You mentioned how Vince is in everyone’s ear to the point of sterilizing (sorry….branding) the product so much it makes a guy wanna watch it all on mute.
Why the change? Network deals? Stock prices? Old age? Less trust in the new gen? I so miss the days where Gorilla, Jess, Brain, and even Piper and Macho would reference old “beefs” with inside jokes and jibes. Not listening to Corey Graves tell me Rollins is an architect and Reigns has the biggest yard or whatever.
Back in the early days of Invasion, Vince was making life hard for JR, who retaliated by threatening to “Join Shane in Atlanta”.
Then nothing happened. Were they actually planning on going anywhere with this, or was it just a throwaway comment?
Yes, I believe that was the plan at one point. The whole thing changed wildly by the day anyway.
“According to a new report from DirtySheets, Daniel Bryan is insisting for some kind of a “reasonable creative control” clause in his new contract. His intention isn’t to abuse that power. Bryan is focused on his long-term booking and wants more input regarding
who he works with on television. Bryan is also demanding a huge rivalry with Brock Lesnar.”
I've been watching the “Summer of Punk” 2011 stuff on the network. The
promos Punk cut with HHH, and especially the contract signing on RAW
with Vince where he basically called him out on everything that was
wrong with the WWE, as well his not knowing how to book talent properly
no matter how over they were with the crowd, are quite telling. Fast
forwarding to today, not much has changed and it's seems to only have
gotten worse. Did Punk see the bigger picture way back then? Where his
“pipe bombs” hitting a little too close to home for management to
tolerate, thus letting him go?
When Rowdy Roddy Piper debuted in WCW at Halloween Havoc 1996, it was right after Bret Hart announced he was staying in the WWF and turning down WCW's offer. So was Piper the back up plan, and would Bret have debuted
in that spot if he decided to sign with WCW, or was WCW trying to get both Piper and Bret?
Also Piper was with WCW until 2000, but was he always coming in for that long or was the original plan just to come in for 1 year, and because he drew money they kept him on?
Let’s say the Samoan wrestling family tree finally causes the space-time continuum to collapse on itself and you go back 30 years in the past to meet your 1988 self. Besides the 2018 existence of just one major promotion, what would 1988 Scott be most shocked to learn from today?
This isn’t going to end well for anybody if they’re gonna be backstage at a live show.
Assuming the former, do you think it pisses Vince/Hunter off that their writers haven’t come up with anything close to catching this kind of main stream media attention?
Not trying to call you out or anything Scott, but I'm getting really tired of hearing this argument. Meltzer was saying something similar on his show this morning.
The reason WWE was able to get all of this money from NBC and Fox for their shows is because they have built this “total package” media empire, like the NFL, NBA, etc. They are seen as big time because they have a successful touring arena show, tons of merchandise that people actually buy, and recognizable mainstream stars associated with them like Cena, Rock, etc. It's because they have a successful network that, while not on actual cable in the US like NFL or MLB, makes them major league. It's not just demand for DVR-proof pseudo-sports that makes them desirable to the likes of the Fox network, because New Japan, Impact and ROH can all provide similar shows and Lord knows nobody is paying billions to show their programming. Same can be said of tons of fringe sports. It is because WWE is seen as a major league level product. And they need to have packed arenas, visible merchandise, and a robust network to complete that package beyond simply producing 5 hours of television content per week…5 hours, by the way, that need actual drawing stars to keep respectable ratings.
Fox and USA don't just want a TV rights package, they want a major league product for that TV to present. And WWE needs all the arms of their company working in tandem. To say that WWE could lose all their part time stars, run no arena shows, and give up on merchandise and still be insanely profitable is foolish. Yes, they will be profitable for THIS TV deal but where will they be when the next deal comes up? And the one after that?