RF Video Shoot and Undercover with New Jack (2004)

This was filmed in 2004

The interview was conducted by Rob Feinstein

It runs at one hour and fifty-two minutes long

The interview starts with New Jack saying that unlike his previous two RF Video shoot interviews, he does not work for ECW or anyone else right now. He then tells Feinstein before he asks his “stupid, motherfucking questions” he wants to talk about a few things.

Jack says that he wants to talk about Paul Heyman. He mocks Heyman, at one point impersonating Heyman saying “Have I ever lied to you” as Jack then tells a story about Heyman telling the locker room backstage at a PPV that his money got seized at the border, because they thought it was drug money so they could not get paid. At that time, the locker room was three months behind on pay.

The next Heyman story from Jack was when Heyman told Jack to go down to Georgia and turn himself in on charges then he would send him money to avoid going to jail. Jack said he told Heyman if he didn’t send the money in three days he would get locked up and Jack ended up sitting in a jail cell for nine weeks. After that, he returned to the arena and cut a promo about missing the ECW fans and the crowd turned him face, something that was not planned at all.

Heyman story #3 is Jack saying when Sandman got naked in the ring in Pensacola, FL, he only got sent home for a few days. Then when Taz got charged with sexual assault in a tanning booth in Pittsburgh, Jack said Heyman paid the girl not to go to court because Taz was one of his top guys. Jack then said that Heyman told them he was going to California and not coming back until he signed a new TV deal for ECW but in reality he was out filming the movie “Rollerball.” He talks about how Heyman would tell all the boys he was the “Captain of the Ship” and would go down with them but in reality he was jumping off of it behind their backs as Jack calls Heyman a “cocksucking motherfucker” adding how he even got some of the others to believe what he was saying and even how Heyman is preventing guys from getting work in the WWE because he has heat. Jack said if he saw Heyman in the WWE, he’d smack the shit out of him and if he even saw his momma he would run over her with his car. Jack said he would even tie Heyman’s daddy to a fence and “let a bull butt-fuck him.” Jack goes off on Heyman while spewing off all sorts of profanities.

Jack then selects Tod Gordon as his next target. He goes off on him for smoking crack and fucking some chick while he was on the side and how no one wanted word of this to get out because Gordon was a respected businessman in Philadelphia.

He then talks about how if you “played the game” the ECW office would get you over and then would eventually let you go to “the fed.”

We get another Heyman story as Jack tells us that one show in New York, Heyman called him up before it started. Heyman told Jack that the New York Athletic commission said last time they ran a show there, Jack hit on the guy’s fourteen year old daughter as Jack said the claim was ridiculous and how he has a 17 year old daughter himself. Jack then said the reason Heyman called him with this info was that he was owed money as Jack then told Heyman he was showing up in the parking lot for his money, as he was owed about $8,000 at the time. Jack called his bluff and told Heyman that ifhe gave him $6,000 he would go away. So, Heyman sent someone down to give Jack money, which turned out to be $500. Jack told the person that Heyman lost his mind then as he was there, the athletic commissioner walked by so Jack asked him he heard that he was mad at him for hitting on his daughter. The athletic commissioner told Jack that if he hit on his daughter at the last show he would have been pissed off at him but added that the problem was that he did not have any children to begin with.

Jack then said that during a PPV in Los Angeles, Heyman called him while he was in Dayton, OH. Heyman told Jack that he was at the police station because a woman claimed that Jack raped her and asked for a phone number to call him back on but not his cell phone. Jack said that Heyman told him the woman accused him of beating her up after not paying her for sex as Jack told Heyman that he was all the way in fucking Dayton, noting how it was all bullshit as a result, then hung up the phone.

He goes off on Heyman again, saying that when ECW first aired on TNN, he would not feature him on TV but only did so when he was trying to get kicked off the air then blamed Jack’s style of wrestling for that as Jack said Heyman is full of shit as he was the one who edited the shows. Jack then accused Heyman of making him the “sacrificial lamb” so he could file bankruptcy then go over to the WWE, stating Heyman gambled all his money as Jack tells a story of how he got Heyman and Taz gold cards at Harrah’s and one night they got snowed in and while at the Casino, they only got about $50 limits on their cards because Heyman gambled away $17,000 in one night, noting how they keep track of everything on those cards. He then tells Heyman that he will make sure he gets a copy of this interview, adding how he will mail him one when it comes out.

Jack goes off about how the WWE hired Heyman at $52,000 because if he made anymore than that he would not be protected from people who were trying to sue him as he accuses Heyman of stealing ECW away from Tod Gordon by coming into the company with his connections then steering everyone in the company to his direction. He then points out how Heyman doesn’t give a fuck about anyone and how he is in his 30’s and still lives at home with his parents so as a result, “he ain’t shit.”

The focus now switches over to Bubba & D’Von Dudley. He first said that they were not even the original Dudley’s, just “tryouts” as he calls them, but that Bubba “takes it up the ass” and that D’Von is a “white man dressed as a nigga” and they ain’t shit either. He then said that he used to be tight with D’Von in the locker room, even letting him live at his house at one point, but that D’Von was “sweating” this rat he was fucking, noting that he didn’t care if he fucked her down the line as she was with Stevie Richards too at one point but that he was trying to get with her while they were together and that was wrong. Jack refers to Bubba as the “puppet master” as he tells D’Von what to do and he does it while adding when they got split up in the WWE they weren’t worth shit then says that they bit off his ring gear (wearing camouflage), his music (the missile drop), and D’Von tried to get with his woman and that is why he doesn’t like him. He says Bubba is a “momma’s boy” and hopes that if he has kids they are born “defective” and that when the WWE releases them, he warns them both that the same people they shit on the way to the top will be waiting for them on the indy scene as he challenges them both to “put them up” if they cross paths.

Jack then lets Feinstein ask questions. The first is how he ended up in XPW. Jack said that he got there due to Vic Grimes as he talks about cracking his skull and other injuries suffered from a fall they took off of a balcony during a match in ECW. He said they were going to work a program together there and that was when he tossed Grimes 40 feet off of a scaffold, who missed the floor by several inches. He said that XPW was shit and just another paycheck.

He calls XPW the “backyard of backyards” as he said Rob Black would tell them before the show to have good matches, cut themselves (as Jack motions sideways across his forehead) and that they will have fun when the show ends. Jack said he was a mark and tells a story of how he once had a kid dressed like Sabu run in during the middle of a Sabu match and how he sent people over to Messiah’s house where they cut off his thumb as Jack says he can’t even jerk off with that hand anymore. When asked what it was like to work with Messiah, Jack said he was a young kid who tried but also has as much of a future in business than he does at flying to the moon.

Jack then talks about Black and how he made the shittiest and generic pornos and no mind for the wrestling business but thought he knew what he was doing and just a “mark with money.”

On working for Gary Yap in EPIC Pro Wrestling and how he would dodge him as he owed him money as he talks about the only way he got his money from Yap and other promoters was when he threatened them or his family. Jack said he sent some guys he knew to Yap’s girlfriend’s strip club that she danced at told the manager that they would beat the girl with a bat unless Yap paid Jack and an hour later Jack got a call that his money was at Western Union.

Jack then tells a story about Yap sending him a plane ticket but not the right one as he had multiple layovers and the airline lost his bag containing his wrestling gear. He told Yap to buy him some clothes to wear for the match and he did and Jack wrestled then promised to pay for him to fly back to Atlanta but Yap avoided him and Jack had to fly himself as he said he only got paid for that at the end after having his girlfriend threatened.

He worked in 3PW for Blue Meanie and Jasmin St. Claire as Jack calls her a skank then counters Jasmin’s claim of him snorting coke with her getting fucked by over 350 guys in one day as he would rather be in the snorting coke line as he said he heard Jasmin had to “ice down her pussy” after the gangbang shoot. He talks about being asked to put over Bam Bam, who he had no problem with, but Jack said he put Bam Bam over several other times, including the high school auditorium he graduated from and didn’t want to do it again. He then said he was on a flight from Atlanta to Philly, that Jasmin ended up giving him the wrong information for, that got delayed due to the weather in Philly. Jack then said he kept calling Jasmin hourly to give her updates and then realized he was not going to make it then the next day on the internet, Jasmin posted that New Jack double booked himself and that was why he did not arrive and that the Blue Meanie, who Jack refers to as a “bitch-ass” and how his claim to fame is the boyfriend of Jasmin and how Bam Bam was shooting on Jack in the ring about how he didn’t want to job to him as Jack said in reality Bam Bam was probably pissed that he couldn’t get any cocaine that night as Jack also said he was snorting cocaine “like a hoover” at that time. Jack then wishes for Meanie to “die of AIDS.” He says that Jasmin as a pussy the size of the “Delaware River.” He then laughs and tells Rob that he wanted a shoot and the only thing missing is a gun.

When asked about going to TNA, Jack said that he was close with Bill Behrens, who got him into the company. He got there and was with other ex-ECW guys and said that he came out and was made to look like a joke, noting out everytime he came out he ended up getting carried out to the back and how Mike Awesome and Justin Credible came in and got to look good as Jack said he didn’t want to make it a racial thing but wanted to know why he was the one who got stretchered out. Jack also said that Jarrett got mad at him for the language he used and asked what he could say, which was “bitch” and “ass.” Jack then said that Jarrett and Shane Douglas would come out and swear constantly.

On the backstage segments with Shark Boy, Jack said that he was either drunk or high for every single one of them. Jack then talks about the “Hard 10” tournament (A tournament that featured hardcore matches that were judged on a point system based on various types of weapon shots) and how they came to him and wanted Jack to wrestle the Sandman in a “Hard 20” match. He then talks about Jeff Jarrett and how he brought Sting in as his partner but used it as an attempt to put himself over as Jack tells Jarrett that he is not over and never was over at any point and if it wasn’t for his dad he wouldn’t have been shit.

After TNA, Jack went to work with CZW. He said Zandig wanted him to come in and work an angle together ending with Jack turning heel. Jack then told Zandig that he could “fuck his grandma” in the ring and get cheered, pointing out that the crowd would cheer for him no matter what. Jack recalls Zandig trying to get a job in ECW but was unable to make it so he created his own as Jack said CZW couldn’t draw flies if it was a “pile of shit.” Jack says the only reason people come to his shows is because its all those fans have. He talks about Zandig being afraid to face him in a match after he stapled gun him in a match and Jack told someone that he would pay him back for that. Jack then talks about how Zandig is the owner, booker, a wrestler, and everything else and in way over his head.

When asked about the Mass Transit incident, Jack said Transit came to him asking to “look good” as he was in his hometown. The Gangstas won the belts prior to the show. Jack said he told Heyman he would cut his head off and said he used a surgical scalpel to cut the kid from ear-to-ear. After the match, Heyman switched Jack to a new hotel and had him fly out a few days after the show then nine months later, Jack got indicted but got acquitted in court. He talks about Transit died a year ago and how his parents tried to sue him after he died. Jack said that Transit was fat when he met him and it didn’t just happen overnight (Gulas died after complications from gastric bypass surgery).

Feinstein asks him about an appearance on a radio show when he talked about the WWE talking to him about coming in and working with the Dudley Boyz. Jack said that Heyman called him about coming in but Jack sensed it was bullshit and that the WWE only wanted him for the rights to his name as they could keep it when he left. Jack said that he got his name over and is not signing that away.

Jack said that Dreamer is not “hardcore” no matter how much they want to portray him in that way. He says that he is “too pretty” but likes Dreamer a lot and is not saying this as a way to put him down.

He claims to be retiring at the end of the year due to chronic pain and seizures. He says that he would rather retire before ended up “retarded.” (Jack retired in 2013).

On Frank Goodman and USA Pro Wrestling, Jack jokes that his shows last forever but that he pays him well. He says that the show drew but lasted forever. On working with Louie Ramos, Jack said he is nice and respectful but he will not make a living in wrestling and to not quite his day job.

Jack says he does not keep in touch with Mustafa and does not want to as he is an idiot who did not understand what they had as a team. Jack said that Ricky Morton told him once that he and Robert Gibson couldn’t stand each other but that they knew what they had together and made it work.

He said the only thing he misses about ECW were the “hoes” at the Holiday Inn as he had girls running up and down the halls naked as he had rented the top floor. He then says that ECW will never be duplicated and how you had to be a “soldier” to survive the company at that time.

When asked about his health, Jack said he got surgery on his back but he has no sight in his eye due to the balcony fall, which he still gets treated for today. He then says in the morning he gets out of bed to take a piss then puts on his ankle and neck braces and how it will not get any better. Regardless, Jack says he has no regrets about anything in his career.

Jack is asked about the biggest misconception people have about him as he said people think he is the person they see on TV in real life. Jack talks about how he was tried to help many wrestlers but does not want any thanks for that then says he does not care about what the fans think of him as their job is to buy a ticket, merchandise, enjoy the show then take their “dumbass” home.

He then tells Heyman that he is one of the “lowest motherfuckers” on the planet and got away with “almost murder” as Louie Spicolli and Bobby Duncum died under his watch and Jack doesn’t blame pills but rather Heyman for letting them get lost in the shuffle as he wishes Heyman nothing but bad luck and that he “suffers like a motherfucker” before he dies.

On Missy Hyatt, Jack said they “hung out” for a few weeks until one day Missy went to the police day and said her roommate “Missy Hyatt” was missing. When the detective asked for her name, she said it was “Melissa Hiatt,” which was her name. The detective then asked Missy if she was on any medications as she said that she was on a “whole lot of shit” then dumped her pills out of her purse onto the counter then turned in either her doctor that prescribed them or someone forging scripts as I couldnt tell what Jack was saying and he had written over 2,000 scripts and was facing charges and as a result killed himself as Jack blames Missy for the guy’s death as he wishes to run her over with a lawnmower for being pathetic and that she is 40 years old and does not realize that her day has passed.

When asked about the incident with Gypsy Joe, Jack said that he was asked to wrestle Joe, who looked to be about a 100 years old. Joe told Jack that he invented hardcore and could teach him a few things as he talked about beating up Taz and Steve Austin. During the match, Joe refused to sell anything then busted his nose with a headbutt and after that Jack beat on Joe for real. Jack said some fans were calling him a “nigger” repeatedly and after brutalizing Joe, the promoter came out and called the match as Jack accused Joe of killing the business with comedy matches.

Jack then introduces us to his protégé Kwame, who is a bouncer at a strip club in Philadelphia, and found out that they are related as he is on camera for about a minute.

About his favorite rib, Jack tells a story about sharing a room with Jason Knight and how Jack glued the phone handle to the receiver then called it with his cell phone as Jason picked it up and it got stuck to him. He then glued Jason’s shoes to the ceiling, toothbrush to the sink, and the soap to the soap dish and the remote to the nightstand as it was facing the wall. Jack then said that he is cool with Jason and likes him, even if others do not.

Now the video switches from the hotel room to the RF Video offices as we get the “undercover” part of the tape. Jack said he just got out of jail as he talks about being in a match in a guy who was green and the guy was shooting on him in the ring. He also said the guy (William Jason Lane) told him before the match that he only “got color” hardway too. Jack said that he stabbed the guy in the head and neck of the neck and after stabbing him several other times the match was stopped and Jack was in jail for nineteen days and the charges were dropped because it happened in the ring. Jack claims you cannot get charged for that and that the wrestler did not even press charges as the cops took Jack away. He then says that if you want a crash course in the business the best thing to do is get into the ring with a veteran and show in disrespect, as you can either get your ass beat or stabbed, which is what he prefers as Jack claims that he has “soft hands.”

When he got to jail, Jack said no one knew what he was put in red, as that meant you were violent and that was his second time he was charged with violence. Jack said while in jail he mostly kept to himself and said he kept on making up reasons for why he was there as he was paying a lawyer to get him out and he didnt want to talk to the others. He said some of the inmates knew who he was but Jack did not want to entertain them.

Jack says that some states, like New York, are giving him a hard time about getting work in the state as Jack said its bullshit that he had both cases acquitted. He then said the way the case was handled in the media was bullshit as it portrayed him as someone like Jeffrey Dahmer then said it has hurt him a lot financially as others are afraid to get in the ring with him. Jack said he is down about $9,000 due to paying lawyers. As he is talking, he receives a phone call from Hack Meyers and quickly rushes him off of the phone.

He then talks abut the police pressing charges for the stabbing, even after the wrestler dropped them. Jack said he would never knowingly stab someone on camera if he was going to go to jail. He then said Lane got back in the ring after the stabbing thus proving that he was not afraid for his life.

Jack talks about how he found out who had his back as only a few people reached out to him while he was in jail as he declares that he doesnt give a fuck about anyone.  He says that he is going to do some work in Los Angeles and just did some stuff with the Goodie Mob. Jack also says that he is wrestling in Puerto Rico.

We then see the tape of Jack stabbing Lane, even providing commentary. As the wrestler made his entrance, Jack said that before the match he told Jack he had been wrestling a hardcore style for years in Florida but when they talked Jack realized that he didnt know what any of the terms met, not even kayfabe. He even jokes how all the fans in attendance were dressed as chairs and how well the show was promoted (There looked to be about 15 fans in attendance). The match starts as the guy fucks up a lockup then stiffs Jack with a punch to the back of the head before he tried to dump him to the floor then Jack stabbed him several times as Jack told the guy to get the promoter after he was unable to do the match. Jack again stresses that the guy told him he knew how to work and wanted to get color. The guy comes as Jack was holding up the guy, telling him that he was hurt. The tape ended after that as Jack said that was how he got put away and says when you book New Jack not to expect arm drags and stuff like that. Jack then says that he has nothing else to say as he wants to leave and to go the “titty club.” He then plugs the newest album from the Goodie Mob as the interview ends.

Final Thoughts: This shoot was something else. First off, the first 20 minutes that features Jack going off on people was incredible. As far as what he says, it is shocking. As far as that being believable, who knows but I do know that after many shoot interviews that feature people talking about being lied to by Heyman, a lot of them state Heyman would call them up with a lie then purposely avoid them afterwards. Its a common theme among Heyman lies.

The “undercover” part of the shoot, with footage of Jack stabbing the indy wrestler, I really dont know what to make of that. It seemed like part of it was for Jack to clear his name so to speak to those who saw the reports about him on the news. Part of it also seemed as an attempt to market himself as an unpredictable wrestler. Another part of it seems to be Jack’s personality and how he seems to be getting off of doing shit like this to people who were not expecting it, regardless the situation.

Another thing I took away from this shoot, which is highly controversial, is that Jack knew the independent scene was gravitating towards the “workrate” crowd and saw this as the way to market himself. And it worked has Jack has done all sorts of shoot interviews with various companies since. Jack got the business and could market himself, something a fan or someone who loathes him should be able to understand. Jack amped up the shock value here (like the constant wishing or suffering and death for various people and their families) but I think its clear Jack has a few screws loose.

I recommend this shoot, as it is quite the interview. Its really a spectacle to say the least. Even if you are not a fan of his, I would recommend this to you.

You can purchase the DVD of this for $20 or the Digital Download for $9.99 by clicking on the links below.



Here is my schedule for the next several days:

Friday: WWF Wrestling Challenge 7/12/87
Sunday: WWF Superstars of Wrestling 7/18/87
Tuesday: WWF Wrestling Challenge 7/19/87
Thursday: Shoot Interview TBD

Billy Jack Haynes

When Billy Jack Haynes made his wwf return in 86 after being hyped to debut in 1984 but leaving right away, was the reason he was not given a bigger push a direct result of him bailing 2 years prior? He had a pretty good feud with Hercules but then kind of floundered for the middle part of 87 before forming the tag team with Ken Patera to feud with Demolition. Could that team of worked if Haynes did not leave in the middle of the program with Demolition? Or was the writing on the wall after the Hercules feud ended?
​I don't think Vince particularly trusted him, and rightly so.  He pretty much bailed on the company during his biggest run and then went back to Portland, plus he was a major risk to have around at a time when drug use was becoming a sensitive issue for them.  At the time I thought he was a bigger deal, but I was 12 and knowing all the things about him we know now I'm frankly shocked they even brought him back in 86 to begin with.  ​

What’d Jack Tunney do?

Hey Scott:

I was looking through the last few weeks of blog when I came across the post about putting non-wrestlers in the Hall of Fame.  Your Response when Jack Tunney's name came up got me thinking that yeah, I never did understand the specifics of that whole thing.  I found the Observer from 1995 when he "resigned", but the item there presented it as a cost cutting move and offered no other details aside from the brief Tunney history that's pretty well known.  The Observers from 2004 when he died haven't been uploaded to F4W yet, so I can't check those for anything else.

So…what happened?  If he was just let go due to money problems, why did nobody from WWE go to the funeral?  He strikes me as far too important a figure in the company's history to shaft like that without having what they feel is a very good reason.



​Well, Jack Tunney the character was a dignified President beyond reproach, but the real person embezzled company money and racked up gambling debts with it, among other sordid details that came out years later.  I'm actually kind of surprised they let him have a relatively dignified exit from the promotion, in fact.  ​

October Classics: Cactus Jack vs. Vader – Halloween Havoc ’93

Spin the Wheel! Make the Deal! It didn’t land on Coal Miner’s Glove Match this time, and it gave Foley and Vader the chance to beat the crap out of each other. The ending holds this back a little, but each guy had their working boots on for this. Sick bump from Foley when Vader falls back on him. Just an amazing brawl.

WCW Halloween Havoc 1993 – Cactus Jack Vs. Vader by Bluthor

RF Video Shoot Interview with Billy Jack Haynes, Disc Two

This disc runs at one hour and ten minutes long

The disc leaves off at Haynes talking about how he was in great shape at age 42 while in the USWA. He then said that he was going up against WWF guys weekly. He said that he teamed with Brian Lee to face Luger & Davey Boy Smith and told Lawler that they were drawing great cards but Lawler told him that it was because of the WWF guys.

Haynes said that after four months, he went to Jerry Jarrett, who told Haynes that they were not going to put him in a position to hire Haynes as Hogan was given a higher position in the company. Since Haynes told the news channels in 1992 that he injected steroids with Hogan he was not going to get hired. He then tells a story of when he went to a WCW show in St. Petersburg and saw Randy Savage, telling him that he was going to shoot on Hogan in the locker room and asked if he would have his back. Haynes claims that Hogan was telling people that if Haynes came around, he would kick his ass. So, Haynes said he went into Hogan’s dressing room and asked him about what he had been saying about kicking his ass. Haynes said that Hogan backpedaled and claimed that he has nothing to do with who gets hired in WCW, which Haynes said was bullshit, then says maybe Hogan’s nuts will grow back after he stops taking steroids and challenge him to a fight. He finishes the story by saying how he told Hogan that he took steroids, also accusing him of doing a lot of cocaine, then finishes by telling Hogan that he was great for the business but a shitty worker and he left. Haynes then said that Savage went up to him and said that he heard everything. Haynes then talks about boxing Hogan and how he loves UFC and said that he wished he had the chance to get into that.

After that, Haynes left wrestling and became a collector. He said he retired from wrestling and was broke. When asked how he got into that business, Haynes said that a “particular gang” talked to him as Haynes said he transported marijuana in his truck and was paid $15,000 to drive to Santa Clarita, CA and drive back once he does the deal. He said the money and drugs were kept in a locked toolbox built into the truck. Haynes said that he got 10% of the gross and made $30,000 on his second run and $45,000 on his 3rd. He then tells a crazy story that happened on his fourth run, he was given $60,000 to stop somewhere in Sacramento and overheard the guys, who spoke Spanish, say how it was cocaine they were dropping off and Haynes was worried as that would be a life sentence in prison if caught. So, Haynes pulled over on the side of the road and took a crowbar and pried open the toolbox in the truck. He did not find drugs but found $1.2 million dollars in a black leather bag. Haynes said that he ended up driving to Reno then back to Portland where he saw the guy he was collecting for and told him that he ran into a problem. Haynes then said that the guy had a gun in his waist and reached for it but took him down and beat the shit out of him. He then said that he put him in a chicken wing and the guy was shitting his pants after throwing his gun. Haynes also said that he frisked him, as Haynes had a .38 on him, and told him that he was taking $200,000 as his 10% and claims that he heard the guy shit his pants. Haynes then said that Buzz Sawyer did not commit suicide and was killed by this same drug cartel. Haynes said he did not feel bad for transporting pot as he called it harmless but never would have knowingly done it with cocaine.

They take a break and when they come back, Haynes talks about how he just saw Luger during the break. He says that he looked fucked up and they all agreed then Haynes said that when Lex got up to shake his hand, he called him “Randy”, thinking that he was the Macho Man. Haynes thinks that Luger has been doing a ton of cocaine.

Haynes then talks about his fight with Iron Mike Sharpe. He said that he told Blackjack Lanza that there was going to be a fight and that he did not want him to break it up and he was fine with that. He then said that about twenty guys formed a circle and Sharpe kept on throwing jabs as Haynes wanted to test him and talks about how he got caught a few times but channeled Ken Norton and jabbed Sharpe with an uppercut and laid into him. He finished the fight and ended up kicking Sharpe in the face, something that Haynes regrets. After that, Bob Orton jumped in to help Sharpe and tried to take out Haynes but was intercepted by Harley Race, who grabbed him by the throat and this almost turned into a locker room brawl and Vince McMahon fired him. However, Sharpe went up to Vince later that day and admitted that he started the fight and that saved Haynes’ jobs. Haynes then said that he was making $8,000 a week at the time and talks about what kind of job can you make that much without a union and can get fired at anytime. Haynes then said that he made 27,000 in one week working a six-man tag teaming with Piper and Hogan against Orndorff, Hercules, and Adonis.

He talks a bit about Piper after his name was mentioned and says that he is completely full of shit. Haynes said that after Piper claimed to be a three-time state boxing champion, he asked him how that could happen seeing as he quit school at age fifteen and Piper tried to correct himself.

Haynes now talks about how he used to be a strongman and would kick in the doors of crack houses and that he got caught one day and went in front of a judge and got five years probation instead of five years in prison.

He also talks about how he made three suicide attempts. His said that he overdosed on 90 tabs of Vicodin on one occasion and was in his apartment for about three days and covered in vomit. He then says not to ever do that. He also said that he put a gun in his mouth at his friend’s house. Haynes then said that he went to his parents grave and took ten aspirins and a white sheet on the ground then stabbed himself in the forehead with the intention of soaking the sheet with blood so it could reach his parents who were in the ground. The cops came and Haynes was admitted to an inpatient psychiatric unit. He said that he was completely fucked up at the time.

When asked about Gino Hernandez’s death, Haynes said that he was murdered. He then said how he was only in World Class for several months in early 1985 and the whole territory was fucked up on drugs. Haynes said that he rode with Hernandez a few times and recalls wrestling once in Corpus Christi, TX and that Hernandez was dating a 15 year old girl and that girl’s dad told Gino that if he saw her again, he would kill him but Gino ignored the guy and saw the girl and a few weeks after Haynes left, Gino was dead.

Haynes is asked about Ric Flair and what he thinks about him still being on top today. Haynes said that there are two reasons for older guys sticking around: ego or that they love the business.

On guys who he thinks has potential to make it big today, Haynes said that there are two wrestlers that impress him: AJ Styles and Rob Van Dam. He thinks they can be given a major push and make money.

He talks about Bruiser Brody and how Vince badly wanted him in the WWF and if he ever went, there might not have been a Hulk Hogan. Haynes said that Brody never did steroids because he did not have a puffy face. He then said that if he was in Puerto Rico when Brody was murdered, he would have probably died with him because he would not have let the Invader get away with killing him.

Haynes talks about wrestling in Japan and how the language barrier made it difficult. He then said one of the wrestlers played a rib on him when they told him what to say in order for him to hail a cab. Haynes kept yelling the phrase louder as no cabs would stop for him and Haynes was then told that what he was saying was really “suck a dick” in Japanese.

When asked about ribs, Haynes talks about how someone once owed Mr. Fuji $1,000 and had the guy over the house for dinner. Haynes did not say the wrestler’s name but went on to say how the guy loved the dinner and asked Fuji what he made and Fuji lifted up the platter, revealing the head of the guy’s dog.

Today, Haynes said that he is retired and has a fund that he can collect from in a few years and is struggling to get by today.

He says that he misses the business, especially the bond he had with the other wrestlers.

Haynes then talks about more about his sexual abuse and how screwed up he is today over what happened.

When talking about the wrestling business, he said that it is tough then tells Vince McMahon that he is a chickenshit and can stick all of his money up his ass and questions how he can look himself in the mirror after what he did to a 12 year old ring boy. He did not elaborate on what he accused Vince of doing to this kid.

Final Thoughts: This guy came off even crazier in this disc, which is a feat in itself. He discussed drug deals, attempted murders, robbing drug dealers, trying to shoot on Hogan in his dressing room, and his own suicide attempts.

The Honky Tonk Man has claimed several times that while Billy is out there, he is not lying about what he is saying (well, it’s coming from Honky who is known to exaggerate from time to time). Regardless, this guy is pure entertainment as far as interviews are concerned.

Once again, I strongly recommend this interview as it needs to be seen to be believed. He also did a second shoot interview with RF Video titled “Conspiracy Theories” which made this interview seem sane.

Here is a schedule of my upcoming reviews:

Today: WWF Championship Wrestling 7/26/86
Saturday: RoH Crowning a Champion 7/27/02
Sunday: WWF Championship Wrestling 8/2/86
Tuesday: WWF Championship Wrestling 8/9/86

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RF Video Shoot Interview with Billy Jack Haynes, Disc One

This was filmed in January of 2006

The interview was conducted by Rob Feinstein and Doug Gentry

It is a two-disc collection

Disc one runs at one hour and fifty-eight minutes

Haynes said he was a fan of wrestling growing up. He watched Portland Wrestling with Don Owen.

He is asked about how he broke into the business then Haynes says that he wants to shoot then talks about how he had protected the business for his entire career until Vince McMahon exposed it all. Haynes then talks about being a boxer, having several fights then talks about how he was sexually abused by at age 8 by a family member but did not want to tell his father or uncle at the time because they were both fighters and he was afraid that he would kill the molester. He said at age 15, he was an amateur boxer then could not keep it inside any longer so he told his uncle. His uncle then drove his truck to the molester’s house but was killed in an accident along the way. Haynes said that he felt responsible for his uncle’s death. Two weeks later, he told his mother what happened and she told him that she felt that something happened to him. It was his mother’s sister’s husband to did this and she slapped her sister repeatedly and when the molester got up to intervene, Haynes pushed him down. Nothing else happened after that but Haynes said that he and his mother ended up keeping the molestation a secret and as a result his mother ended up having a nervous breakdown and died of a brain aneurysm three days later.  Haynes then looks into the camera and reaches out to anyone who has been sexually abused to tell them how you feel like it was your fault when the molestation occurs then cries and regroups himself to say that if we want a shoot interview, we will get one and says that his dad ended up going blind two years later and all of these factors led him to become a violent fighter in the ring.
Haynes now talks about how he actually got into the business. He said at the time, he was a janitor who made $6 an hour as he dropped out of school at age 15 and went into the military and came home on leave but went AWOL as he stayed longer than he was supposed to and ended up spending six months in a military stockade at Fort Washington. Haynes said he was young and stupid back then. One day, at the age of 27 and claimed that he was 6’4 and 220lbs and went into the gym and took steroids and after four months, he went to 290lbs. Haynes then calls out Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa for being full of shit as steroids give you incredible coordination and strength. He then says that 95% of wrestlers take steroids while the other 5% are full of shit. He then qualified for the Mr. America contest but went to a wrestling show at the advice of the guy giving him steroids and was still a janitor at the time. Don Owen did not want him because he was a local but Dutch Savage, another wrestler and promoter, advised him to drive up to Calgary and train with Stu Hart.
While in Calgary, he trained with 30 guys who were mostly Canadian football players. Haynes said that the first thing you had to do was tuck-and-roll onto a thin piece of carpet over cement. He said that half of the guys could not do it but he did and it hurt like hell but he did not sell that. Haynes said four guys were left at the end and he talks about being stretched out by Stu but did not want to fail as he wanted to make it as a wrestler for his dad then joked that he did not have enough money to get home. Haynes said that he beat everyone out and lost his first match against a guy named Duke Myers in ten minutes. Haynes puts over the Dynamite Kid for helping him make it as a wrestler and calls him the greatest wrestler but notes how he is now crippled and mentions how Vince McMahon made him wrestle with an injured back. Haynes said that Dynamite took care of him and let him stay at his house and fed him as Haynes said he was $25 Canadian per match at the time. Haynes also talks about traveling in the van with the other wrestlers from Calgary to Regina every Monday.
When asked about guys he worked with in Portland, Haynes said that Roddy Piper had the promo part down to a science and tremendous charisma, likening him to Hulk Hogan and Dusty Rhodes but had a terrible body until he went on steroids and said that Piper is a good bullshitter and once told him that he was a boxer so Haynes challenged him to box in the ring and Piper balked at the idea. Haynes said that Buddy Rose was the best athlete for a person who was his size and said that he skated with a pro hockey team in Oregon during the late 70’s. He tells a story about Rose in 1983 when he asked Haynes for $10,000 to supposedly give to the federal government so Haynes gave him the cash but Rose never paid him back. Haynes then said that he ruined Rose’s career by trying to show up in the same territory as him, which would cause Rose to leave. He talks about needing 40 stitches at WrestleMania III after getting hit with a chain by Hercules. Haynes said that they always wrestled stiff in the ring and did not have a problem in doing show at all. He then puts over Hercules for having all four qualities you need as a pro wrestler: charisma, body, promo skills, workrate. Haynes calls Tom Zenk a great talent but said he was a jealous guy. He tells a story of how Zenk took over as a top babyface in Portland when he left for Florida and how Zenk was upset that he wasn’t pushed like Haynes. He then calls Zenk a “backstabbing prick” and recalls seeing him at a bar in 1991 then confronting him but Zenk backed down completely. This prompts him to say that he got along with 95% of the wrestlers but Zenk was not one of them. He puts over Matt Borne and recalls telling him when he was Doink the Clown in the WWF and how people were laughing at him not to worry because he was making a lot of money. Haynes calls Curt Hennig’s death tragic and how he improved as much as all but a few wrestlers. He said that he became a fantastic wrestler and had all four qualities. He credits Rip Oliver for standing by him as he wrestled in Oregon.
He is asked about going to Florida. Haynes said that Eddie Graham saw a tape of him in Oregon and offered him $2,000 a week and a chance to sell his pictures. Haynes pulls out a wrestling magazine in which he was on the cover putting Superstar Billy Graham on the cover. Haynes said that he used to gig his forehead right down to the bone. Haynes then shoots on Hogan by saying that he stole everything from Billy Graham and Haynes thought if you stole from someone, you should pay then 5-10% what you make.
Haynes goes off on Jerry Lawler as he molested a child and bought himself out of trouble. He then said how Lawler refused to job back then yet would constantly show a tape on Memphis TV of him beating Hogan.
Back to Florida, Haynes said that there was a lot of conflict between booker Dusty Rhodes and promoter Eddie Graham. Haynes then calls Dusty a piece of shit as when Dusty left Florida and took a lot of the talent with him to Charlotte, Graham ended up committing suicide a week later as a result. He also said that Dusty planned the whole move to Charlotte as he kept ripping off Graham then shipping off all of the young Florida talent, like Barry Windham, to Charlotte. Haynes said that Dusty was a chicken shit for leaving Graham without any talent.
He then talks about his very, very brief stint in the WWF in late 1984. He only had one match and was primed for a mega-push. At the time, he told Chief Jay Strongbow that he had to leave and go home as his dad was in the ICU as the result of a stroke. However, Strongbow told Haynes that he could not leave as he was going to get a big push leading into the first WrestleMania and if he went home, he was going to get fired. Haynes said that his dad came first before the business and he left and got fired.
Haynes tells a story about Barry Windham once fucking around with his back as he was in the ring. In the locker room, they went at it and Haynes got the best of him and he then shook off Mike Rotunda who tried to break his arm then told him that if he wanted to fight, meet him outside. After that, Haynes went up to Windham’s dad, Blackjack Mulligan, and asked what would happen if he kicked the crap out of his son and Blackjack told Haynes that he is a grown man and can care for himself. He said that Blackjack was a badass and did not want to have him get revenge for his son. He then tells a story of Blackjack beating the shit out of a guy in the locker room after he tried to give his 17 year old, Kendall, some drugs. Haynes said that Blackjack hit the guy ten times and a wrestler called The Saint, who wore an all-white suit, ended up covered in the blood of the guy Blackjack destroyed.
He is asked about a few more workers. He said that Rick Rude broke his neck and was in constant pain every day and as a result he fell into drugs to mask that and that is how he died. He then talks about Kevin Sullivan and said that he managed him in WCW when Haynes was “Black Blood.” This led Haynes to talk about how he tore his knee up wrestling at the Spectrum but that WCW paid for his surgery.
We get a story from Florida. Haynes said that they worked seven days a week and stresses how there is no off-season and back then, if you got hurt you got fired if you took time off and it was easy to do as their were no contracts. Eddie Graham used to once a week from Miami to Tampa. This time he was Mike Graham and Dusty Rhodes. Anyway, the plane engine started to give out and the plane kept dropping and they couldn’t see out of the windshield but miraculously landed the plane safely.
Haynes brings out another magazine in which he is on the cover of with Kerry Von Erich. He said they were both considered as the future NWA World Champion. He said that they ended up putting the belt on Kerry but took it off of him due to his personal problems that Haynes did not want to get into. Later on, Dusty told Haynes that Fritz Von Erich wanted Haynes to come down to Texas as “Billy Von Erich” but Haynes said he wanted to keep his name.
When asked about his time in World-Class, Haynes said that he stayed only a month and did not want to speak ill about the Von Erich’s as they are not alive to defend themselves. He does tell a story about Fritz and how he told him that Tom Loughlin, the original “Billy Jack” was there and wanted to sue Haynes for using his gimmick. He thinks now that Fritz might have said that to try to get him to change his name but he met Loughlin and said he was a nice guy and after that, he added Haynes to his name.
He now talks about marrying Jeannie Clark (Lady Blossom) so she would not get deported back to England. He then said that she went with him to Florida and that when they were both in WCW, Steve Austin came up to him and said that he was dating his ex-wife in a respectful manner and that led Haynes to call him a real man and said that he is proud of his career.
Now, he talks about Starrcade against the Anderson’s. Haynes said that Eddie Graham came up to him and told him that he was going to either shoot Dusty (with a gun) or himself if he went to that show. Haynes then said that Graham sent him a card that read he was going to kill himself but he did not read it until later on. Haynes said that Crockett offered him $5,000 a week and that they wanted Wahoo to do the job in the match but Haynes said that he would. He then talks about how they were pushing Wahoo out at the time as he was older and Wahoo told Haynes that he would job as Haynes was young and going to get the push. He said that he got his check for Starrcade week and it was for $4,800 and the week’s before that were for $3,000. Crockett came into the locker room after Starrcade to ask if anyone had problems with their payoff. Haynes said that Baby Doll took out her check, which was for $8,000, and kissed it saying she loved her payoff. Haynes said no one else did anything and when Crockett left, he ended up leaving the locker room and wanted to speak with him in private as no one discussed money in the locker room.
In Crockett’s office, Haynes said that Crockett disrespected him by making him wait for 20 minutes while he was on the phone so he yelled at Crockett to hang up the fucking phone. He did and asked what was wrong as Haynes told him about the money and Crockett told him that if he did not like him, he could leave the company. Haynes said that he then worked a six-man teaming with Dusty Rhodes and Magnum TA to take on Flair & Ole Anderson & Arn Anderson and was not tagged into the match, which lasted for 20 minutes. He said that the fans chanted his name at the 14 minute mark. He claims that guys like Dusty, Barry Windham, and Magnum were all jealous of him and screwed over his payoffs and left. Haynes then said that he ended up pushing Crockett against the wall as he trembled in fear. Haynes then said that he kicked down Dusty’s door, which was locked, and called him a “big fat fuck” then went home back to Portland.
Haynes now goes back and talks about how he was told by Don Owen on May 21st, 1985 that he was going to become the NWA World Heavyweight Champion. He then said that Fritz Von Erich went nuts at the thought of that as he wanted Kerry to be champion again and the NWA Board of Directors met and they ended up not doing the title change. Haynes then said how Harley Race stood up for him but they decided to have a 60 minute draw instead.
He wound up in the WWF in 1986 after he was wrestling in Portland and got called up by George Scott. He was told that he would be pushed as a “semi-main eventer” and could make up to $8,000 a week. He was booked on the shows underneath Hogan and did in fact average about $8,000 a week. Haynes talks about how he used to hold on to all of Hogan’s gold jewelry when he went out to the ring as Hogan trusted him.
After WrestleMania III, they paired him up with Ken Patera. He then got Brady Boone booked in Portland and showed tapes of him to the WWF and got him booked as his cousin in the WWF. Haynes talks about how Boone looked like a smaller version of himself. He then said that he never got a fair shot and was very talented.
In January of 1988, Haynes said that Vince McMahon, who he calls the “Adolf Hitler of Professional Wrestling” and that he took all of the top guys from the remaining territories which put them all out of business as a result. Haynes said that Vince’s dad would have kicked his ass if he saw him doing that. He ended up giving his notice to Vince that month and opened his gym in Oregon. At the time, Hogan promised Haynes he would be there for the opening but Hogan called him up shortly before the opening and said that he would not be there as Vince wanted him to shoot a music video with Dolly Parton called “Headlock on my Heart” on the day of the opening. Haynes said that he had a lot of people expected to be at the opening who were waiting for Hogan and if he did not show up, the gym would be in trouble and he already put in $200,000 into the business. Two days before the opening, Hogan called Haynes up and said fuck Vince and that he would be there for the opening. Haynes said that he offered Hogan as much cash as he wanted but Hogan did it for free and even flew out on his own dime. Haynes claims that the line was a mile long for the gym full of people waiting to see Hogan.
He goes back to when he left the WWF in 1988. He told Vince that he did not want to job in Oregon but would do anything else after telling Vince that he was leaving to start his own promotion in Oregon. He said that Vince told him that he and Patera would be jobbing to Demolition at WrestleMania IV. When they got to Oregon, Strongbow told Haynes that he was going to do the job tonight. Haynes said that he refused and gave Strongbow the number for his home to give to Vince. He said that he talked with Vince for a half-hour and called him a liar and said it was stupid on his part then said that he gave Vince notice unlike others. Haynes then told Vince to fuck himself and hung up the phone on Vince and quit.
When asked about Randy Savage, Haynes said that he is up at the top of the list out of wrestlers that he respects. He said that they were tight and saw him fight guys. Haynes then talks about how Mike Sharpe started shooting on him in the ring after blowing him off in the locker room when Haynes wanted to go over their match, which was a TV squash. During the match, Sharpe did not sell anything that Haynes did and in the locker room, Haynes said that he dropped Sharpe with an uppercut, who kept on bragging about being a boxer. He said after that, the locker room respected him. He then said that he traveled with Randy, Elizabeth, and Lanny Poffo.
He is asked about other locker room fights. When asked about the Jacques Rougeau/Dynamite Kid fight, Haynes said that what Jacques did was chicken shit. He talked about how Dynamite was a tough fighter and beat the shit out of Jacques in the past and said he heard about Pat Patterson setting up the whole thing as they were both from Montreal.
When talking about the travel, Haynes said that George Steele once held the record with 91 consecutive days and he broke that with 97 straight days on the road. He said that you were always recognized while traveling and looked like a zombie due to all of the travel.
Haynes talks about how he did not really care for drugs or alcohol as a kid but wound up into wrestling by using steroids and there is an unwritten rule in both wrestling and bodybuilding that if you do not take steroids, you never wind up going anywhere. Haynes then talks about how he did steroids from 1980-87. He said that they all passed them around the locker room. He then said that the promoters did not give a shit if you got hurt as they could replace you easily so you did whatever it took to get by.
Haynes said that his Oregon Promotion folded in three months. He said rumors came about that he did not pay the wrestlers but Haynes claims that he showed the commission his receipts and never stiffed them a dime.
On how he ended up in WCW, Haynes said that he came up with the idea of wrestling under a mask and how his wife cleaned him up after their divorce. He also said that he cried for two days straight and ended up buying a mobile home and drove into Atlanta and talked to Dusty about the Black Blood gimmick and how there was a guy in France who chopped the heads off of people in France after putting them in a mask for the death penalty. He said that Dusty liked the gimmick and wanted to call Turner and after a while, got a deal for $250 a match.
Haynes said that it bothered him a bit to go back and work for Dusty. After two months, Haynes said that Paul Heyman was pushing the gimmick to Turner and was on the verge of signing a contract and was beating a guy with his finish, he would not mention his name, and says how you are giving your body to your opponent and could be killed at anytime as you are giving your body to your opponent. As he leaped off of the top for his finishing move, the guy on the mat got scared and put up his hands and Haynes said he tried to twist his body so he would not break the guys arms but in the process, his knee pad hit and tore his kneecap off and it ended up behind his leg. He waited six hours in the emergency department and that was how he became addicted to pain pills. He said that ended his career.
He talks about Sting and Lex Luger and said that Lex had a good body but couldn’t work and did not have great charisma. He said that Sting had the greatest gimmick.
After WCW, he went to Portland. He said he told the Harris Brothers, who wanted to quit, that they had the talent but needed to come up with a gimmick. He said that Steve Doll wanted to wrestle for him instead of Owen as he claimed that he paid more then when he learned from Rob that Doll is now on life support, he freaked out a bit as he does not want to speak ill of people who have passed away. He talks about Brian Adams (Crush) who screwed him over. He wanted to help him get into the WWF and said that Adams got huge due to steroids, as he was skinny when he broke into the business. Haynes said that Adams never gave him any respect, even after showing tapes of him to the WWF. He then said how Adams told him that he was going to get him a tryout in the WWF in 1992 and Haynes showed up to two different shows and was not used as he was told at the last one that Vince did not want to use him. He calls Adams an asshole for ribbing him like that, after he helped him in the beginning of his career then said he broke down in his car after that show and almost grabbed his gun in an attempt to shoot Vince, Adams, the other guy with Adams who Haynes did not mention because he was deceased, and then said that he would have probably shot himself after that. He said that he was just about broke at the time and traveled far away for this show.Haynes said that Vince seemed surprised that Haynes was even at the event and that Hercules was the one who prevented him from taking drastic action.

Haynes talks about being asked by the show “Hard Copy” and “Inside Edition” if Hulk Hogan took steroids and Haynes told them that they both took steroids together. He claimed that he revealed all of this due to his friend, Lyle Alzado (former professional football player who was one of the first athlete’s to come out and admit to steroids use) passing away shortly after he got the call from the shows, which Haynes said was the result of Superstar Billy Graham giving them his phone number.

In 1995, Haynes went to work for Jerry Jarrett in the USWA. He said that Jarrett promised him $700 a week and that he was going to go to WCW and become the booker for them and wanted to bring Haynes along. Haynes said that he was given the belt after a month in the territory. He said that he didn’t want the belt and just wanted the money. He said that some guys would rather be champion than to make money and said how Rip Oliver refused to job to Jake Roberts at a WWF TV taping, because he would rather be the champion in Portland and make less money, then got fired as a result.

He said that the crowds more than tripled when he went to the USWA. Haynes said he was a heel at the time and did some main event’s with Sid Vicious. Haynes said that he was wrestling a show and got a $100 and asked Sid how much he was making and he said $2,000.

Final Thoughts: Holy shit! Haynes promised to give us a shoot and he certainly did. He discussed everything from sexual abuse, contemplating a murder/suicide involving Vince McMahon, marrying someone so they would not be deported, and at one point he mentioned how his father died in his arms.

As far as the wrestling part of the shoot is concerned, Haynes still brought the goods. He does seem crazy in this disc (nowhere near as much as his “Conspiracy Theories” shoot or disc two)  and frequently asked the guys if a wrestler was still alive before he talked about them as he really did not want to discuss anything negative at all about someone who has passed away because they are unable to defend themselves. That is an admirable thing.

Despite all of this, Haynes was not afraid to shy away from questions. He did stray away from the question a few times but more than not it led to a good story. After this disc, I eagerly await the second. So far, I give this a strong recommendation, even if he is whacked.

And for those interested, the schedule of my reviews for the next seven days.

Friday: RF Video Shoot Interview with Billy Jack Haynes, Disc Two 12:30pm EST
Friday: WWF Championship Wrestling 7/26/86 4:00pm EST
Saturday: RoH Crowning a Champion 7/27/02 8:00pm EST
Sunday: WWF Championship Wrestling 8/2/86 9:00pm EST
Tuesday: WWF Championship Wrestling 8/9/86 8:00pm EST

(Give or take about 30 minutes for each post. I just wanted to give a general time for these)

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WWE Network Gets REAL, JACK!!!

WWE Network appears to be preparing for a dose of reality. Check out the story below:

From a survey that was sent out… – WWE has sent out a survey to fans on their mailing list asking for interest in several potential WWE Network reality shows. The shows and summaries of the pitches (via PWInsider) are below:

* Blackman’s Bounties: Former WWE star and legit badass Steve Blackman reality series following his bounty hunting team based out of Harrisburg, PA. Think Dog the Bounty Hunter.

* NXT: Behind the Scenes: A reality series following the talents trying to make it out of the Performance Center and to the main roster, looking at their work, their personal lives and the fraternity of the NXT brand, including the heartbreak of being cut. So, it’s Tough Enough-esque.

* Pros vs. Joes: Pretty much the same as the old SpikeTV series, pitting WWE talents against an average person in physical and non physical challenges. The non physical challenges listed included an air guitar competition. The physical challenges were described as similar to American Gladiators.

* WWE Around the World: Following WWE talents taking part in some of the scariest stunts and attractions around the world, such as shark diving and eating strange foods. It read as if it was modeled after some of the Travel Channel’s “Extreme” specials with a dash of Anthony Bordain’s No Reservations.

* WWE Dirty Jobs: Just like the Discovery Channel reality series of the same name, WWE talents have to perform unpleasant jobs, including going into Chicago sewers and picking up garbage in NYC.

* WWE Prankdown: a practical joke show that features WWE talents pulling tricks on unsuspecting “Superfans.” The example given was John Cena and Randy Orton both wanting to buy an expensive car and getting into a fight at the dealership, only to show the damage they caused was part of the show to trick the fan.

* WWE Rescue: a reality show where WWE talents come to the homes of “super fans” help them with their personal and business problems. Think Restaurant Impossible meets Nanny 911.

* WWE Ultimate Challenge: WWE’s version of CBS’ Amazing Race with a 12 hour extreme scavenger hunt in different cities.

* Xtreme WWE Collector: Starring “Super fan Michael Patterson” – basically a WWE version of Travel Channel’s Toy Hunter, except Patterson is chasing WWE toys and memorabilia.

Credit 411mania.com/wrestling and PWInsider.

New Jack done with ‘Daily Show,’ barks at Dog the Bounty Hunter


I'm shocked and appalled that New Jack would be unable to secure steady employment for himself.  

Jack Swagger Arrested After Smackdown Tapings


Update: According to TMZ, the arrest was for DUI and marijuana possession.  There goes his push I’m guessing.

Apparently Swagger was pulled over on an undisclosed traffic issue.  No word on if alcohol was involved or not and it appears to be a legit arrest rather than storyline based.  Also no word on what this means for Wrestlemania.

Jack Swagger

You've mentioned before that Jack Swagger came back as the same stale product he's always been.  I've asked my friends about it, and our current theory is that Swagger is still the same boring heel because Vince is using him as some sort of petty grudge against Kurt Angle.  Given that Swagger as a face could easily get over (an "On Your Knees" chant would be fun), I can't think of a better reason.  You?


I think that being Canadian, I'm missing out on 90% of the cultural relevance with this new Swagger character because I don't really get what they're going for at all.  Is the Zeb thing supposed to be referencing some specific person or persons?  Is this an ideology that Vince agrees with or disagrees with?  It just feels like they're trying to tap into some zeitgeist thing that I'm totally not getting. But then I feel the same way with football references, so maybe it's just me.

Jack Tunney

Quick question:  does Jack Tunney deserve to be in the WWE Hall of Fame?  Besides being a decent promoter in his own right, he was the pioneer of the WWF Authority Figure, and held that fictional post longer than anybody else in WWE history.

If James Dudley gets in, shouldn't Jack Tunney have a legit claim as well?

I would prefer to think that the next time someone unwarranted gets into the Hall, Tunney will show up and overturn the decision.  But yes, Tunney is certainly as qualified as anyone else to be in the Hall, especially since he pioneered the "Jack Tunney figurehead" trope to begin with.  More importantly, does he warrant inclusion in the WON Hall of Fame?  

Cactus Jack v. Andre The Giant?!?

Here’s one I never thought i’d see. Mick Foley vs Andre in a tag match
from 1991. My only recollection of Andre in 91 was him using that hand
crutch. It’s weird seeing him wrestle.

That is some weird, wild stuff there, chief.  Just when I think I’ve seen every crazy dream match, YouTube finds another one.

Fwd: Jack Swagger


 Do you think Jack Swagger is too far gone to amount to anything?  Guy is a solid worker, but has the stigma of a choke artist after his horrible title run and jobber status since.  Is there anything they could do to make something out of him?  Would a move to TNA do any good by giving him a fresh start?  I keep saying they should do like in the old days with some of these guys that get stuck in a rut — put a mask on them and turn them into a tag team.    Then you can push them without the stigma until people forget about it, unmask them, and bam, you've got a name guy that people remember but respect again.  That's what happened with Doom, for instance, and Ron Simmons got a World title run out of it.  Either that or do like Raven and basically reinvent your personality and look so radically that you become a different person.  However, I think that the "All American American" character has the loser stink on it (and really, ever since he was in ECW with the same character I've thought it was a go-nowhere deal) and it's time to jettison it.

Fwd: Jack Swagger

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From: "Michael Fitzgerald" Hi Scott Hope you're well Possible discussion for the blog I wonder if WWE have considered maybe turning Jack Swagger babyface? It's either that or fire him really at this point. He's lost so many matches to so many people that he's pretty much a joke. Turning him and giving him some fresh matches might give WWE a chance to change that perception. They could try the "Pro-USA" gimmick with him. Hacksaw Duggan could be getting beaten up by two lower card heels (Hunico and the other one, What's he called? Carpacio?) and Swagger could run in for the save and lead the fans in a "USA" chant. Just a thought Keep it real!
—————– Only the realest.   I had thought they were trying to turn Swagger with the whole breakup angle but God knows that ended up forgotten like everything else.  A standard USA gimmick would work as well as anything else for him at this point.