Hogan v. Montreal

Heard something I would love to hear you respond to.  On a recent episode of the “steve czaban” radio show, Hulk Hogan appeared and was asked about the Montreal incident.  His response was “that we all have jobs, and we show up and do those jobs.  Bret showed up and said he wasn’t going to do his job.”
My first reaction was to laugh.  Then laugh some more.  And then…. laugh a lot more.
But then I did think about Hogan’s departure from WWF(E).  He did basically let Yoko squash him.  Including getting defeated with his own move and selling it on his way back to the locker room.
So my question is this: Do I laugh at absurdity of Hogan stance of someone else doing the job?  Or accept it for the way he did the job when he left?

Yeah, well, Hogan refused to do the job for Bret Hart in the first place, which is why they had to swap in Yoko, so he’s got no leg to stand on there.  Bret was more than happy to do the job for Shawn Michaels or anyone else down to Steve Lombardi, just not on THAT show.  It could have been the night before or the night after and then Vince could have done whatever he wanted with the title. 

Hogan v. Montreal

Heard something I would love to hear you respond to.  On a recent episode of the “steve czaban” radio show, Hulk Hogan appeared and was asked about the Montreal incident.  His response was “that we all have jobs, and we show up and do those jobs.  Bret showed up and said he wasn’t going to do his job.”
My first reaction was to laugh.  Then laugh some more.  And then…. laugh a lot more.
But then I did think about Hogan’s departure from WWF(E).  He did basically let Yoko squash him.  Including getting defeated with his own move and selling it on his way back to the locker room.
So my question is this: Do I laugh at absurdity of Hogan stance of someone else doing the job?  Or accept it for the way he did the job when he left?

Yeah, well, Hogan refused to do the job for Bret Hart in the first place, which is why they had to swap in Yoko, so he’s got no leg to stand on there.  Bret was more than happy to do the job for Shawn Michaels or anyone else down to Steve Lombardi, just not on THAT show.  It could have been the night before or the night after and then Vince could have done whatever he wanted with the title. 

Bloggie Awards?

Hey Scott, Since there aren’t any more RSPW awards, I was wondering (and hoping) if you might publish or post your own personal list of RSPW-esque awards for 2011 (Best Wrestler, Best Worker, Feud of the Year, etc.). I know you don’t follow wrestling as extensively in the past, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d dig reading whatever list you put together.

OK, I’m game.  Do you guys want me just to pick winners, or should I do a list of nominees and let people vote all democratic-like?  And do we just go with Observer-standard categories?

Bloggie Awards?

Hey Scott, Since there aren’t any more RSPW awards, I was wondering (and hoping) if you might publish or post your own personal list of RSPW-esque awards for 2011 (Best Wrestler, Best Worker, Feud of the Year, etc.). I know you don’t follow wrestling as extensively in the past, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d dig reading whatever list you put together.

OK, I’m game.  Do you guys want me just to pick winners, or should I do a list of nominees and let people vote all democratic-like?  And do we just go with Observer-standard categories?

Bloggie Awards?

Hey Scott, Since there aren’t any more RSPW awards, I was wondering (and hoping) if you might publish or post your own personal list of RSPW-esque awards for 2011 (Best Wrestler, Best Worker, Feud of the Year, etc.). I know you don’t follow wrestling as extensively in the past, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d dig reading whatever list you put together.

OK, I’m game.  Do you guys want me just to pick winners, or should I do a list of nominees and let people vote all democratic-like?  And do we just go with Observer-standard categories?

Bloggie Awards?

Hey Scott, Since there aren’t any more RSPW awards, I was wondering (and hoping) if you might publish or post your own personal list of RSPW-esque awards for 2011 (Best Wrestler, Best Worker, Feud of the Year, etc.). I know you don’t follow wrestling as extensively in the past, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d dig reading whatever list you put together.

OK, I’m game.  Do you guys want me just to pick winners, or should I do a list of nominees and let people vote all democratic-like?  And do we just go with Observer-standard categories?

Rock/Cena

From this point on, how would you book Rock/Cena feud going into Wrestlemania?  How would you change the booking starting with February last year (keeping in mind the Rock’s limited availability)? Also, would you ever make the Rock a weekly on air performer (if for some reason he wanted to)? I feel even if he wanted to show up every week, it would take away alot more than it would gain.

I would have kept him off TV completely except to come on one show and lay out Cena leading up to Survivor Series. I would have had Cena’s team v. Rock’s team and eliminated everyone until it was down to Rock v. Cena.  Then before they can touch, someone (Ziggler, wanting to show up the big stars?) comes out and lays out Cena, Rock pins him, end of show.  So that occupies Cena for a few shows while Rock is back in Hollywood again.  Cena would finally go over at Wrestlemania, when it actually matters.  I wouldn’t trust the monkeys writing RAW to handle Rock from week to week and would keep him off TV as much as possible, so he wouldn’t flop and only draw 160,000 domestic buys for his first match back.  Oh wait, that already happened.

Rock/Cena

From this point on, how would you book Rock/Cena feud going into Wrestlemania?  How would you change the booking starting with February last year (keeping in mind the Rock’s limited availability)? Also, would you ever make the Rock a weekly on air performer (if for some reason he wanted to)? I feel even if he wanted to show up every week, it would take away alot more than it would gain.

I would have kept him off TV completely except to come on one show and lay out Cena leading up to Survivor Series. I would have had Cena’s team v. Rock’s team and eliminated everyone until it was down to Rock v. Cena.  Then before they can touch, someone (Ziggler, wanting to show up the big stars?) comes out and lays out Cena, Rock pins him, end of show.  So that occupies Cena for a few shows while Rock is back in Hollywood again.  Cena would finally go over at Wrestlemania, when it actually matters.  I wouldn’t trust the monkeys writing RAW to handle Rock from week to week and would keep him off TV as much as possible, so he wouldn’t flop and only draw 160,000 domestic buys for his first match back.  Oh wait, that already happened.

Rock/Cena

From this point on, how would you book Rock/Cena feud going into Wrestlemania?  How would you change the booking starting with February last year (keeping in mind the Rock’s limited availability)? Also, would you ever make the Rock a weekly on air performer (if for some reason he wanted to)? I feel even if he wanted to show up every week, it would take away alot more than it would gain.

I would have kept him off TV completely except to come on one show and lay out Cena leading up to Survivor Series. I would have had Cena’s team v. Rock’s team and eliminated everyone until it was down to Rock v. Cena.  Then before they can touch, someone (Ziggler, wanting to show up the big stars?) comes out and lays out Cena, Rock pins him, end of show.  So that occupies Cena for a few shows while Rock is back in Hollywood again.  Cena would finally go over at Wrestlemania, when it actually matters.  I wouldn’t trust the monkeys writing RAW to handle Rock from week to week and would keep him off TV as much as possible, so he wouldn’t flop and only draw 160,000 domestic buys for his first match back.  Oh wait, that already happened.

Rock/Cena

From this point on, how would you book Rock/Cena feud going into Wrestlemania?  How would you change the booking starting with February last year (keeping in mind the Rock’s limited availability)? Also, would you ever make the Rock a weekly on air performer (if for some reason he wanted to)? I feel even if he wanted to show up every week, it would take away alot more than it would gain.

I would have kept him off TV completely except to come on one show and lay out Cena leading up to Survivor Series. I would have had Cena’s team v. Rock’s team and eliminated everyone until it was down to Rock v. Cena.  Then before they can touch, someone (Ziggler, wanting to show up the big stars?) comes out and lays out Cena, Rock pins him, end of show.  So that occupies Cena for a few shows while Rock is back in Hollywood again.  Cena would finally go over at Wrestlemania, when it actually matters.  I wouldn’t trust the monkeys writing RAW to handle Rock from week to week and would keep him off TV as much as possible, so he wouldn’t flop and only draw 160,000 domestic buys for his first match back.  Oh wait, that already happened.

Underrated

Scott, I was just watching some of Halloween Havoc 1990 on YouTube, and had forgotten how good that show was.  You had great matches in Steiners-Nasty Boys, Horsemen-Doom, Hansen-Luger, and even Sting-Sid and Midnight Express-Morton/Rich has the crowd on their feet.  It seems like this is one of the forgotten great PPVs.  Any more that come to mind?

Merry Christmas, all!  I really wouldn’t call Havoc 90 underrated.  Steiners-Nasties was a good brawl but the rest was pretty forgettable.  I think the 89 show was more underrated, with an awesome Flair/Sting v. Funk/Muta main event and Luger/Pillman underneath. I think WM 19 doesn’t get the love it probably deserves, either.  You got Shawn-Jericho, Angle-Lesnar, Austin-Rock…hell of a show. 

Underrated

Scott, I was just watching some of Halloween Havoc 1990 on YouTube, and had forgotten how good that show was.  You had great matches in Steiners-Nasty Boys, Horsemen-Doom, Hansen-Luger, and even Sting-Sid and Midnight Express-Morton/Rich has the crowd on their feet.  It seems like this is one of the forgotten great PPVs.  Any more that come to mind?

Merry Christmas, all!  I really wouldn’t call Havoc 90 underrated.  Steiners-Nasties was a good brawl but the rest was pretty forgettable.  I think the 89 show was more underrated, with an awesome Flair/Sting v. Funk/Muta main event and Luger/Pillman underneath. I think WM 19 doesn’t get the love it probably deserves, either.  You got Shawn-Jericho, Angle-Lesnar, Austin-Rock…hell of a show. 

Underrated

Scott, I was just watching some of Halloween Havoc 1990 on YouTube, and had forgotten how good that show was.  You had great matches in Steiners-Nasty Boys, Horsemen-Doom, Hansen-Luger, and even Sting-Sid and Midnight Express-Morton/Rich has the crowd on their feet.  It seems like this is one of the forgotten great PPVs.  Any more that come to mind?

Merry Christmas, all!  I really wouldn’t call Havoc 90 underrated.  Steiners-Nasties was a good brawl but the rest was pretty forgettable.  I think the 89 show was more underrated, with an awesome Flair/Sting v. Funk/Muta main event and Luger/Pillman underneath. I think WM 19 doesn’t get the love it probably deserves, either.  You got Shawn-Jericho, Angle-Lesnar, Austin-Rock…hell of a show. 

Underrated

Scott, I was just watching some of Halloween Havoc 1990 on YouTube, and had forgotten how good that show was.  You had great matches in Steiners-Nasty Boys, Horsemen-Doom, Hansen-Luger, and even Sting-Sid and Midnight Express-Morton/Rich has the crowd on their feet.  It seems like this is one of the forgotten great PPVs.  Any more that come to mind?

Merry Christmas, all!  I really wouldn’t call Havoc 90 underrated.  Steiners-Nasties was a good brawl but the rest was pretty forgettable.  I think the 89 show was more underrated, with an awesome Flair/Sting v. Funk/Muta main event and Luger/Pillman underneath. I think WM 19 doesn’t get the love it probably deserves, either.  You got Shawn-Jericho, Angle-Lesnar, Austin-Rock…hell of a show. 

Biggest Matches

Not sure which superlative I should be using, but it dawned on me while watching Survivor Series that R-Truth had the most important/biggest match of his career.  Hell, Miz too, moreso than the WM main event.  And while we’re at it, Cena will have his in next March.  But what about Rock? What about Austin? What about Triple H? What about Flair? Taker? Bret? Shawn? Nash?  Hall?  Angle? Funk?   Some I think are no brainers: Foley, HIAC.  Hogan’s, I’d assume, was III against Andre, and in reverse.  Goldberg, versus Hogan on Nitro. Big Show, against Mayweather; the same breath, Bam Bam, against LT.  CM Punk, I’d say Money In The Bank.
Your logical thoughts on this?

Interesting topic. I don’t think Miz has had his yet.  They’ll find something bigger for him, I’m pretty sure.  Rock:  I’m gonna go outside the box and say HHH at Backlash 2000.  It was really the culmination of his entire babyface turn in 1999 and provided the logical payoff for the entire year.  He never had another bigger “big bad heel against virtuous babyface” because the Austin match was two babyfaces and ended badly for him anyway.  Austin:  Wrestlemania XV.  They made so much money in 99-2000 off Austin that they were able to take the company public, and this is the real start of it.  98 was a bunch of stop and start title reigns for him, but after he beat the Rock he was clearly the guy with the belt. HHH:  Royal Rumble 2000.  He went from here to HERE in one fell swoop. Flair:  Royal Rumble 92, duh. Undertaker:  I think the Shawn Michaels match at Wrestlemania was pretty big, but HIAC against Foley of course was a hugely legendary match for a variety of reasons.  Tough call.

Biggest Matches

Not sure which superlative I should be using, but it dawned on me while watching Survivor Series that R-Truth had the most important/biggest match of his career.  Hell, Miz too, moreso than the WM main event.  And while we’re at it, Cena will have his in next March.  But what about Rock? What about Austin? What about Triple H? What about Flair? Taker? Bret? Shawn? Nash?  Hall?  Angle? Funk?   Some I think are no brainers: Foley, HIAC.  Hogan’s, I’d assume, was III against Andre, and in reverse.  Goldberg, versus Hogan on Nitro. Big Show, against Mayweather; the same breath, Bam Bam, against LT.  CM Punk, I’d say Money In The Bank.
Your logical thoughts on this?

Interesting topic. I don’t think Miz has had his yet.  They’ll find something bigger for him, I’m pretty sure.  Rock:  I’m gonna go outside the box and say HHH at Backlash 2000.  It was really the culmination of his entire babyface turn in 1999 and provided the logical payoff for the entire year.  He never had another bigger “big bad heel against virtuous babyface” because the Austin match was two babyfaces and ended badly for him anyway.  Austin:  Wrestlemania XV.  They made so much money in 99-2000 off Austin that they were able to take the company public, and this is the real start of it.  98 was a bunch of stop and start title reigns for him, but after he beat the Rock he was clearly the guy with the belt. HHH:  Royal Rumble 2000.  He went from here to HERE in one fell swoop. Flair:  Royal Rumble 92, duh. Undertaker:  I think the Shawn Michaels match at Wrestlemania was pretty big, but HIAC against Foley of course was a hugely legendary match for a variety of reasons.  Tough call.

Biggest Matches

Not sure which superlative I should be using, but it dawned on me while watching Survivor Series that R-Truth had the most important/biggest match of his career.  Hell, Miz too, moreso than the WM main event.  And while we’re at it, Cena will have his in next March.  But what about Rock? What about Austin? What about Triple H? What about Flair? Taker? Bret? Shawn? Nash?  Hall?  Angle? Funk?   Some I think are no brainers: Foley, HIAC.  Hogan’s, I’d assume, was III against Andre, and in reverse.  Goldberg, versus Hogan on Nitro. Big Show, against Mayweather; the same breath, Bam Bam, against LT.  CM Punk, I’d say Money In The Bank.
Your logical thoughts on this?

Interesting topic. I don’t think Miz has had his yet.  They’ll find something bigger for him, I’m pretty sure.  Rock:  I’m gonna go outside the box and say HHH at Backlash 2000.  It was really the culmination of his entire babyface turn in 1999 and provided the logical payoff for the entire year.  He never had another bigger “big bad heel against virtuous babyface” because the Austin match was two babyfaces and ended badly for him anyway.  Austin:  Wrestlemania XV.  They made so much money in 99-2000 off Austin that they were able to take the company public, and this is the real start of it.  98 was a bunch of stop and start title reigns for him, but after he beat the Rock he was clearly the guy with the belt. HHH:  Royal Rumble 2000.  He went from here to HERE in one fell swoop. Flair:  Royal Rumble 92, duh. Undertaker:  I think the Shawn Michaels match at Wrestlemania was pretty big, but HIAC against Foley of course was a hugely legendary match for a variety of reasons.  Tough call.