WWE Network Going To Happen?

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/118-daily-updates/29713-wwe-network-notes-surprise-carrier-interested-price-points-what-will-be-on

I'm not sure if the story is behind the paid firewall or not, so here's the quick version:  DirectTV is interested in actually carrying the WWE Network, on the condition that they air 11 of the 12 PPVs per year.  Price point would be somewhere beween $13 and $25 a month.  Otherwise content will be repeat showings of the TV shows, plus the same stuff that's currently on Classics On Demand except not, you know, on demand.  
Obviously it would be a big deal to actually get this monstrosity on the air, but destroying their own PPV business to do so?  I dunno, man.  Even though TV rights fees have seemingly become the basis of their revenue now, UFC is still doing 700,000 buys for a good show even with their ridiculously oversaturated market so throwing away what is still a gigantic money stream like that just seems like a bad idea.  
Still, even if it's a giant flop that destroys their business after launching more than a year after their heavily advertised launch date, at least they would have gotten it on the air, and that's the important thing!

Would you happen to know if the DVDVR message board is dead?

The subject line pretty much says it all. For the past month or so, the DVDVR board has been going through random periods of being down for a day or two before coming back online. The powers that be stated it was just the general server issues but that it would be fine. However, the board's now been down for about a week, which is much longer than normal. Being that your blog and the DVDVR board are pretty much my main two sources of wrestling discussion, this recent turn of events sucks. I was wondering if you or anyone else might know if the board is now gone for good.
Please don't you and the blog disappear either.
Cheers,
Pete

I have no idea about the DVDVR status.  Mine is Blogger, and if BROCKAMANIA 2012 couldn't bring down this version of the blog, there's nothing I can conceive of doing it.  Plus I've still got Scotsman's server as an emergency backup if need be, although it would have to be a severely scaled down version of WordPress if I ever needed to go back there again.  So short answer, have no fear about this blog going anywhere anymore.  
Anyway, if Dean or anyone else on the Death Valley board is reading, can you offer an update for people?  

This Must Happen

From the-w… http://the-w.com/t/45015#477054

Read this on another message board, but my new favourite Royal Rumble scenario is it gets down to two guys (say, Orton and Barrett) with the #30 entrant still to arrive. Orton and Barrett eliminate each other, meaning #30 is the automatic winner. That man is Jericho, who just comes out and cheers, celebrates and cries about his huge Rumble victory.

That is GENIUS.  Given they want Jericho-Punk at Wrestlemania, that gets them there and allows Jericho to back into a title shot without doing anything.  I actually don’t know why someone didn’t try that finish for a Rumble in the past, especially for a heel win.  The other thing they should try is bringing back the King of the Ring, whereby Jericho cruises to the title on a series of double-eliminations that give him 3 byes all the way to the crown.  And people will still probably cheer him. Edit to add:

Hey bro,
The #30 scenario is actually my idea, here is the podcast from last night – do you think you could update your blog to mention that? I’d really appreciate it. Thank you so much! Here is audio podcast link: http://radio.thescore.com/episodes/aftermath-jan-16-2012-aftermathradio

This Must Happen

From the-w… http://the-w.com/t/45015#477054

Read this on another message board, but my new favourite Royal Rumble scenario is it gets down to two guys (say, Orton and Barrett) with the #30 entrant still to arrive. Orton and Barrett eliminate each other, meaning #30 is the automatic winner. That man is Jericho, who just comes out and cheers, celebrates and cries about his huge Rumble victory.

That is GENIUS.  Given they want Jericho-Punk at Wrestlemania, that gets them there and allows Jericho to back into a title shot without doing anything.  I actually don’t know why someone didn’t try that finish for a Rumble in the past, especially for a heel win.  The other thing they should try is bringing back the King of the Ring, whereby Jericho cruises to the title on a series of double-eliminations that give him 3 byes all the way to the crown.  And people will still probably cheer him. Edit to add:

Hey bro,
The #30 scenario is actually my idea, here is the podcast from last night – do you think you could update your blog to mention that? I’d really appreciate it. Thank you so much! Here is audio podcast link: http://radio.thescore.com/episodes/aftermath-jan-16-2012-aftermathradio

This Must Happen

From the-w… http://the-w.com/t/45015#477054

Read this on another message board, but my new favourite Royal Rumble scenario is it gets down to two guys (say, Orton and Barrett) with the #30 entrant still to arrive. Orton and Barrett eliminate each other, meaning #30 is the automatic winner. That man is Jericho, who just comes out and cheers, celebrates and cries about his huge Rumble victory.

That is GENIUS.  Given they want Jericho-Punk at Wrestlemania, that gets them there and allows Jericho to back into a title shot without doing anything.  I actually don’t know why someone didn’t try that finish for a Rumble in the past, especially for a heel win.  The other thing they should try is bringing back the King of the Ring, whereby Jericho cruises to the title on a series of double-eliminations that give him 3 byes all the way to the crown.  And people will still probably cheer him. Edit to add:

Hey bro,
The #30 scenario is actually my idea, here is the podcast from last night – do you think you could update your blog to mention that? I’d really appreciate it. Thank you so much! Here is audio podcast link: http://radio.thescore.com/episodes/aftermath-jan-16-2012-aftermathradio

This Must Happen

From the-w… http://the-w.com/t/45015#477054

Read this on another message board, but my new favourite Royal Rumble scenario is it gets down to two guys (say, Orton and Barrett) with the #30 entrant still to arrive. Orton and Barrett eliminate each other, meaning #30 is the automatic winner. That man is Jericho, who just comes out and cheers, celebrates and cries about his huge Rumble victory.

That is GENIUS.  Given they want Jericho-Punk at Wrestlemania, that gets them there and allows Jericho to back into a title shot without doing anything.  I actually don’t know why someone didn’t try that finish for a Rumble in the past, especially for a heel win.  The other thing they should try is bringing back the King of the Ring, whereby Jericho cruises to the title on a series of double-eliminations that give him 3 byes all the way to the crown.  And people will still probably cheer him. Edit to add:

Hey bro,
The #30 scenario is actually my idea, here is the podcast from last night – do you think you could update your blog to mention that? I’d really appreciate it. Thank you so much! Here is audio podcast link: http://radio.thescore.com/episodes/aftermath-jan-16-2012-aftermathradio

This Must Happen

From the-w… http://the-w.com/t/45015#477054

Read this on another message board, but my new favourite Royal Rumble scenario is it gets down to two guys (say, Orton and Barrett) with the #30 entrant still to arrive. Orton and Barrett eliminate each other, meaning #30 is the automatic winner. That man is Jericho, who just comes out and cheers, celebrates and cries about his huge Rumble victory.

That is GENIUS.  Given they want Jericho-Punk at Wrestlemania, that gets them there and allows Jericho to back into a title shot without doing anything.  I actually don’t know why someone didn’t try that finish for a Rumble in the past, especially for a heel win.  The other thing they should try is bringing back the King of the Ring, whereby Jericho cruises to the title on a series of double-eliminations that give him 3 byes all the way to the crown.  And people will still probably cheer him. Edit to add:

Hey bro,
The #30 scenario is actually my idea, here is the podcast from last night – do you think you could update your blog to mention that? I’d really appreciate it. Thank you so much! Here is audio podcast link: http://radio.thescore.com/episodes/aftermath-jan-16-2012-aftermathradio

Did It Happen?

Hey Scott, I was wondering if any of the following matches had happened, if you knew where to find them, and if they were good enough to warrant hunting down: 
1) Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart, ideally somewhere in the mid 90s while they were both reasonably close to the top of their game (i.e., pre WCW)?

They had a pretty famous match on Saturday Night’s Main Event in the fall of 1987 where Savage was at the very tippy top of his game, and it’s considered one of Savage’s greatest matches and the match that directly led to Bret getting a singles push.  So yes, definitely worth checking it out.  Pretty sure it’s on the Best of SNME DVD set. 

2) Roddy Piper vs. Jake Roberts, before Jake completely lost his shit?

Dude, that would have been such a car wreck in WWF.  Wouldn’t have worked at all.  However, they met a bunch of times in Georgia, although I don’t recall any standouts. 

3) Rick Rude vs. Curt Hennig (before Hennig’s injuries started piling up)?

Rude was long gone from the WWF by the time Hennig turned babyface, and he never passed through the AWA that I know of, so they’ve never met.

4) Shawn Michaels vs. Steve Austin, pre-KOTR 97 (I feel like they fought a bit during Michaels’ first reign, maybe)?

I think they had one match on RAW in late 96 that was the bee’s knees as the kids say, but I don’t recall specifically. 

5) Shawn Michaels vs. CM Punk (maybe at a house show? Seems like it would have happened, but I can’t seem to find it…)

We’ve seen HHH v.  Punk and HHH/Shawn v. Punk/Gallows, but not a Shawn/Punk singles match. 

6) Chris Jericho vs. Bret Hart

The only possibility would be WCW in 1998, and I can’t think of any matches between them. 

Bonus Round: What is it with guys who never job clean? How many clean (defined here as: no extenuating circumstances, outside interference, or cheating; the better man won) jobs can you tell us about for:

Yes!  I rule at Bonus Rounds!

1) Bret Hart, post 1st title win (I can only think of 2; vs. Owen at WMX, and Michaels at WMXII)? 

Bret Hart was kind of a big star, so jobbing a lot would be counterproductive.  Also considering that Bret Hart lost to EVERYONE up and down the card for most of the 80s, calling him out for not doing jobs is kind of hilarious.  The fact that only a few people got the big, clean wins over him and we still REMEMBER those wins shows how important that made them. 

2) Roddy Piper (I can only think of 1, vs. Hart at WMVIII)

Well again, Piper was the second biggest star in the world at one point, so he shouldn’t have been doing jobs and was smart enough to know that.  However, again, pre-WWF he was more of a cowardly manager and yes, he did tons of clean jobs to lots of people.  If you mean during his heyday in the 80s and 90s, the only people to pin him clean were indeed Bret Hart and Jimmy Snuka.  Otherwise you are correct, Piper did not do jobs.  The Snuka one is on a Best of the WWF Coliseum video tape if you’re curious.

3) Goldberg (I don’t know any)

Hector Guerrero!  Just kidding.  I don’t know of anyone who Goldberg laid down for without a caddle prod involved.

4) Lesnar (Goldberg is the only one I know)

Well Cain Velasquez beat him pretty clean.  As for the WWE run, he was only around for two years and was World champion for most of it, so that didn’t leave a lot of time to be returning the favor to people. 

5) Austin, post 1st title win (WMXIX is the only one I could think of, but I feel like Angle or Michaels probably got him at least once, right?)

HHH, No Way Out 2001.  You could kinda sorta count Kane at KOTR 98 as well.  Austin really lost quite frequently for the biggest star in history, actually, even though a lot of times interference was involved. 

 
6) Hogan (Rock, Warrior, sorta Goldberg, sorta Lesnar… not a lot for a 30+ year career… did I miss anyone?)

Not sure how Lesnar is “sorta”.  He made Hogan submit to a bearhug, that’s pretty substantial.  Kurt Angle made him tap to the anklelock as well, although I forget if interference was involved.  I think the Luger win in 97 was pretty clean.  I’d like to think that Rocky Balboa got his win back between Rocky III and Rocky IV. 

7) Cena (despite his rep, he lost clean to Batista, Michaels, Angle, almost Punk, and probably some others… but I wasn’t watching for most of his run)

Jericho, Lesnar, Carlito, too many to name here really.  He paid his dues on the way up.

8) Orton (I know he’s lost to Cena clean, but that’s the only one I can think of)

No way man, plucky babyface Randy Orton was not protected very much until joining Evolution.  I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I remember him staring at the lights a lot between his debut and the Legend Killer era. 

9) Trips, post WM2000 or so (I vaguely remember him losing clean to Rock or Austin occasionally, but beyond that…Michaels at the Street Fight, ??? at WMXX, and…?)

Didn’t Goldberg win the title from him clean as a sheet?  HHH is a smart guy and he also realizes that spacing out the clean jobs makes them more important.  Plus he laid down Jericho’s Lionsault in that tag match, unless you’re only counting singles. 

10) Warrior (did he ever job clean? Like, even once?)

I wanna say Undertaker in 1991 on a bunch of house show matches, but otherwise, no, Warrior did not take well to being on the losing end of fake wrestling matches.  I’m sure the comments section will be entertaining for this one. 

Did It Happen?

Hey Scott, I was wondering if any of the following matches had happened, if you knew where to find them, and if they were good enough to warrant hunting down: 
1) Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart, ideally somewhere in the mid 90s while they were both reasonably close to the top of their game (i.e., pre WCW)?

They had a pretty famous match on Saturday Night’s Main Event in the fall of 1987 where Savage was at the very tippy top of his game, and it’s considered one of Savage’s greatest matches and the match that directly led to Bret getting a singles push.  So yes, definitely worth checking it out.  Pretty sure it’s on the Best of SNME DVD set. 

2) Roddy Piper vs. Jake Roberts, before Jake completely lost his shit?

Dude, that would have been such a car wreck in WWF.  Wouldn’t have worked at all.  However, they met a bunch of times in Georgia, although I don’t recall any standouts. 

3) Rick Rude vs. Curt Hennig (before Hennig’s injuries started piling up)?

Rude was long gone from the WWF by the time Hennig turned babyface, and he never passed through the AWA that I know of, so they’ve never met.

4) Shawn Michaels vs. Steve Austin, pre-KOTR 97 (I feel like they fought a bit during Michaels’ first reign, maybe)?

I think they had one match on RAW in late 96 that was the bee’s knees as the kids say, but I don’t recall specifically. 

5) Shawn Michaels vs. CM Punk (maybe at a house show? Seems like it would have happened, but I can’t seem to find it…)

We’ve seen HHH v.  Punk and HHH/Shawn v. Punk/Gallows, but not a Shawn/Punk singles match. 

6) Chris Jericho vs. Bret Hart

The only possibility would be WCW in 1998, and I can’t think of any matches between them. 

Bonus Round: What is it with guys who never job clean? How many clean (defined here as: no extenuating circumstances, outside interference, or cheating; the better man won) jobs can you tell us about for:

Yes!  I rule at Bonus Rounds!

1) Bret Hart, post 1st title win (I can only think of 2; vs. Owen at WMX, and Michaels at WMXII)? 

Bret Hart was kind of a big star, so jobbing a lot would be counterproductive.  Also considering that Bret Hart lost to EVERYONE up and down the card for most of the 80s, calling him out for not doing jobs is kind of hilarious.  The fact that only a few people got the big, clean wins over him and we still REMEMBER those wins shows how important that made them. 

2) Roddy Piper (I can only think of 1, vs. Hart at WMVIII)

Well again, Piper was the second biggest star in the world at one point, so he shouldn’t have been doing jobs and was smart enough to know that.  However, again, pre-WWF he was more of a cowardly manager and yes, he did tons of clean jobs to lots of people.  If you mean during his heyday in the 80s and 90s, the only people to pin him clean were indeed Bret Hart and Jimmy Snuka.  Otherwise you are correct, Piper did not do jobs.  The Snuka one is on a Best of the WWF Coliseum video tape if you’re curious.

3) Goldberg (I don’t know any)

Hector Guerrero!  Just kidding.  I don’t know of anyone who Goldberg laid down for without a caddle prod involved.

4) Lesnar (Goldberg is the only one I know)

Well Cain Velasquez beat him pretty clean.  As for the WWE run, he was only around for two years and was World champion for most of it, so that didn’t leave a lot of time to be returning the favor to people. 

5) Austin, post 1st title win (WMXIX is the only one I could think of, but I feel like Angle or Michaels probably got him at least once, right?)

HHH, No Way Out 2001.  You could kinda sorta count Kane at KOTR 98 as well.  Austin really lost quite frequently for the biggest star in history, actually, even though a lot of times interference was involved. 

 
6) Hogan (Rock, Warrior, sorta Goldberg, sorta Lesnar… not a lot for a 30+ year career… did I miss anyone?)

Not sure how Lesnar is “sorta”.  He made Hogan submit to a bearhug, that’s pretty substantial.  Kurt Angle made him tap to the anklelock as well, although I forget if interference was involved.  I think the Luger win in 97 was pretty clean.  I’d like to think that Rocky Balboa got his win back between Rocky III and Rocky IV. 

7) Cena (despite his rep, he lost clean to Batista, Michaels, Angle, almost Punk, and probably some others… but I wasn’t watching for most of his run)

Jericho, Lesnar, Carlito, too many to name here really.  He paid his dues on the way up.

8) Orton (I know he’s lost to Cena clean, but that’s the only one I can think of)

No way man, plucky babyface Randy Orton was not protected very much until joining Evolution.  I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I remember him staring at the lights a lot between his debut and the Legend Killer era. 

9) Trips, post WM2000 or so (I vaguely remember him losing clean to Rock or Austin occasionally, but beyond that…Michaels at the Street Fight, ??? at WMXX, and…?)

Didn’t Goldberg win the title from him clean as a sheet?  HHH is a smart guy and he also realizes that spacing out the clean jobs makes them more important.  Plus he laid down Jericho’s Lionsault in that tag match, unless you’re only counting singles. 

10) Warrior (did he ever job clean? Like, even once?)

I wanna say Undertaker in 1991 on a bunch of house show matches, but otherwise, no, Warrior did not take well to being on the losing end of fake wrestling matches.  I’m sure the comments section will be entertaining for this one.