Being the Marty Jannetty

Good morning, Scott –


We know the phrase in wrestling in being “the Marty Jannetty” of a tag team – but besides Jannetty, who else qualifies for that term?

A lot of tag team breakups didn’t lead to major success for either person – but I can think of a few off the top:


Stevie Ray (Booker T)

Scotty Riggs (Buff)

Charlie Haas (Shelton Benjamin)


You could throw Bart Gunn into the mix, but I’m not sure if “New Age Outlaws” Billy Gunn counts since it was another tag team.


Who else qualifies as being the Jannetty of a team?


Bart Gunn.  John Kronus in a sense.  

Wrong Time and Place Tag Teams

Curious if you think there are any tag teams, from otherwise mediocre to bad eras, that would have been remembered or loved if they wrestled another time or place?

Like, were any of those mid-90s WWF teams worthwhile and just stuck with mediocre competition? Would the Smoking Gunns get any fandom if they had the Hart Foundation, Demolition or Bulldogs to go at it with? 

Nooooo.  The Gunns only survived the first couple of years because there was literally no other teams to be in the mix.  They’d be the Moondogs by comparison in there with those other teams.  The 90s were just bad.  Although Kid and Marty could have been something without their other issues.  

Blog of DOOM Daily Thread – 16th October 2021

Happy Saturday Everyone!

Suzuki Vs Danielson was everything I wanted it to be and a definite “must-watch” for any of you wrasslin’ fans out there. The Sports Entertainment crowd might not enjoy it as much, but hey, like what you like.

Halfway through the Sydal/Punk match on Rampage whilst writing this Saturday morning, so no news bits just in case something gets spoiled for me.

Belt The Hangman!

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Rampage – October 15, 2021

Date: October 15, 2021
Location: James L. Knight Center, Miami, Florida
Commentators: Excalibur, Ricky Starks, Taz

This is another special edition of the show as we have a bonus first hour airing on YouTube, which seems to be retaliation for WWE running an extra half hour of Smackdown this week. The bonus hour will feature Bryan Danielson vs. Minoru Suzuki while the regular show has CM Punk against Matt Sydal. Let’s get to it.

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Smackdown – October 15, 2021 (Supersized Smackdown)

Date: October 15, 2021
Location: Toyota Arena, Ontario, California
Commentators: Michael Cole, Pat McAfee

We’re in a unique situation as this is the go home Smackdown for a pay per view but there is one more Raw to go. Crown Jewel is in less than a week with Brock Lesnar challenging Roman Reigns for the Universal Title. Lesnar is here tonight as part of the special Supersized show. Let’s get to it.

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Friday Night Get-Down: October 15, 2021

TONIGHT!  SmackDown is loaded!  The KOTR and QC tournaments get semifinals!  Becky and Sasha one on one!  The Usos defend again against the Street Profits!  And we make Roman vs Brock official!

MEANWHILE TONIGHT! AEW is going to YouTube!  Bryan Danielson vs Minoru Suzuki and Bobby Fish vs Lee Moriarty!

AND THEN!  Rampage follows on TV!  CM Punk vs Matt Sydal is your headliner, and it will be commercial free!  PLUS — American Top Team against the Inner Circle!

SATURDAY!  You thought we were done?  Bring on Dynamite!  Danielson and Fish!  Malakai Black vs Dante Martin!  And who is in the tournament for a title shot?

MEANWHILE!  The ALCS and NLCS on major networks!  NHL season begins!  NFL and college football!  WHAT A WEEKEND!

But first… as always, here it is: Your Moment of Zen.

All right, folks, we went over the rules.  Obey the moderators’ instructions at all times.  I expect a good, clean thread.  Now — touch gloves, go to your keyboards, and come out posting!



Impact Wrestling – October 14, 2021

Impact Wrestling
Date: October 14, 2021
Location: Skyway Studios, Nashville, Tennessee
Commentators: Josh Matthews, D’Lo Brown

We’re less than two weeks away from Bound For Glory and that means it is time to really hammer home the stories. Most of the card is set, save for the final spot in the X-Division Title match. Things have been going well as of late and I’m actually interested in where the show goes. Keeping that up is not going to easy but maybe they can make it work. Let’s get to it.

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What the World Was Watching: WWF Wrestling Challenge – July 15, 1990

Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan do announce duties for today’s show, which kicks off a new round of television tapings in Huntington, West Virginia.  According to, the taping took place on June 26.

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Max Mini and the Owen Hart tragedy.

Hi Scott,

I’ve just come across a story claim from Meltzer that could be just bullshit but it’s so specific that it’s worth a discussion.

Basically the original plan for Over The Edge 1999 was for Owen Hart dressed as The Blue Blazer to carry Max Mini dressed as a miniature Blue Blazer.

This means that if the original plan had gone ahead there might have been two fatalities that night.

Interestingly what Meltzer claims saved Max Mini’s life was that Owen no showed the practice sessions earlier in the day, where they were showing him how to get in and out of the harness safely.  So when Owen finally turned up WWE simplified the stunt so it was less for Owen to learn in such a short space of time.

Is this story one you have heard of before & do you believe it?


Definitely a new one on me.  

Missed resurgence

Who’s a wrestler, deceased or otherwise out of the business, who you think could be having a resurgence right now thanks to how the wrestling world is shaking out?
Diesel, because he was already used to headlining for 3000 people as World champion. 

When will enough be enough?

How long does it take for people to tire of arguing the same dumb bullshit day-after-day about the same damn thing? It must get boring eventually to bring up the same points of argument that fall on deaf ears because it's the same 2-3 people on either side who don't know how to compromise. Same goes for the emails that are 10 paragraphs long just to stir the pot. Is there nothing else? Have we scraped the bottom of the barrel of all reasonable discussion that EVERY DAY is AEW vs WWE Battlegrounds? HAVE WE NO SHAME?! 


WWE sucks. Tony Khan paid me to type that.
Just wait until the video games come out.  BLOOD IN THE STREETS.  I’m there for it.  

The SmarK Rant for Coliseum Video presents Crunch Classics

The SmarK Rant for WWF Coliseum Video presents Crunch Classic

Just trawling through the redone WWE Network for content and I found this one in the Coliseum Video collection.  I don’t think I’ve ever done it before, either in the classic Coliseum rants or the modern era, so let’s give it a look!

Released 05.28.92

Hosted by Rowdy Roddy Piper, all hopped up on, let’s say Red Bull.

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Blog of DOOM Daily Thread – 15th October 2021

Happy Friday Everyone!

I’ve given up on FIFA 22 for the time being. They seemed to have put as much thought into Career Mode as WWE has with this Queen of the Ring tournament. Back to Rocket League for my footy fix I guess.

Belt The Hangman! (I’ll be saying this a lot within the next few weeks I think)

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NXT UK – October 14, 2021

Date: October 14, 2021
Location: BT Sports Studios, London, England
Commentators: Nigel McGuinness, Andy Shepherd

It’s championship week as Ilja Dragunov is back to defend the United Kingdom Title against A-Kid. That has all the makings of a great match, but more importantly, there will be a crowd here for the first time in WAY too long as the United Kingdom has started to lighten their Coronavirus restrictions. Let’s get to it.

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Impact, Indies, and Insanity: October 15, 2021

Tonight on IMPACT: Christian Cage and Josh Alexander have a summit (whatever that means); Chris Bey takes on Chris Sabin; El Phantasmo, Rohit Raju, and Willie Mack attempt to qualify for the X Division Championship match at Bound For Glory; Lady Frost gets another chance, but against Savannah Evans; Rich Swann takes on Brian Myers’ pupil VSK; and the 20 entrants in the Call Your Shot Gauntlet match meet in a battle royal — winner enters last, but 2nd place enters first!

Meanwhile in sports: your NFL Game of the Week of the Day, the Buccaneers face the Eagles; it’s Winner Take All in the NLDS between the Dodgers and the Giants; and Navy faces Memphis in college football on ESPN.

Meanwhile in the indies:

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All Shook Up

What a difference a week makes. Last week Tony was on top of the world, tweeting about how he can't wait to beat smackdown when they go head to head Friday. His big shot was the talk of the IWC even though he didn't actually have the guts to tag anyone in his “bold” tweet, he just weirdly say you. But then the rampage ratings came out and WWE announced the last 30 mins of smackdown were commercial free. It seemed like Tony got straight rattled and is working frazzled.

He has spent all week talking about WWE anywhere he was interviewed, way more than normal. “Raw sucked last week, we have the best weekly show, blah blah blah”. He gets pictured at Jaguars game with the lineup for Full Gear scribbled out on his notepad with Hangman circled. Out of nowhere he announces a buy in show, which makes zero sense cause it doesn't lead to a show you have to buy which generally is the purpose of that kind of show. Puts it on youtube which will have zero effect on taking any ratings from smackdown since it's again its on youtube. And then gives away a big DB match that caters perfectly to AEW crowd and probably would of been a nice rating on a TV show. Which why not move the Bobby Fish match up, I don't think anyone is dying to watch that on TV anyway. And when did Bobby Fish become this big draw anyway, he also has a match on the buy in. Which poor Lee Moriarty is doing the job because you know….well that's a topic for another day. 

On top of this now he is saying well it doesn't matter who wins this weekend, we just got to worry about putting on out the best show. But Tony was the one who said it did matter and they were gonna beat smackdown. So does the abysmal rampage ratings and WWE directly or indirectly trying to mess with AEW have him shook? He has he internet dweebs like voices of wrestling out here trying to defend him, saying wwe is releasing rampages overnight ratings to make them look bad. We also have sneakergate cause it was so offensive that Top Dolla made jokes about all the focus on AEW and expensive sneakers, which isn't allowed b/c top dollar hasn't drawn money. Maybe TK wasn't really ready for the smoke?

I know your response will just be “looks like Tony has you SHOOK” but curious on the blogs thoughts?

Looks like Tony has you SHOOK.