Santana/Martel: When/did this even properly end?
Hart Foundation/Bulldogs: I know these guys had tons of great matches, but did any of them actually signify "And this feud is over, here is your winners.."
Piper/Flair: Seriously, before/after they decided to not do a Hogan WM8 match for whatever reason, (I've seen them make worse decisions on wrestlers still fighting each other after less than stellar House show reviews), these guys were Golden against each
other on the mic and in the ring. Was RR92 their definitive ending?
I tried to go beyond WWE late 80's/early 90's, but it was my peak of interest, so sue me. Any ones that also really pissed you off? Keep up the good work Mr. Keith
In the world of wrestling, we fans appear to be very patient. We’ve
sat through some of the most atrocious, inane, insulting story lines and
matches in history. We do this simply because when wrestling is good, you’re hard-pressed to find much else that’s better. Plus, some of the ridiculous
stuff is actually fun to watch, even if you are being insulted by the
people who think you’d actually enjoy this. That being said, there’s at least 2 types of
A] The kind of crap that’s executed by people whom you’ve never even
had a vested interest in and thus you know is going to be horrible, and
B] The type of crap that’s executed by people you thought you could
trust. Wrestlers and companies that take something you’re banking on
being good, and make it the exact opposite.
Well, in today’s tale, we’re going to go over an event that’s a bit
of a mix of both. Something that you knew was probably going to suck,
but in a way you trusted those participating and hoped that they could
pull out something good, because hell, they’d done it before. Which
event in question am I referring to, you ask?
1998′s Return of the
Oh 1998. It was a good year for WCW, it’d reached the highest
records it’d ever held, as far as buy-rates, media-coverage, merchandise
sales, and house-show attendance. So, I suppose when you’re riding
high, why not try to ride higher, ay? Also, when you have a world
champion who’s on fire and one of the biggest draws in wrestling, you
should find a way to make sure he’s second banana to an aging glory-hog
who hadn’t had a decent match in at least 4 years. Enter the Warrior.
Enter the Warrior on a million dollars a year to work 3 days a month.
As you probably know, the Ultimate Warrior was a huge superstar back
in the hay-days of the WWE. His energetic entrances and smash-mouth
wrestling style allowed the WWE’s boom period to last longer than it probably would have. But of course, he was
a huge flake and couldn’t be trusted with the ball for longer than 2
minutes. So, despite the fact he’d been cancer to every promotion he’d
worked in [major, I’m not counting the regionals when he worked with
Stinger], Eric Bischoff, under the sound advice of Hogan, brought the
Warrior in for a cool 1 million dollars. Because as you know, the
Warrior is someone Hogan hasn’t beat, and well, that just can’t stand
for long. So, he was paid 1 million dollars to work about 3 dates a
month. Where’s people like Eddie Guerreo and Rey Mysterio were making
probably a quarter or less of that, and putting on MOTY. While Warrior was making a cool million, and competed in 2 of the worst main events of all time. It’s how WCW
worked. Let’s blow a lot of money for a quick pop, and make sure Hogan
has something to do in order to stay ahead of WCW’s only home-grown
talent, Bill Goldberg.
Of course, it did pay off, sort of. People who’d grown up with
wrestling and seen the Warrior were interested to see if he still had
it. Plus, to their credit, the Warrior/Hogan match from Wrestlemania 6
is considered one of Hogan’s greater showdowns. So, on August 17th, as
Hogan was in the ring rambling about how he’d beat every giant and every
‘warrior, there just wasn’t anything left for him to do. Which is to
say, the oldest form of introducing a big name. So, the lights start
flashing on and off, Tony apologizes to us
for what appears to be ‘technical difficulties’, and bam! The Warrior
appears at the entrance. As he walks to the ring, you can literally see
Hogan’s bottom jaw quivering. Once he hits the ring, he begins what
would soon to be his trademark [besides vanishing in a cloud of smoke. Yes, I’m serious]
; long-winded, inane, pointless interviews that would constantly throw
the show’s whole time-format off. Coming up, as a treat to you, the transcription of Warrior’s debut. Unfortunately, it’s no longer on youtube. A travesty.
Warrior: You need to open your eyes and ears, take
control of the limited ability you have to understand the words I am
about to say. For years, I have watched while this industry, with you as
it’s figurehead, try to recreate what is simply unrecreatable. I have
heard, listened to all the innuendos and speculation that something
ULTIMATE or WARRIOR may soon re-appear. Welcome to the reappearance!
Those things, Hogan, which are irreplaceable, whether they be people,
places, or things, are never forgotten. You are witnessing that RIGHT
NOW! History tells us, Hogan…[the crowd starts to chant ‘Hogan sucks!’ the Warrior signals for them to hault] Let’s talk about something he doesn’t know.
History tells us, Hogan, that a man’s legacy is built from the
premise that within his life, the moments lived, once lived, become a
piece of his history. Somehow, you have conveniently, even eloquently
misplaced pieces of your history. In the one time, epical battle between
us, Hogan, you were the quintessential influence of what was good,
great, and heroic. But different than you may remember, and albeit you
may have beaten myths, legends, giants, and other great men, you NEVER,
NEVER beat a warrior. AND, CERTAINLY, NOT THE ULTIMATE ONE! As the
victor of that one time battle, I defeated what was, until then,
undefeatable. I conquered what was then unconquerable. I dominated what
was, until then, indomitable. On that day, you were great. I WAS
ULTIMATE! Let me introduce myself…to those two fools that stand behind
you. Let’s see, this …dude [the Disciple]…must be your barber [I’ll give it to him, a some what clever remark]. And who are you, little man? Who are you?
Eric Bischoff: You know who I am. My name is Eric Bischoff and I run this company and who invited you?
Warrior: Different than you wanna make people believe, I never received an invitation. I showed up on my own accord [wouldn’t
it be funny if he seriously meant his Honda Accord? Like the Warrior is
just bombing around in a beat up Honda Accord, wearing the face paint
and jacket. And the hood has his little symbol painted on it. Plus,
there’s a bumper sticker that reads “My Child Is An Honor Student At
Warrior University” and “I Don’t Break For Queer’n!”]. And let me
tell you, Mr. Eric Bischoff, if you stick your nose in my business, you
will only very quickly prepare for your own demise. Furthermore, when I
get done with my business here, I’m gonna be sending you a bill. I
suggest you pay it. I have…waited…patiently. The WARRIORS have waited
all too patiently. Now…NOW…the virtue of justice unties my hands so that
I can continue to fulfill a destiny set in motion on that memorable day
years ago. A destiny at the next level. A destiny beckoning the next
superhero. There really is no sadder sight than when a grown man fears
the challenges in his life so much that he rationalizes adolescent
behavior to the point where he carries out heinous and self-indulgent
actions. Your evilness, an evilness you embodied and portray, is
intolerable. I am the one that has the power to destroy you. In sorts,
Hogan, the truth is inexhaustible. I come here, not to beat you up
tonight, Hogan. Beating you means nothing anymore, everybody already
has. [so, that’s why you wanna pay money to see us fight, right? Because it means nothing. Makes sense to me!]
No no no no no no no no no, that’s too easy. Because you felt guilty
for being who you were. Your mind became weak, and Hulkamania became
boring. I come here, Hogan, to tell you—NEXT WEEK—I intend to launch a
revolution not even you can control. I ask you to find the courage—check
it out. Next week. Same Warrior time. Same Warrior place. Same Warrior
Tony Schiavone: He has vanished! Ladies and
gentlemen, in one of the most mind-boggling and incredible displays that
we’ve ever witnessed on this program, the Warrior has literally
vaporized before our very eyes.
Bobby Heenan: Never seen anything like this in my life.
Tony Schiavone: There’s never been anything like this in our sport!
Seriously. Schiavone had to scream about as if this truly was the
most amazing thing he’d ever seen. Funny thing, he’s such an
idiot that he probably believed that all of this was real. Poor Heenan.
At least his quote could be taken as “I’ve never seen anything like this
in my life, because it’s so stupid, who would believe it?”
Eric Bishoff said he brought Warrior in because at the time, WCW was
really rolling strong. Plus, there’d always been a strong interest in
established characters. And he was not, despite rumor, brought in just
to lose to Hogan. So, since everyone knew Warrior from their childhood,
they tuned in to see if he still had it. He also mentioned how once he
got talking, he just went into business for himself, and that he [Eric] and
Hogan didn’t want to look at each other, because the crowd would see
that they had no idea what was going on. Hogan stated that they’d self
destructed, and Vince must be laughing.
I, personally, was some what interested, I’ll admit. I was a Warrior
fan growing up, so I was interested in seeing what they’d do. Plus, I
knew someone was bound to screw up and say Ultimate Warrior, instead of
the OK’d ‘Warrior’. As we all know at this point, but for those few of
you who don’t, Jim Hellwig plays the Ultimate Warrior. That name however
is trademarked by the WWE, so he is unable to use it anywhere else.
It’s how they do business. Well, the Warrior, being ever so smart as he
is, changed his legal name to Warrior. I also believe his last name is
Warrior. So, he’s Mr. Warrior Warrior. He receives bills in the mail to a
Mr. Warrior. When he speaks to lawyers they call him Mr. Warrior. When
he’s kickin’ back poolside with some friends, they just call him
It’s perhaps the most insane thing I’ve ever heard.
But, it worked. It was a huge ratings draw; almost 7 million people watched that train wreck.
JR says he was brought in for the same reason the ‘E brought him in
back in 96’. To re-create the magic that happened back in the late 80’s,
So, seriously. This was how the Warrior made his debut. He was given
about 7 minutes to make this happen, but went about 20 and the ENTIRE
show’s format was thrown out the window. So, now he was now a guy who
wasn’t just screaming short little promos, but blathering on and on and
talking about how beating Hogan doesn’t mean anything, and he’s already
done it. So he does things like this [ranting &
raving] until a cloud of smoke comes and he can disappear. How amazing,
46 minutes of fog with the lights being turned out gives a guy enough
time to disappear, well, at least Schiavone was impressed. Hell, Warrior
could tell Tony about his amazing power to grow from about a foot tall
to 6 feet in only 40 years time and Tony’s head would explode like Scanners.
The announcement he would have next week, the one that no one could
handle, was the nWo spelt backwards. The oWn. One Warrior Nation.
But there were 2 people in his group, not one. The second being the Disciple, with whom The
Warrior kidnapped in a cloud of smoke then appeared in the rafters,
grappling a blow-up doll of some sorts dressed like The Disciple. It’s
even funnier if you think about how this was all booked. It truly means
that there were people, people smart enough to survive on their own who
not only thought the idea, but said aloud to a group of others “we
should have the Ultimate Warrior disappear and reappear in a cloud of
smoke! Oh, and the smoke makes people pass out! The fans will think he’s
a roided-up homosexual genie and buy-rates will go through the ROOF!”
And the people in the room agreed! These people are allowed to drive
cars, raise children, and buy guns! Doesn’t that scare anyone out there?
Anyways, I’m Richard Dawson, so let’s get back to the feud.
Well, naturally, the Warrior, who covers up the fact he’s really
crazy with fake crazy, plays the ‘ultimate’ mind games on Hulk Hogan, as
to get inside his head before their big match. But, before we get to
the final showdown, naturally we need to get these two in the ring, but
not in the big pay-off way you’d expect.
Enter, War Games.
It was to be the first 3-man team WarGames ever, featuring DDP, Hogan, Bret,
Piper, Sting, Warrior, Stevie Ray, Luger, and Kevin Nash. Once almost
everyone, sans the Warrior was in the ring, Hogan used a flap-jack.
Which I believe Hogan just grabbed a sun-glasses bag, and laid
out everyone except Stevie. Did they pin anyone? No. Because then smoke filled the ring, and who should appear? The Warrior, flying a
Stealth Bomber with ‘Hogan is a dork!’ spray-painted on the side. He
shot everyone, then launched a missile, but jumped out of the jet in
time to catch the missile, body slam it, then cover it for the pin.
Schiavone claimed this to be the greatest moment in the history of the
sport. ……actually, no, I’m sorry, that isn’t what happened. Something
even more stupid, and even more unbelievable happened. Smoke filled the
ring, Warrior appeared, Hogan tried to grab him but was only able to snag his jacket. Smoke filled the ring again, this time Warrior was gone, but then appeared from
the dressing room. Yes, they brought back the Renegade for this stupid
little scene. He later killed himself over what people say was
depression from breaking up with his girlfriend. I think it was because
of his involvement with this stupid angle. Anyways, Warrior hits the
ring, Hogan, with the assist from the Disciple, gets out of the cage and
locks it. So, now the Warrior is stuck in there. But, wait….wasn’t he
just in the cage and teleported to the outside? Perhaps a Masterlock padlock is just THAT GOOD. So he instead just screams and barks, and manages to
kick a hole in the cage and escape, followed by Hogan & Warrior doing battle all the way to the back. So far, WCW has paid Warrior a cool mill, and they got 45 seconds of action from him, in which he managed to tear both of his biceps & twist his ankle. Oh, and DDP pinned Stevie in order to earn a shot at Goldberg.
Schiavone: And The Warrior, cannot get to Hogan!
Fall Brawl [the ppv that hosted War Games] was also famous
for another reason. The British Bulldog was in a match and took a
powerslam that had him land on the Warrior’s stupid trapdoor. The
result was a spinal infection that nearly crippled him and had him in
the hospital for 6 months. Of course during this time, WCW sent
their get wall card written on a pink-slip. So, at this point the Dog
got all roided up, addicted to pain-killers, and came back way earlier
than he should have. This, all because the Warrior wanted to make people
believe heroes again. A price I’m sure Bulldog would pay all over again.
Later on a following Nitro, Hogan was in a dressing room, looking for Leslie [The Disciple]. It was probably gimmick change time and he had a good one that crossed an astronaut and a lawn-mower.
They walk in, Hogan says “Where are you man, you idiot!” and Bischoff
looks around with some Waldo esq interest, they banter for a minute
about having just seen him, when Hogan slams on the table in
frustration….then, then it happens. Warrior appears in the mirror!
Tony clearly says “fuck”, marking the only time in his 20 some odd year
career as an announcer he ever said anything interesting or cool. Zonka
says “he’s in the wall!” clearly stating he can see him, Heenan says
“he’s in the mirror” clearly stating he can see him. Hogan screams “ok
brother, I get it, I get the game, I got the number” clearly stating
that he can see him. The crowd pops, clearly stating that they can see
him. Bischoff sits there and says “what? Hogan, what? Why are you so
excited? What?” clearly stating that he’s bat-shit crazy. This goes on
for a minute or so. Bischoff clearly stares RIGHT at the mirror and just
goes on “Who you talking to?” to which Hogan says “The Warrior! Look!”
and Bischoff says “LOOK AT WHAT?! LOOK AT WHAT?!” Hell, even watching
this 10 years later makes me wonder if I’m even seeing the things I do.
The Warrior eventually disappears, yet Hogan is still screaming at the
mirror, and claiming he can see him. The adults who allowed this to be filmed, and shown on national TV were then allowed to drive cars, spend money, and raise children.
I…..I just don’t know who the hell is supposed to be crazy here. I could sure tell you who’s stupid though.
And speaking of stupid, this was all to lead to Warrior fulfilling
his destiny. What’s his destiny you ask? To beat Hogan? Nope. He already
said he wasn’t here to do that, as he already had. To start a
revolution called the oWn? Nope. Already did that. Nope,
his destiny is to beat Hogan. So this all leads to Halloween Havoc ’98, where soon logs would roll, and fireballs would fly. Because I suffer for my art, I’ll give the one and only match review in which I do play-by-play.
Match: Hulk Hogan vs. The Warrior
Place: WCW’s Halloween Havoc – October 25th, 1998
Company: World Championship Wrestling
‘The return match the whole world has been waiting a whole decade for, is out our doorsteps!’ utters Schiavone.
A decade is 10 years. Half a second later, the ring announcers tells us this match is 8 years in the making.
Hogan’s music starts as the Jimi Hendrix tune, Voodoo Child [Chille?
Chillie?], but then a quarter of the way through it, it just stops and
goes into the original nWo music. More Warrior head-games I’m sure. I’m also sure he was behind Regal’s musical rib during that match in Europe. As he makes his
way to the ring, we get a recap from last week’s Nitro where Hogan hits
his nephew with a chair, and Tony tells us it’s something that’s as
vicious as anything we’ve seen in pro-wrestling. It’s true, when I first saw the act I wondered how WCW was allowed to air Terry Funk vs Mick Foley – King of the Deathmatch.
It’s Warrior Time, baby! Wow, he’s breathing like he ran to the arena. Wouldn’t surprise me, to be honest.
WCW: Warrior, we’ve arranged a car to take you to the arena.
Warrior: A car? What is a car, more than a vessel to
take you to places, where’s I, I am the same! Hop on my back and I’ll
piggy-back you to the arena!
At this point he rushes off to the sound of him going “wooooosh”.
They talk about how great their respective builds are, and how that makes them two of the greatest of all time. Sure.
Warrior starts the match with a punch. They circle, collar and elbow
tie up leads to Hogan kneeing the Warrior in the mid-section, then
dropping about twenty fore-arms to the back. Twists the arm 3 times.
Then Warrior twists the arm and Hogan sells it like Warrior ripped his
arm off and beat him in an arm-wrestling contest with it. After this
Hogan drops out of the ring, and walks around to calm down. Back in.
Warrior wants a test of strength. So after he begs him for a test of
strength, they collar and elbow. To the corner, Hogan rocks a bunch of
forearms, a bunch of clumsy mish-mash and Hogan gets a choke or
something like it, then drops the boots a couple of times. He grabs
Warrior’s arm and bends it up above the turnbuckle, then drags him out
for a test of strength. Stomps the mid-section of the Warrior a couple
more times. They’re basically intentionally recreating their famous
test-of-strength from WM6. Warrior mounts the comeback, Hogan kicks him
and sends him back to his knees. Hogan laughs like a villain. Warrior
back up. Arm twist again. Warrior reverses it. Hogan whips him, then
Hogan runs the ropes with a criss-cross. Hogan stops and body-slams him. Warrior gets right back up from this
bomb-shell and does the same. Then sends him outside with a clumsy
clothesline and Hogan acts like death is at his door. Warrior follows.
Face smash to the guard-rail. Hogan rakes the eyes. Smashes Warrior’s
face on the rail. Warrior smashes Hogan’s face on the rail. Warrior then
smashes Hogan’s face on the turnbuckle pole. Back in. Warrior goes for a
clothesline, Hogan ducks it, comes back with one of his own, Warrior
drops, Hogan hits the ref. Then drops a knee on him, whoops. Hogan slugs
Warrior, and ties him up in the ropes. Pulls him out and calls for some
help. Here comes the Giant. Hogan holds Warrior, Giant comes in, rocks
the boot, hits Hogan. Warrior follows with a clothesline and out goes
Giant. He hits the rest of the nWo, and they scoured. Goes for a pin,
but there isn’t a ref. He goes to wake him up, only to get a Hogan
forearm to the back for his efforts. Then he puts Warrior’s arm over his
head, as if to back-suplex him, but then just sits there for like, 2
seconds. As if both dudes were so winded from this crap that they
couldn’t even execute the most simplest of moves. But that couldn’t be.
Hogan rocks the impossible-plex and goes for the pin. Warrior manages to
kick-out. Hogan then drives the knees into Warrior’s back. He picks him
up, and kinda punches him, then chokes him. Backs off. Hogan takes the
belt off and starts to whip Warrior. Who flails around the ring like
he’s being electrocuted and accidentally kicks the ref. It’s damn funny
to see. He chokes Warrior. The ref pulls him off. Hogan fish-hooks him.
Back in the middle, a body slam. Hogan misses an elbow. Goes for it
again, Warrior rolls out of the way, Hogan gets back up only to find the
Warrior isn’t the Warrior anymore! But a log of sheer rolling
destruction. The Log comes at Hogan at a break-neck speed, and instead
of stepping to the left, or the right, the Log takes out Hogan’s feet.
Sorta. Hogan stumbles. Tony saves the day by calling it a rolling block.
Flair and Steamboat get the itch. Back up. Warrior clubs Hogan, sending
him to the ground. Tries the splash, misses it. Hogan picks him back
up, they trade blows, and Hogan stumbles and falls. Warrior takes off
Hogan’s belt, and it’s odd-looking. He whips Hogan. Warrior makes a fist
out of the belt and slugs Hogan. Back up, Hogan pulls out a baggie with
like a hundred things in it. He throws paper at the Warrior, who
deflects it, thank God. The flash paper then lights up in Hogan’s hand.
Warrior slugs Hogan, then goes to the corner to investigate. He stomps
out Hogan’s little scheme and takes him back to the middle of the ring.
At this point, you can audibly hear Warrior say to Hogan “you’re fucking
it up”. Yup. That botched fireball really did it. Warrior goes up, hits
Hogan with a double ax-handle, but only gets one fist. Tries it again,
but just ends up patting Hogan on the head. Hogan low-blows Warrior,
hits a weak clothesline, and rocks the leg-drop. Here comes Horace. With
no stitches. Hogan misses the second leg-drop. Warrior hulks-up. Hogan
can’t stop it. Three clotheslines and Hogan’s down. Bischoff comes over
and gets the ref in a head-lock. Horace is slower than all-hell and
Bischoff holds the ref for about 10 times longer than expected. Horace
is ready to give Hogan the receipt. But instead hits Warrior with the
WEAKEST…I repeat….the WEAKEST chair shot to the center of Warrior’s
back. I mean, the center of his back. Tony screams that Warrior got
blasted in the back of the head. Might as well have, because Warrior
sells it like he got blasted with a shot-gun. We get the 1….we get the
2….we get the 3. My goodness. Well, at least the ridiculousness is
over…..oh no wait. They douse Warrior in lighter-fluid, and attempt to
murder him in the middle of the ring. No such luck. Office heads come in
and muck the plan up.
Bish’ says he agrees with the critics, in that it’s one of the worst
matches ever. That Hulk is one of the most entertaining, and charismatic
performers he’s ever seen, but when it comes to wrestling he has a
certain style. If you compliment it, then things can happen.
However, Warrior couldn’t compliment a damn thing. Hogan takes blame for
the fireball idea. Stating that Warrior’s character was so off the
wall, that he needed to do something like this. The idea was for Warrior
to make a blind come back. Well, the lighter wouldn’t work at first,
then when it did, it burnt off his eye brows, and a good portion of his
Mean Gene states that the timing was so off, he was surprised they didn’t just re-start the match.
So Warrior, after a near death experience, comes back on Nitro to deliver this;
WCW’s Monday Nitro – 10.26.1998
Warrior: Last night, Hogan, you had the opportunity to
face the challenge, like a man! And you failed! Last night, Hogan, you
had the opportunity to set a fire, with but one match, what will now
haunt you forever! You see, Hogan, there’s a difference between beating
someone up, and genuinely having beat a man. And the whole world of
warriors knows, I beat the hell out of you last night! And the bullshit
pin-fall, doesn’t change it! You, have opened a door, to the Warrior’s
hell! And I, am it’s gatekeeper! The time is near, same Warrior time,
same Warrior place, same Warrior channel!
To which Hogan then comes down, and looks to enter. But Horace won’t
let him get in. They don’t want him to get in. None of us do. Horace
goes in, and takes a couple of Warrior’s HUGE swinging punches.
Seriously, he could paint a house in 2 minutes with how wide he swings
his punches. The Giant misses with a clothesline and a big boot, then
he’s sent out. Hogan comes in, gets a couple punches, Warrior ducks it
and hits Hogan in the shin with a flying shoulder block.
Tenay: That’s way you jump-start a revolution in pro-wrestling!
Is it, Mike? By getting beat, coming out and saying there’s a
difference in beating someone up, and beating someone, and saying you
beat the hell outta someone, and the fact they beat you doesn’t change
that they beat….so, wait, where was I? That’s right, stay outta my booze, boy.
After that, they had a match about a week later that was Warrior
& Sting vs. Hogan & Bret. Warrior did absolutely nothing but
stand there with his stupid jacket on, and that was it. After this, he
vanished like so many unfortunate smoky-haze-induced Nitros. Some say it
was contract disputes or something, but what’s to dispute? He got a
million dollars to do this. Yes, they paid a man 1 million dollars for
Hogan says despite all this, they wanted to do something long-term.
Such as storylines, merchandise, and all the fun-stuff that comes with
pro-wrestling. However, Warrior was asking for some Hogan type money.
Sure, Hulk doesn’t say that, but it’s basically what he means. Plus,
people knew his reputation for not delivering. So, they told him to turn
into a puff of smoke and vanish up his own ass. Well, those weren’t
the exact words, but it would have been cool if they were.
In the end, 1 million dollars brought us two of the worst matches in
history. Some of the most inane promos and back stage vignettes, a major
nail in WCW’s coffin, as well as the passing of Davey Boy Smith. Money
well spent, guys.
I’ve got a WWE DVD review coming up, but after that you guys decide, do you want me to review Money In The Bank 2012, or Spring Stampede 1999? Choice is yours, so, spend a couple days before you cast your vote. Till then, you can find me at the following….
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Long time listener, first time caller.
Right now the raging debate on message boards (at least the debates NOT centered on Daniel Bryan or Brock Lesnar) seems to focus on just how super or un-super Cena was during his run as the man. Most of the defense of Cena seems to center around his position being similar/identical to that of Rock's or Stone Cold's. The Pro-Cena people argue that while they were top faces, both Rock and Stone Cold did not have to job (cleanly) and that Cena is just fulfilling the character arc set down by Hogan or Rock. Also they argue that Anti-Cena people are butt hurt. That salient point comes up a lot.
I know you have said that Stone Cold Jobbed plenty, but putting wins and losses aside, I would argue that the reason most people got so very sick of John Cena has more to do with a lack of good feuds. A good feud does not just show up in the win column, it also reveals a new side of the players involved. HHH vs Rock showed that HHH was a politicking bastard, above nothing in his pursuit of the title, and it showed that Rock was willing to take obscene punishment and humiliation to achieve his goal. Corporate Rock vs Mick Foley provided sympathy for the stubborn Foley and showed that the Rock's God Given magnetism could be used for evil as well as good. It also allowed the Rock to reveal that he was still nursing his ego from "Die Rocky, Die." If you look at the Austin from Austin v McMahon and compare it to the Austin from the two man power trip, it's two different people. One is a red neck SOB who's proud of his shit kicking life, and the other is a paranoid coward who's only sense of worth comes from the titles he carries to the ring (Austin's acting during two man power trip was Method Acting on par with some of the greats).
So that long winded intro brings me to my question: In the time I stopped watching WWE (2005-2011) did John Cena have any memorable feuds that revealed new facets to his character? And by new facets I don't mean his ability to rise above the hate, or his ability to become less visible. This is not to start a war, I'm genuinely curious as I see nothing interesting about Cena, and would really like to know if I'm missing something.
Other than that…uh…Daniel Bryan, Brock Lesnar, Purple Monkey Dishwasher.