way he should be looking that fit or touching a barbelle.  2) He starts the match absolutely limber and taking great bumps–no sign of a "back of doom." It's only after a conspicuous railing shot outside that he begins to properly sell how his bad back–(it was amazing selling anyway; in 1998, I believed the awful pain on his face)  3) He made it very well known at the time that he was not happy being pushed aside for Mr. Austin (yes, he states otherwise now). 
Anyway, do you think he just sold his injured back as "career ending" just to let the cards fall and let Austin hang himself (and then come to the rescue if he failed?). He wasn't a saint at the time, so I don't put it past him.  I look forward to your thoughts, as always.

Shawn was of course full of shit on a lot of stuff, but that back injury was pretty much as close to a real life miracle as you're going to get.  By all accounts, Shawn was in constant pain from his retirement all the way until about 2001, including his one "comeback" match in his TWA promotion where he worked a smoke and mirrors match against Paul Diamond and didn't take any bumps.  This would be one of the few times where I 100% believe Shawn was telling the truth, or was at least the most convincing liar in history.  

The SmarK DVD Rant for Superstar Collection: Shawn Michaels

The SmarK DVD Rant for Superstar Collection: Shawn Michaels Yup, another 90 minute special from the WWE DVD library. But for the price, you can’t argue. Especially with the content here… Chris Jericho v. Shawn Michaels From Judgment Day 2008. I guess this is non-title. Shawn teases the leg injury to start and they go right into a pinfall reversal sequence to trade some near-falls, then fight for the backslide before reversing each others’ bodypress attempt to put Jericho on top for two. Shawn with the inverted figure-four, but Jericho makes the ropes. Jericho goes for the leg, so Shawn bitchslaps him and now it’s on. Shawn starts acting all heelish by hiding in the corner to hide, then grabs the headlock, so Jericho elbows out and stomps him in the corner. Shawn, however, grabs the arm and holds an armbar while hanging upside-down, then takes him down with a nasty armbreaker. Oh, I like these matches where it’s face v. face and it starts getting all nasty and mean because they want to win so much. THAT’S wrestling! Jericho sends Shawn into the corner with a Flair Flip and stomps him down, but can’t get a superplex. Shawn sets up on top, but Jericho tries his suplex again and Shawn blocks with a front suplex, then follows with the flying elbow…which hits the knee. OUCH. Now that’s unique! Normally you just move to escape that, not put the knees up. Jericho starts working on the ribs and gets a backdrop suplex, leading to the abdominal stretch. Gorilla is up there bitching about it now, I bet. If Jericho is haunted by a mysterious voice telling him to hook that other leg, that’s why. Gutbuster gets two. Shawn gets sent into the corners, but Shawn blocks the bulldog attempt by sending him into the ropes and comes back with chops. Flying forearm, but the kip-up hurts the ribs, so Jericho POUNCES with the Walls of Jericho. Shawn makes the ropes, however, so Jericho stomps him down and follows to the apron…where he walks into a superkick. Oh, snap! Jericho’s ramrod-stiff sell to the floor was a thing of beauty. Shawn doesn’t want the countout and drags Jericho back into the ring, where he gets two. Shawn follows with the flying elbow, but they’re BOTH hurt by it. This sets up the superkick, but Jericho collapses twice to mess up Shawn’s timing. And indeed, he was faking, as Shawn gets fed up and moves in…right into the Codebreaker. Awesome. That gets two. Shawn reverses a suplex into the crossface (what is WITH that move on WWE PPV lately?) and Jericho WANTS to tap, but ends up grabbing the ropes instead. Another try is reversed by Jericho into the suplex he originally wanted, and he drops Shawn on the top rope to set up the Lionsault, but Shawn puts up the knees…which is what Jericho wanted! He hooks the Walls, but Shawn reverses to the pin at 15:54. Now this is more like it, a masterpiece of two guys being total pricks to each other in the name of WINNING. Jericho offers a handshake and if someone turns on the other I’m adding another 1/4*. Both guys flinch, but no turn is evident. Darn. ****1/4 Of course the turn would come a little later, leading to an even better ladder match between them. Why they didn’t include that one here, I do not know, unless it’s because Shawn won here and lost there. D-Generation X v. Cody Rhodes & Ted Dibiase This is the semi-main event of Summerslam 2009. I had the unfortunate honor of being at the RAW in Calgary where Shawn made his “return” in a series of vignettes as a short-order cook who superkicks a little girl to pay the whole thing off. DX literally rides a tank into the arena, preceded by the military, or least guys dressed like them. HHH and Dibiase fight over a headlock in the corner and slug it out, which of course HHH wins. Cole makes an offhand remark about how HHH won the World title at Summerslam there in Los Angeles one year. I have no idea what he’d be referring to there, since he never won either version of the World title at Summerslam or even in Los Angeles at any point. Suplex and kneedrop gets two. Over to Shawn and he disrespects Cody, prompting Legacy to regroup outside. Back in, Cody tries the sneak attack and gets foiled, but Dibiase manages to get the heat on Shawn with the Flair Flip in the corner. Funny how poor Shawn is always the one who has to get the shit kicked out of him when he’s teaming with HHH. Hot tag HHH and he beats on Dibiase before giving both heels the spinebuster. Shawn comes in and it’s LUCHA DX, as HHH backdrops Shawn over the top onto Cody. However, this allows Dibiase to punt HHH right in his chief operating officers. And now HHH gets the heat for once! Dibiase with the chinlock right out of Randy Orton’s boring playbook, as HHH is unable to escape and make the tag. That segment goes on for quite a while until HHH makes his comeback and slugs it out, then tosses Dibiase to buy time. Rhodes throws his partner back in, but it’s hot tag Shawn. Dibiase cuts him off with a clothesline off the kip up, and the brawl is on. Cody TO THE TOP, but the flying elbow misses. Shawn goes up in turn, but Cody puts him down and they fight for a superplex. Cody ends up on the mat, but Shawn drops an elbow on his knees and Cody gets two. You’d think that would have hurt Cody’s knees as much as it hurt Shawn’s elbow. And indeed, Shawn snaps a figure-four on him. That’s why he’s in the Hall of Fame. Dibiase breaks that up and it’s BONZO GONZO, leading to Rhodes hitting Crossroads on Shawn for two. HHH breaks it up with a KICK WHAM PEDIGREE, but Dibiase hits the Dream Street on Shawn. So Rhodes and Shawn are out in the ring, while Dibiase and HHH are out on the outside. Superkick on Cody finishes at 20:00. Mostly dull tag match with a tremendous finish. ***1/2 This would lead to a bizarre submissions-only tag match at that crappy Breaking Point show, and then a really good and unique Hell in a Cell blowoff. The end result was supposed to be making Legacy look like superstars who could hang with D-X, but then they just ran a breakup angle after the Orton deal and they never teamed again. Shawn Michaels v. Kane From RAW, March 2010. Kane pounds away in the corner and gets a dropkick for two. Suplex gets two. Chinlock and corner clothesline and Kane slugs away in the corner and follows with a sideslam for two. Kane goes up and tries a clothesline, but Shawn catches him with a crossface on the way down. That was not a pretty sequence. Kane quickly gets to the ropes, but Shawn takes him down with an anklelock now. Kane makes the ropes again, so Shawn hits him with the flying forearm and goes up with the flying elbow. He sets up to finish, but Undertaker appears after a blackout and chokeslams him. Kane gets two off that. Tombstone is reversed to the superkick to finish at 5:25. Nothing match, which ended up being Shawn’s last one on RAW. *1/2 Streak v. Career: Undertaker v. Shawn Michaels Shawn’s last match to date, from Wrestlemania 26. Shawn fires away with chops in the corner, but eats Snake Eyes and a big boot. Corner clothesline and Taker tries to go Old School, but Shawn pulls him down. A second try hits, however. Taker pounds away in the corner and sets up for the tombstone, but Shawn slips out and fights for a crossface. Taker fights that off, but nearly takes the superkick before slipping away. Shawn decides to work on the leg in the corner, but Taker slugs him down and clotheslines him to the floor. That sets up a tope attempt, but Shawn slides in and clips the knee to stop him. Taker tosses him and runs his back into the post, then drops the guillotine legdrop on the apron. Back in, Shawn takes him down with a figure-four, but that only seems to make Undertaker really, really mad. He reverses the move and Shawn releases, and they slug it out. Shawn puts him down and kips up, but it’s a chokeslam for two. Tombstone is reversed into an anklelock by Shawn, so I guess that’s why Jericho couldn’t have it. Taker kicks him in the head a few times to break, but Shawn clotheslines him to the floor and follows with a moonsault. Taker catches that and tombstones him on the floor, and you have to figure that’s not good for Shawn’s career. An EMT runs down to check on Shawn, but Taker beats him up and rolls Shawn back in for two. Last Ride, but Taker’s knee gives out and Shawn gets two. Looked bad. Shawn goes up and drops the elbow, but Taker gets his knee up to block and Shawn takes the bump on his ribs. Ouch. Taker tries Hell’s Gate and Shawn rolls it over for two. They both struggle up and Shawn superkicks him for two. Shawn cues up another one, but Taker catches it and counters to the Last Ride for two. That was a giant near-fall. A frustrated UT tosses Shawn and preps the announce table, but Shawn escapes a powerbomb and superkicks him onto it instead. And given that it’s Wrestlemania, Shawn can’t resist a moonsault from the top, which puts Taker through the table. He even hits the knee, which is either a great bit of psychology or a lucky miss. Back in, Shawn adds one more superkick…for two. This match needs Jim Ross so badly. Shawn wants another one, but Taker chokeslams him. No cover, as he opts for the tombstone instead, and that only gets two. The crowd is just going insane now. Taker’s had it and he pulls the straps down, but he stops because he doesn’t want to end Shawn’s career. Just awesome facials from Shawn, as he gives Taker’s throat-cutting gesture right back to him, and then slaps Taker. And that’s it, as Taker tombstones him extra-super-duper hard for the pin at 23:57 to end it. If this was Shawn’s last match (which it’s not), he went out with another Wrestlemania classic. However, I just don’t think it was as good as last year, because expectations were so ridiculously high. ****1/2 The Pulse Hey, for $7 what are you gonna complain about here? Nothing, that’s what. Yeah, it’s really limiting to only be able to use stuff from the HD era and nothing past 2010 apparently, but for a quick fix (even if all the matches are already featured on other DVDs) you could do worse. Recommended.

Shawn Michaels

Scott,
Thanks for taking my questions…was reading "Sex Lies and Headlocks" and Shawn Michaels seems to be a fascinating person.  I've always been a big fan of his, but where do you put him in the pantheon of all-timers?  He didn't have the longevity as Flair, Hogan, Austin, or even HHH or UT as "the man".  His early years as "the man" coincided with Nitros dominance over Raw.  As much as he delivered in the ring, I'd have to see he's historically overrated and behind  Hogan, Austin, Flair, HHH, UT, Rock, and Cena.  Thoughts?  Thanks       MH

Well, the thing with Shawn is that you kind of have to divide his career into the two different eras, because it's basically like two different people.  The arrogant drugged-out ass who put on great matches but tanked ratings, and then the beloved legend who ended up carrying the promotion on his back through some times when key people got injured and someone needed to step up.  As I've said many times, I hate the first guy and love the second guy.  I think the second guy is enough to put him over the top as one of the best of all-time, though, because he got out at the right time and left an awesome legacy.