Halloween Havoc 1997
Date: October 26, 1997
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada
Commentators: Tony Schiavone, Dusty Rhodes, Bobby Heenan
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
was another request and since I want to get some WCW PPVs done I have
no problem knocking this one out. We’re two months out from Starrcade so
this show doesn’t mean much. We have something resembling a double main
event with Hogan vs. Piper in a cage and DDP vs. Savage in what would
be called a last man standing match. Let’s get to it.
After a brief intro that is literally all about Hogan vs. Piper, we’re into the arena for some talking.
talks about how a year ago Piper debuted in this arena. Oh and it’s the
biggest cage match EVER!!! The announcers talk about the cage match a
lot which is of course non-title as Sting vs. Hogan is carved into
granite here. If Hogan wins, the NWO may never die. Yes, Piper was
pushed that hard.
Yuji Nagata vs. Ultimo Dragon
Dragon wanted to get his hands (or is it claws?) into Sonny Onoo, the
manager of Nagata. Onoo is the old manager of Dragon and he screwed him
over for Nagata. I guess cuddling with the scales didn’t work. This feud
went on way too long and no one really wanted to see it but it kept
getting pushed anyway. They trade some kicks to start and Nagata takes
speed things up and Dragon tries some more kicks which results in him
getting suplexed hard. There’s the head stand in the corner but Dragon
gets caught in a neck crank. He can’t get anything really going here.
Dragon finally breaks the hold and gets kicked for his efforts. Tenay
thinks the winner here might be #1 contender for the Cruiserweight
clutch by Nagata and Dragon is in trouble again. We hear about Nagata
being in MMA which is true. He was 0-2 and his fights lasted less than a
combined 90 seconds. To be fair though, his opponents were Cro Cop and
Fedor. Wait those fights hadn’t happened yet. Unless they were amateur
or at REALLY small promotions, I have no idea what fights Tenay is
gets two for Nagata as I’m in pain simply thinking about having to
fight those two. Dragon gets a Dragon Screw leg Whip out of nowhere and
we hit the floor. Dragon tries a dive and jumps into a kick. This has
been about 85-90% Nagata. Here comes Raven with the Flock for some
reason as Dragon hits the Asai Moonsault. Back in the ring and the
handspring elbow by Dragon eats a knee.
bomb off the top gets two for Dragon as he’s slowly getting more moves
to hit. Apparently he has a bad elbow. Standing moonsault gets two and
Dragon wants the spinning frankensteiner. Nagata reverses and is able to
drop the arm across the thing that connects the buckle to the post. He
hammers the arm and gets a belly to belly for two.
Lock (a leg lock) goes on for a bit but Dragon grabs a
Dragon Sleeper for a few seconds as Nagata escapes. Both guys down now
but Dragon pops up to hit his kicking sequence to take over. Spinning
frankensteiner hits but the arm is hurt. He goes for the Dragon Sleeper
and Nagata reverses into an armbar for the tap out. Quick finish there.
Basic match here and Nagata was dull as always, but this was
still good. This feud would go on forever with Nagata never really
losing. Dragon never really meant anything after this, although you
could say the same thing for the whole company in about six months. Not a
bad opener, but Dragon got beaten down too much.
Inferno is on WCW.com with Mark Madden. Hey it’s like a WZ Party! He
runs his mouth about facing Jacqueline, a woman, tonight. I can’t stand
her and this angle was bad.
Gedo vs. Chris Jericho
is a bonus match. Gedo has blonde hair and is in a dark yellow cut off
shirt and pants. Gedo’s partners may be coming to WCW soon apparently.
Apparently Gedo lost in the finals of the Super J Cup. Jericho sends him
to the floor and then a long suplex in the ring puts Gedo down. Jericho
is a face here.
chops away but gets knocked over the rope once and skins the cat. I
still wonder how in the world that name came from. Gedo is apparently a
fan of 1970s southern brawling and is like Dusty Rhodes. Oh dear indeed.
And this guy almost won the Super J Cup? That could be horrifying. Gedo
takes over with a powerslam and a sleeper but Jericho gets a
clothesline to make Gedo flip inside out.
powerbomb by Jericho (I didn’t know he did that in WCW) gets two. They
both go to the top but Jericho botches the heck out of it (how often do
you hear that line?) and almost lands in a Styles Clash kind of move.
That looked painful but not quite a FREAKING OW MAN level.
Pescado by Jericho eats boots and they head back in. Gedo gets a shot at
the knee and goes up, only to jump into the Liontamer to end this.
Pretty good match here but not quite as good as the first one. The
styles kind of clashed here (haha that was funny) but the result was
still solid. Jericho botching is always interesting to see due to the
rarity of it. Decent match as yet again we see the WCW formula of good
matches from young guys and the bad matches from the old guys to end it.
Mongo and Debra argue about divorce things.
Cruiserweight Title: Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
is mask vs. title with Eddie as champion of course. Great heat on Eddie
to start as he’s totally evil here. Rey gets an arm drag and a cross
body to send him to the floor almost immediately. Rey flips to the apron
but gets caught by Eddie and tripped, sending him to the floor. Eddie
rams Rey into the steps and adds a hilo to the back in the ring. Rey
fires off a dropkick but tries a cartwheel which gets caught in a belly
to back as Eddie continues his dominance.
backbreaker by Eddie gets two. Eddie goes after the mask but this is
part of a bodysuit kind of a thing. Abdominal stretch by Eddie and Rey
is in trouble. Tenay says that Rey used to wrestle as Hummingbird which
Heenan of course rips into. Rey is on his back in a test of strength
position so he uses Eddie as a board to pop up with and jumps to the top
rope, backflips over and grabs a DDT out of nowhere to break Eddie’s
momentum. AWESOME move.
sends Eddie to the apron and tries a dropkick but Eddie moves and sends
Rey to the floor. After sending him into the railing it’s a camel
clutch with Eddie ripping at the mask again. Off to the Gory Special and
Rey is in trouble. Modified surfboard as Eddie is in total control
here. We hear about El Santo which is someone you hardly ever hear about
tries to fire some shots off in the corner but gets sent into the
opposite corner and caught in the Tree of Woe. Baseball slide by Eddie
misses and he does the Hennig crotch spot against the post. Rey dives
off the top onto Eddie on the floor and here comes Rey. Standing rana
gets two back in the ring. A headscissors puts Eddie on the floor and in
perhaps the most awesome spot I’ve ever seen, Rey gets a running start
and dives over the ropes, catches Eddie in a rana and swings him around
without touching the floor until he releases the hold.
in and a corkscrew moonsault gets two. Split legged moonsault misses
and it’s a big powerbomb by Eddie and Rey is in trouble. Crowd is
getting into this quickly. Big heat on Eddie now. Rey takes him down
with a spinwheel kick but the West Coast Pop is reversed into a
backbreaker. Frog Splash misses so Rey goes up top. Eddie tries a
crucifix bomb off the top but Rey reverses into a rana out of air and
holds Eddie down to get the pin and the title! AWESOME ending!
This was in the running for match of the year and it’s easy to see why.
The problem is when you have Austin vs. Hart in the I Quit match and
the original Hell in a Cell in the same year. That kind of slows things
down a bit which is a shame as this was a great match indeed. Rey was
awesome at this point and moved around here so well that it was almost
uncanny. Great match and Eddie played an awesome cocky heel here. Great
match and the best I’ve ever seen out of Eddie I think.
and Hogan babble about wanting Sting guaranteed to be out of the arena
before he’ll fight tonight. Ok then. This took four minutes somehow with
them talking about wanting a contract or something so he can get the
physical belt back.
Debra has a surprise opponent for Mongo.
Alex Wright vs. Steve McMichael
is more of Debra vs. Mongo with her managing Wright here. And it’s time
to talk about Hogan not being in the main event now. Mongo works on the
wrist but Wright bounces out of it. A minute into the match the
announcers say the names of the wrestlers for one time each. I think
Wright is a heel here but it’s really kind of hard to tell. Not like the
announcers are helping us any as we need to talk about Hogan being a
Wright is a heel here as we discuss the NWO having power now and how
they have the fans over a barrel. Wright works on the arm but I’m not
sure why. It’s not like they’re being recognized for it. Tony is calling
them con men or whatever. Mongo takes over again as now we’re going to
talk about Sting to avoid talking about the match. They collide in the
ring and neither guy goes anywhere.
talk about the match for 34 seconds and just flat drop it to talk about
Hogan more. After a bit more talking it’s a tombstone, Mongo’s
finisher, to Wright. Goldberg comes in while Debra has the referee, and
spears Mongo. This would be a bit more effective if the referee hadn’t
looked over his shoulder to make sure the spear hadn’t happened yet. The
Jackhammer hits (how does the referee not notice a third person in
there) and he throws Wright on top for the pin.
I’m giving them some credit here because they got such little love from
the announcers. In a six and a half minute match the match was talked
about for all of a minute. That’s pathetic and they did it on TV also. I
can kind of understand it there but here? Why? Are they trying to sell
it or something? We already have the PPV man. What’s the point?
Debra gives Goldberg the Super Bowl ring which is now apparently Goldberg’s. He lays out Wright and he’s the real man for Debra.
Savage and Liz (looking very sexy in an NWO t-shirt) say various things about beating up DDP.
Disco Inferno vs. Jacqueline
was supposed to be for Disco’s TV Title but the wrestling commission
wouldn’t let us have a title match where the area between their legs
wasn’t matched. Tony tries to tell us that WCW should ban Hogan from
coming back to PPV if he bails tonight and talks about court cases or
something. It’s so hilarious to hear someone on Halloween Havoc talking
about not giving the fans an advertised main event.
runs of course as he’s both afraid of her and is afraid of trying to
touch her. We’re at stall #3 by Disco so far so we talk about WCW having
momentum or something. WCW never got that no one cared about WCW or
momentum or a war or whatever as it went on FOREVER. Disco has hit the
floor five times in three minutes now and there has been zero contact
the ropes again as this is just idiotic. The fans boo loudly and I
can’t say I blame them. We talk about how Hogan ran too. OH COME ON as
he’s hit the floor eight times now and she finally chases him. A sunset
flip gets two as we’re firmly in the “let’s praise Jackie for doing
basic moves on a man because she’s female” territory. Drop toehold takes
her down and Disco hits the floor again.
We play keepaway on the floor for awhile and Disco hits the floor for an 11th
time. WHO BOOKED THIS CRAP??? Jackie finally catches him and hammers
away….kind of. Disco tries to leave and that gets him nowhere. Hip toss
doesn’t work and he sends her to the floor. The problem here is simple:
Jackie is just a brawler that talks tough.
doesn’t make this impressive. It makes it long and like they’re trying
to say “look at us! We’re awesome because this chick is awesome!” See,
when Chyna did it, it was realistic because she could hang with them and
you kind of forgot she was a woman. Jackie is a chick that is doing
moves to men. Cross body is rolled through by Disco for two and Jackie
rolls up the TV Champion and pins him clean. No one cares about Jackie
Oh do I even have to explain this one? Jackie isn’t impressive, no one
cares about her and she was supposed to be Chyna or something like that. This was a very boring match that might have had 1 minute of “action” out of
nine. This was just terrible and they had to know it was.
US Title: Ric Flair vs. Curt Hennig
stole Flair’s robe and turned on Flair and the Horsemen at Fall Brawl.
Hennig, the champion, comes out with the Cruiserweight belt instead of
the US belt. Flair sprints to the ring and beats the tar out of Hennig
to start. Time to talk about Hogan some more as we finally get the robe
off Hennig and onto Flair (minus the sleeves). Hennig gets his first
offense in, a clothesline, at about two and a half minutes.
manages to say by golly as he rants and raves about WCW and pride and
all kinds of nonsense like that. Hennig goes after the knee and the
announcers rant about Hogan even more. Just say he’ll be here and get it
over with. Hennig works over the leg a lot as the momentum this match
had has just died completely. Elbow gets two as Hennig goes after the
head, which is what was injured in the War Games match where Hennig
Hennig and his orange crotch of tightness here as he hammers away at
Flair’s head. He hammers away and we talk about what WCW might offer
Hogan and Bischoff. Sleeper goes on which is very appropriate here. A
chair is grabbed and Hennig tries the weakest chair shot ever as Flair’s
head is up against the post. Flair chops away and hammers Curt down.
Slingshot sends Hennig into the post which happens a lot to him. Still
on the floor mind you as we have been this entire paragraph.
into the ring now as Hennig wants to leave. Flair chases him down and
they head back to the ring where Hennig beats him down again. The belt
is in the ring from where Hennig tried to leave. Hennig sets for the
Perfectplex onto the belt but of course the idiots that are the WCW
announcers don’t get what he’s going for because it’s not like THAT IS
HIS SIGNATURE MOVE AND HE HAD THE LEG HOOKED ALREADY!!! Flair
suplexes him onto the belt and then puts Hennig in the Tree of Woe, puts
the belt on Curt’s face and stomps it for the CHEAP DQ!!!
Decent match but the talking and the ending completely crippled it.
Flair and Hennig can have a good match in their sleep and this was ok,
but the lack of offense from Flair in the middle hurt it as he more or
less lost his momentum after a single punch. Still though, not bad at
all and awesome due to sheer talent.
Flair keeps up the beatdown but the NWO ran out for the save.
Savage says he’s awesome on the internet.
Dillon, back from an injury angle, says the match is going to happen.
Ok, NOW FREAKING DROP IT ALREADY!!! Bischoff of course comes out to whine and say Dillon has no authority or something like that. Dillon has
a contract that has been notarized or something. That’s what he uses in
a wrestling show. Dude, wrestling fans don’t care about contracts. Let
it die. Bischoff says if Sting is here, they want Nitro. Whatever man.
Lex Luger vs. Scott Hall
Zbyszko is referee for no apparent reason. The announcers get the
contract from the previous segment because you pass it around like
something brought in for show and tell. Zbyszko wants to fight Hall over
some AWA thing and he wouldn’t get to until January. We talk about
Hogan and Bischoff EVEN MORE because we haven’t hammered that out yet I
takes a toothpick to the face and here comes Lex. Larry pulls Hall off
of him as we hear about the one feud of Larry’s that anyone cares about,
that one being against Sammartino. Larry calls it down the middle here
as Hall throws on a headlock. Luger works on the arm as we’re having a
very basic match to start us off here. Syxx is at ringside here.
puts on a hold where he grabs Luger’s wrists and bends his arms back.
Luger reverses it so that he’s behind it. Hall is still holding the
wrists even though he’s in pain here. I give up. He uses the ropes to
escape. Really? I mean dude, REALLY? And this guy was in THE LADDER
MATCH people! Clothesline puts Luger down and Hall takes over again.
Zbyszko counts slow.
to a sleeper by Hall as this match is putting me to sleep. That goes on
for awhile until a suplex gets Luger out of it. Larry, ever the
impartial referee, backdrops Hall to the floor. Here’s Bischoff who gets
drilled also. Luger starts his comeback and hits three atomic drops and
the forearm. Bischoff distracts Larry and Syxx kicks Luger down.
Outsider Edge hits and there’s the pin. Wow I’m kind of surprised.
The referee thing got old quick as Larry didn’t need to be there in the
slightest and they never told us why Larry and Hall didn’t like each
other. I knew because of prior knowledge, but this is a bad thing that
only WWF ever seemed to get right: let us know in case there are first
time viewers. That might make them want to see more instead of “oh
they’re feuding and don’t worry why.” Never got that.
sees the replay and we restart the match. Rack goes on and the bell
rings just as Syxx kicks him for the potential DQ. This extra time might
have been 12 seconds long and I’m not sure if Luger won by submission
or DQ. Does it matter? Rating is the same as above. Bischoff beats up
Zbyszko as his ego continues to dominate the show. I mean dude, why in
the world was Bischoff in a competitive match at Starrcade? The point of
a match like that is for him to be destroyed, but they let Bischoff
fight and win a screwy match. That’s WCW for you though. And you wonder
why they went out of business.
and Larry choked Syxx with a submission hold. That was a reason to get
him out of the ring as he had a bad neck. He would be gone just after
the beginning of the year and I don’t’ think he wrestled again for WCW.
Randy Savage vs. Diamond Dallas Page
is billed as a Las Vegas Death Match which means Last Man Standing.
These two feuded all year and it was AWESOME. By the way, Liz in a short
leather skirt, tied off NWO t-shirt and three inch heel thigh high
boots: WIN. Page has taped ribs which were injured for about 3 years I
think. Savage attacks the ribs which Dusty says you can’t hide. Well gee
Dusty how did you figure out he had bad ribs when they’re taped?
head into the ring after starting on the floor and Savage hammers away.
Page does that pull up out of the corner to break the count and beats
the tar out of Savage. Both guys are down quickly off a double
clothesline which Dusty explains the name of. Diamond Cutter attempt
goes nowhere as Tony and Dusty argue over whether or not that move would
be effective here. How are these people so freaking stupid?
goes lucha and dives over the top to take down Savage. Back into the
ring but Page gets caught coming in and tumbles back out. Savage gets
his patented (and he has the paperwork) axe off the top to the back of
Page, sending him into the barrier. We head into the crowd where Raven’s
Flock is sitting. They slug it out in the crowd and brawl out of the
crowd up by the entrance way.
sends him into the safety rail which makes sense as it hurts the ribs.
Page throws him into the set which is made of fake tombstones and slams
him onto a “stone” which explodes. Dusty of course freaks out over
everything. Back towards the ring and Page goes rib first into the
railing again but he might have blocked part of it. The shot into the
steps doesn’t get blocked though and Page is in trouble.
shot with the steps gets about five and we’re back in the ring now.
Savage steals a camera but Page gets his feet up to kick it back into
Savage’s face. Nice counter there. Both guys are down and Liz pops up on
the apron with a tray of some kind which is shattered over the
referee’s head. She chokes Page but Kimberly comes out for the save. Yep
Liz is far hotter.
Patrick comes out to referee it and Page hammers away. Atomic drop and
the Pancake (Styles Clash without the arms being hooked) sets up an
attempt at a Diamond Cutter which misses. That gets a count of about
five so Savage slams him and drops the elbow right into the ribs.
Somehow that only gets 9 and there goes the referee right before a
Diamond Cutter. Well of course he goes down at that exact moment.
gets up but both guys are down since Page never got up after dropping
Savage with the Cutter. Both guys are rolling around at five and are
both up at eight. Another Diamond Cutter attempt is countered by a low
blow and Page hits the floor. And here’s Sting who hits Page in the ribs
with the bat. Even Tony knows it’s not Sting so you can tell the joke
was dead here. Somehow he couldn’t tell it was Nash as Sting the next
month though. Page can’t get up as Savage makes it and this war is over.
The ending is what holds this back but this was a war. Both of these
guys liked to map out their entire matches so this was more like a
recital than a match but that’s fine. Savage vs. Steamboat was like
that. Very good match here as they beat the tar out of each other and
it’s only the stupid ending that keeps it from being a classic. Still
worth a watch though.
Bogus Sting was Hogan if you’re curious.
Savage jumps DDP while he’s attached to a stretcher.
The announcers talk about the match some more. Why are you surprised here?
Hulk Hogan vs. Roddy Piper
has the belt here but isn’t champion. This is non-title and in a cage
because this match is supposed to draw money in 1997. This is more like
the Cell with no top and with big spaces in the walls shaped like
squares. Think the blue cage but with squares big enough to pass a crack
baby through. No word on what you do to win this but it’s implied Piper
can win with the sleeper. Granted they don’t say get the sleeper and
walk out or win with a submission out of it but whatever.
tries to climb out but Piper whips him with a belt. Now Piper bites
Hogan’s ass. Dude, ass to mouth in a Hogan/Piper match? I’ve seen a lot
now. We head into the ring for a change and it’s and atomic drop and a
head slap. No referee here either. The cage here is more for keeping
people out than a weapon which is fine I guess. Back to the floor again
and Hogan tries to climb but is caught with a low blow.
slam each other into the cage and Hogan wants the door open. Ok, Piper
shoves Hogan out, meaning Hogan was out FIRST, but they went out at the
same time so this continues. I guess that means you can win by escape
but they just want it to keep going. Hogan tries to leave but Sting, and
I’m assuming the real one, is pointing a bat at him. Piper catches up
to him and slams the door on his back/shoulder.
gets Piper in and then falls out of the ring. He wants to get out now
so I’m assuming it’s escape. Seriously, it’s that confusing. How
freaking hard is a cage match anyway? Hogan rams him into the cage a few
times as I keep tellimg myself this is almost over. Hogan climbs but
Piper follows him. There’s a pair of Stings in the aisle as now Piper is
near the top of the cage.
kicks Piper down off the cage (Piper kind of climbed down) and then
Hogan climbs down as well. Weightlifting belt to the back and Hogan goes
up instead of going through the door like an intelligent heel would.
That cage is shaking too which is a bit scary. There’s a Sting waiting
on Hogan at the bottom so Piper pulls him back in. Here’s a third Sting,
this one kind of chunky.
we have four of them now and now it’s five. Hogan climbs down so Piper
tries to get out like an intelligent person but Hogan stops that also.
Back into the ring now for some reason and Hogan pops him with the world
title. There’s the leg drop onto Piper onto the belt which gets two as
the referee has to come in.
comes out and climbs to the top of the cage and jumps into the middle
of the ring. Now to be fair he missed Hogan by about two feet but he
caught him on the top of the head at least. Not criticizing him there
mind you but pointing it out. I’d be scared to death from jumping that.
Sleeper ends Hogan just after that.
This match made no sense at all. You go from the lack of knowing how to
win the match to kind of knowing how to win the match to no one wanting
to escape the cage it seemed to the Sting army who did a total of one
thing (keep Hogan from leaving) to Savage coming in at the end to the
biggest problem: they really didn’t do anything.
was about 14 minutes long and the vast majority was laying around,
climbing the cage and punching. There was no drama, no extended
advantages, very little violence and it really seemed liked there was no
real reason for this to be in a cage. Bad match indeed for a lot of
match Bischoff comes out and he, Hogan and Savage beat up Piper. One of
the Stings gets in and gets taken down with ease. They handcuff Piper
to the cage and the beating is on. Hogan puts the Sting mask on for no
apparent reason. A kid climbs over the cage and the fake Sting takes him
down with ease and then Hogan and Savage beat the tar out of him in
the ring for no apparent reason. This is either REALLY stupid or a
totally pointless work. Security comes in and takes FOREVER to get him
out. And that’s the show. Seriously, this ends with the fan being taken
Oddly enough the music for the credits is what would become Marc Mero’s theme music in WWF. No idea why but it is.
Overall Rating: C-.
This is a hard one to grade. However other than the main event and the
man vs. woman, nothing is really that bad. Hall vs. Luger is dull but
not particularly horrible. Then you have two awesome matches including
an all time classic which is more than enough to keep this from a
constant talking of Hogan possibly not wrestling is REALLY annoying and
I’d recommend fast forwarding about 45 minutes after that
Hogan/Bischoff promo. It’s certainly not the worst WCW show ever but the
bad stuff is rather bad. See those two matches and if you’re incredibly
bored the whole show minus the main event and man vs. woman. Not too
bad but still not great.
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