A lot of people like to talk about Stone Cold’s “failed” heel run starting from WM17 (including Austin himself).
I thought it was great, the paranoid rattlesnake had some amazing matches and moments. Some people say that the fans weren’t ready to boo the evergreen antihero.
I feel like aside from a theme change (he had 2 different themes cycle through briefly)Austin didn’t do *too much* to be more of a heel. His wrestling style, mannerisms etc pretty much stayed the same. His style post neck injury became the template for “Wwe main event style” but do you think if he tweaked his wrestling a bit more the heel turn would have worked better or do you agree that fans didn’t want to boo him?
I’ve been rewatching some early 21st century WWE, and I’ve reached Mania XX and the aftermath. Now obviously, knowing what ended up happening, it can be easy to second guess Benoit’s victory – but I actually wanted asked about the title defense against Kane at Badd Blood.
Kane at that point had been unmasked for about a year, and I will always say that they had a real chance with him to put him into that upper tier of psychotic monster heels right after he took the mask off. Him torturing the McMahons and the whole company seeming legit afraid he was going to murder them was great, but then they actually had Shane being competitive with him and just ruined it. However, by post-Mania XX they’ve arguably rehabilitated him as being evil incarnate with the only exception being a fear of Taker. So then they make him Benoit’s first major challenger after the pair of HHH/Michael’s triple threats.
So Benoit survives that defense but then goes on to job out to Orton at Summerslam in that disastrous babyface experiment. Kane meanwhile goes on to have a “you killed the baby I raped into Lita but then we bonded over” feud with Snitsky, which he arguably loses.
Is there any part of this they got right? Would the right call have been to put the title on Kane here as the unstoppable monster until the right babyface could slay him? Or was it all pointless since HHH was getting the title back inevitably?
I know this is a bit before your time, but was wondering what you might have heard about the finish of the Andre/Hogan match at Shea in ’80. It looks as though Hogan kicks out of the pin at 2 ½ , maybe even closer to 2. Was this a miscommunication
or Hogan going into business for himself? If memory serves, this was around the time he was leaving to film Rocky III against Vince Sr.’s wishes, so it wouldn’t surprise me. Curious to what you may know.
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have gone toe-to-toe with Taker or Kane for a while. Maybe something might have come of it. Were there big plans for him at any point?
1. What’s what the online hate for Captain Marvel? While she’s not my favorite character, I enjoy the character and liked the way she used in Endgame.
2. While I have no problems with Infinity War/Endgame, wouldn’t it have been even more spectacular to have Thanos drop the “I am inevitable” line in Infinity War.
While I know this is nitpicking, I just feel like it would have made the end of the battle in Endgame that much cooler.
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I know Austin has brought this subject up many times since the incident (and has been a running joke here at the BOD), that being his walk-out from the company in 2002. The details are fairly well-known, but I wondered if we ever got any clarification on *why* Vince wanted to go that route with Lesnar vs. Austin as a throwaway KOTR qualifier on RAW. I recall the theory being discussed about Vince doing it as sort of a disciplinary move against Austin for his previous no-show after WM18 (although I don’t remember the details on that) as well as his pissy behavior at the time that peaked with his appearance on Byte This where he buried the company for their poor creative direction.
That said, what was the full story there? Punishment? Vince simply not seeing Austin as a top guy anymore (and let’s face it, he was stale by then)? Vince just being Vince?
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