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Hey Scott,
I was contemplating the mysteries of the WWEUniverse, and the following topics began to trend.
 


1. Before Vince was “outed” as the owner of the WWF, he was the excitable announcer and was still all over the product. But did Vince Sr. ever have an on-screen role? I know that the concept of the “wrestling authority figure” hadn’t really been invented, and kayfabe would have been crucial at the time, but I still can’t believe that the guy who started the WWF could sit in the front row of MSG without anyone knowing who he was.
2. This one gets raised a lot, but who should have won the ’99 Rumble? Austin needs to be in the main event of Mania, but if he wins a third straight Rumble from no.1, it would kill the entire roster. On the other hand, was anyone over enough to eliminate him? Should they have taken a chance on HHH, as he was getting the push soon anyway? Could they have had Big Show debut a month early, or was he still under contract with WCW at this time? Kane? Taker? Golga? Anyone would have been a better winner than Vince, but I just don’t see a way out. Blame Russo.
3. Is it true that HHH was supposed to beat Taker at Mania X7 with Shawn’s help? I only heard this rumour recently, and couldn’t believe the Streak could have been ended before it became a key selling point of main every year, including last year, when HHH met Undertaker for the first time.
4. Is Savage/Steamboat the only *****-match that’s less than 15 minutes long?
5. They usually get celebrities involved at Mania, so given Vince’s world revolves around Twitter, why doesn’t he just throw money at Gaga or Bieber and get them to appear and plug the hell out of the event beforehand? The Little Monsters and Beliebers rush to buy the event, it does 4.6 million buys worldwide, and Vince’s genius is confirmed. It couldn’t fail, right? Right?

Please don’t use the term “WWE Universe” on this blog. 1.  Vincent J. never appeared on TV that I’m aware of.  Most of the promoters of the time were strictly backstage, which kind of shoots down the whole “You have to be a wrestler to understand wrestling” argument, since I don’t think anyone would argue that Vince Sr. or Toots Mondt or the Crocketts didn’t understand wrestling.  Of course, once the sport became primarily a TV outlet, then The Promoter became a TV character as much as anyone. 2.  Big Show was definitely still under contract.  They were cutting it really close by having him debut at the February show, in fact.  That being said, Austin is the biggest star in the history of stars, so fuck the rest of the roster, he should have won the match for a third straight year.  3.  It’s true that Shawn was supposed to get involved, but no one has ever said that HHH was supposed to beat Undertaker.  I’m pretty sure that HHH was doing the job whether Shawn got involved or not, it’s just that Shawn was originally going to cost him the match and set up a HHH v. HBK feud.  4.  Well, ratings are subjective, but it’s the only one that I’ve given ***** to.  5.  He’d probably put Bieber over Dolph Ziggler, too.

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Hey Scott, Long time blog reader. I have two questions I feel like you will have good answers to: 1- Mick Foley’s latest run in WWE isn’t exactly lighting the business on fire: He basically was used as comedic device in the “this is your life” segment with John Cena. And then last week he presented an award at the Slamy’s. I remember when I was young and started watching WWF in the mid 80s and Bruno Sammartino was still around it mattered nothing to me as a new fan. I think the same thing might be happening when guys like Mick Foley and Bret Hart come back once in awhile on Raw, especially outside their home towns. What do you think is the best way to use their name value if they can’t wrestle anymore, is it even worth having them around? 2- What would be the harm of just going back to one world title, one IC title and one set of tag titles? It would create so much more drama in the chase to those titles and be all the more meaningful when ONE person at a time holds the belt. They don’t have that huge a roster anymore either. Are they just that stubborn in not wanting to admit the brand split and multiple titles is a waste of time? Shouldn’t the PPV numbers be all the proof they need?

1.  I don’t really know what Foley’s endgame is.  He’s set for life and doesn’t need to wrestle anymore for financial reasons, so maybe he wants to help new people get over?  But really, I don’t know that there’s much more Mick can offer on that front.  I don’t know, I feel like he should have just stepped away gracefully and left it at that.  I really liked his commentary stint, but we know that he hated it due to Vince yelling in his ear so there’s little chance of him going back to that again.  I had thought that he might be going back to the Commissionary Position and ousting Johnny Ace from the GM job, but every day that Ace is still on TV seems to contradict that viewpoint.  Other than that, I don’t know why they even bothered to bring him back, to be honest.  They don’t need him and he doesn’t need them, unless he wants to host Vintage Classics or get involved with the WWE Network in some form.  2.  They are indeed just that stubborn.  Both World champions wrestle on both shows, but they still think they need multiple title matches on PPV.  And the PPV numbers are “proof” that the PPV concept is dying and the economy is bad and a million other excuses, but everything they do is perfect and not at all at fault. 

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Hey Scott, Long time blog reader. I have two questions I feel like you will have good answers to: 1- Mick Foley’s latest run in WWE isn’t exactly lighting the business on fire: He basically was used as comedic device in the “this is your life” segment with John Cena. And then last week he presented an award at the Slamy’s. I remember when I was young and started watching WWF in the mid 80s and Bruno Sammartino was still around it mattered nothing to me as a new fan. I think the same thing might be happening when guys like Mick Foley and Bret Hart come back once in awhile on Raw, especially outside their home towns. What do you think is the best way to use their name value if they can’t wrestle anymore, is it even worth having them around? 2- What would be the harm of just going back to one world title, one IC title and one set of tag titles? It would create so much more drama in the chase to those titles and be all the more meaningful when ONE person at a time holds the belt. They don’t have that huge a roster anymore either. Are they just that stubborn in not wanting to admit the brand split and multiple titles is a waste of time? Shouldn’t the PPV numbers be all the proof they need?

1.  I don’t really know what Foley’s endgame is.  He’s set for life and doesn’t need to wrestle anymore for financial reasons, so maybe he wants to help new people get over?  But really, I don’t know that there’s much more Mick can offer on that front.  I don’t know, I feel like he should have just stepped away gracefully and left it at that.  I really liked his commentary stint, but we know that he hated it due to Vince yelling in his ear so there’s little chance of him going back to that again.  I had thought that he might be going back to the Commissionary Position and ousting Johnny Ace from the GM job, but every day that Ace is still on TV seems to contradict that viewpoint.  Other than that, I don’t know why they even bothered to bring him back, to be honest.  They don’t need him and he doesn’t need them, unless he wants to host Vintage Classics or get involved with the WWE Network in some form.  2.  They are indeed just that stubborn.  Both World champions wrestle on both shows, but they still think they need multiple title matches on PPV.  And the PPV numbers are “proof” that the PPV concept is dying and the economy is bad and a million other excuses, but everything they do is perfect and not at all at fault. 

Randomness

Hey Scott, Long time blog reader. I have two questions I feel like you will have good answers to: 1- Mick Foley’s latest run in WWE isn’t exactly lighting the business on fire: He basically was used as comedic device in the “this is your life” segment with John Cena. And then last week he presented an award at the Slamy’s. I remember when I was young and started watching WWF in the mid 80s and Bruno Sammartino was still around it mattered nothing to me as a new fan. I think the same thing might be happening when guys like Mick Foley and Bret Hart come back once in awhile on Raw, especially outside their home towns. What do you think is the best way to use their name value if they can’t wrestle anymore, is it even worth having them around? 2- What would be the harm of just going back to one world title, one IC title and one set of tag titles? It would create so much more drama in the chase to those titles and be all the more meaningful when ONE person at a time holds the belt. They don’t have that huge a roster anymore either. Are they just that stubborn in not wanting to admit the brand split and multiple titles is a waste of time? Shouldn’t the PPV numbers be all the proof they need?

1.  I don’t really know what Foley’s endgame is.  He’s set for life and doesn’t need to wrestle anymore for financial reasons, so maybe he wants to help new people get over?  But really, I don’t know that there’s much more Mick can offer on that front.  I don’t know, I feel like he should have just stepped away gracefully and left it at that.  I really liked his commentary stint, but we know that he hated it due to Vince yelling in his ear so there’s little chance of him going back to that again.  I had thought that he might be going back to the Commissionary Position and ousting Johnny Ace from the GM job, but every day that Ace is still on TV seems to contradict that viewpoint.  Other than that, I don’t know why they even bothered to bring him back, to be honest.  They don’t need him and he doesn’t need them, unless he wants to host Vintage Classics or get involved with the WWE Network in some form.  2.  They are indeed just that stubborn.  Both World champions wrestle on both shows, but they still think they need multiple title matches on PPV.  And the PPV numbers are “proof” that the PPV concept is dying and the economy is bad and a million other excuses, but everything they do is perfect and not at all at fault. 

Randomness

Hey Scott, Long time blog reader. I have two questions I feel like you will have good answers to: 1- Mick Foley’s latest run in WWE isn’t exactly lighting the business on fire: He basically was used as comedic device in the “this is your life” segment with John Cena. And then last week he presented an award at the Slamy’s. I remember when I was young and started watching WWF in the mid 80s and Bruno Sammartino was still around it mattered nothing to me as a new fan. I think the same thing might be happening when guys like Mick Foley and Bret Hart come back once in awhile on Raw, especially outside their home towns. What do you think is the best way to use their name value if they can’t wrestle anymore, is it even worth having them around? 2- What would be the harm of just going back to one world title, one IC title and one set of tag titles? It would create so much more drama in the chase to those titles and be all the more meaningful when ONE person at a time holds the belt. They don’t have that huge a roster anymore either. Are they just that stubborn in not wanting to admit the brand split and multiple titles is a waste of time? Shouldn’t the PPV numbers be all the proof they need?

1.  I don’t really know what Foley’s endgame is.  He’s set for life and doesn’t need to wrestle anymore for financial reasons, so maybe he wants to help new people get over?  But really, I don’t know that there’s much more Mick can offer on that front.  I don’t know, I feel like he should have just stepped away gracefully and left it at that.  I really liked his commentary stint, but we know that he hated it due to Vince yelling in his ear so there’s little chance of him going back to that again.  I had thought that he might be going back to the Commissionary Position and ousting Johnny Ace from the GM job, but every day that Ace is still on TV seems to contradict that viewpoint.  Other than that, I don’t know why they even bothered to bring him back, to be honest.  They don’t need him and he doesn’t need them, unless he wants to host Vintage Classics or get involved with the WWE Network in some form.  2.  They are indeed just that stubborn.  Both World champions wrestle on both shows, but they still think they need multiple title matches on PPV.  And the PPV numbers are “proof” that the PPV concept is dying and the economy is bad and a million other excuses, but everything they do is perfect and not at all at fault. 

More randomness

Hey Scott,
Just because everyone on the blog always comes up with the best things to read, two conversation starters, one humorous/nostalgic and one forward thinking:
1) What’s the lamest catchphrase that never got over?
2) What two WWE/FCW wrestlers would you repackage as a tag team to seriously bolster the potentially revitalizing tag team division and under what gimmick/name?

1.  John Morrison’s “Mr. Ziggles”.  Go on, try to find a worse one, it’s scientifically impossible.  2.  The tag division doesn’t need gimmicky teams, it just needs regular teams who get focused on beyond one champion and one challenger.  I mean, currently the Usos are kicking around, but no one cares about them anyway.  Other than that, Air Boom and Vickie’s guys are the only people who even compete as a team.  Awesome Truth are supposed to be the “main event” team, so I don’t really count them, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them win the tag titles before Survivor Series.  Really though, it’s easy to put together guys who aren’t doing anything like Morrison, Santino, Christian, Sheamus, the former Nexus goofs, and some developmental guys and you’ve got a tag division.  Like, put Morrison and Sheamus together for whatever storyline you want, and that gives you the guy to take the shitkicking and then make the hot tag to the big asskicker who finishes.  There’s a tag team!  Or put Sheamus together with Heath Slater as the Ginger Supremacists (yeah, I still watch Glee, fuck off) and there’s a tag team!  Give them one of the random Divas as a manager, and you’ve got a tag team act. Or Seth Rollins & John Morrison, that seems like it’d be a good pairing.  Pick 2 people, push them, and see what happens.  Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson didn’t need a goofy name or gimmicky act to get over. 

More randomness

Hey Scott,
Just because everyone on the blog always comes up with the best things to read, two conversation starters, one humorous/nostalgic and one forward thinking:
1) What’s the lamest catchphrase that never got over?
2) What two WWE/FCW wrestlers would you repackage as a tag team to seriously bolster the potentially revitalizing tag team division and under what gimmick/name?

1.  John Morrison’s “Mr. Ziggles”.  Go on, try to find a worse one, it’s scientifically impossible.  2.  The tag division doesn’t need gimmicky teams, it just needs regular teams who get focused on beyond one champion and one challenger.  I mean, currently the Usos are kicking around, but no one cares about them anyway.  Other than that, Air Boom and Vickie’s guys are the only people who even compete as a team.  Awesome Truth are supposed to be the “main event” team, so I don’t really count them, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them win the tag titles before Survivor Series.  Really though, it’s easy to put together guys who aren’t doing anything like Morrison, Santino, Christian, Sheamus, the former Nexus goofs, and some developmental guys and you’ve got a tag division.  Like, put Morrison and Sheamus together for whatever storyline you want, and that gives you the guy to take the shitkicking and then make the hot tag to the big asskicker who finishes.  There’s a tag team!  Or put Sheamus together with Heath Slater as the Ginger Supremacists (yeah, I still watch Glee, fuck off) and there’s a tag team!  Give them one of the random Divas as a manager, and you’ve got a tag team act. Or Seth Rollins & John Morrison, that seems like it’d be a good pairing.  Pick 2 people, push them, and see what happens.  Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson didn’t need a goofy name or gimmicky act to get over. 

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Hey Scott,
Long time fan. Own all your books. Two questions for the blog on some 80s wrestlers I figured you would know the answers on:
1- Watching old episodes of prime time it seemed as if Hillbilly Jim was pretty over with the crowd in the late 80s but other than a survivor series match I don’t remember him being on any on big PPV card or any big feuds. What gives?
2- Lanny Poffo was pretty boring in the ring but he wasn’t awful, why did he stop wrestling entirely? Injuries or they just lost faith in him as a wrestler. In retrospect would it have been better to have played up his relation to Randy so they could have had a brother feud?

1.  Nothing gives, really.  Hillbilly was a midcard comedy guy who was very effective at his role and was gone by the time the PPV era really began.  He had a good run with Hogan on top of house shows as a tag team, made huge money from the Rock N Wrestling cartoon, and currently works as a goodwill ambassador type of role with the DVD division.  Really, what more were they gonna do with him?  2.  He stopped wrestling because he signed a lucrative deal with WCW at the same time as his brother, and they just paid him and never used him for years, until the company died.  Good work if you can get it.  The character who became The Maestro was originally supposed to be him, but it never panned out for some reason.  Poffo as a pretentious conductor, ala Seinfeld, would have been fun, actually.  That being said, I don’t know why they never thought of reuniting him with Curt Hennig or anything like that, either.  Just WCW for ya. 

Randomness

Hey Scott,
Long time fan. Own all your books. Two questions for the blog on some 80s wrestlers I figured you would know the answers on:
1- Watching old episodes of prime time it seemed as if Hillbilly Jim was pretty over with the crowd in the late 80s but other than a survivor series match I don’t remember him being on any on big PPV card or any big feuds. What gives?
2- Lanny Poffo was pretty boring in the ring but he wasn’t awful, why did he stop wrestling entirely? Injuries or they just lost faith in him as a wrestler. In retrospect would it have been better to have played up his relation to Randy so they could have had a brother feud?

1.  Nothing gives, really.  Hillbilly was a midcard comedy guy who was very effective at his role and was gone by the time the PPV era really began.  He had a good run with Hogan on top of house shows as a tag team, made huge money from the Rock N Wrestling cartoon, and currently works as a goodwill ambassador type of role with the DVD division.  Really, what more were they gonna do with him?  2.  He stopped wrestling because he signed a lucrative deal with WCW at the same time as his brother, and they just paid him and never used him for years, until the company died.  Good work if you can get it.  The character who became The Maestro was originally supposed to be him, but it never panned out for some reason.  Poffo as a pretentious conductor, ala Seinfeld, would have been fun, actually.  That being said, I don’t know why they never thought of reuniting him with Curt Hennig or anything like that, either.  Just WCW for ya.