Smackdown – June 19, 2003

Date: June 19, 2003
Location: SBC Center, San Antonio, Texas
Commentators: Michael Cole, Tazz

So after last week’s main event saw Big Show and Brock Lesnar break the ring, it’s probably time to set up a rematch because these two have to be stuck fighting each other forever. Other than that Kurt Angle is back and full on face again, having fired Team Angle. There are some good stories going on around here at the moment so let’s get to it.

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NXT Takeover: WarGames

Takeover: WarGames
Date: November 19, 2017
Location: Toyota Center, Houston, Texas
Commentators: Percy Watson, Nigel McGuinness, Mauro Ranallo

It’s time! After nearly twenty years of waiting, we’re FINALLY back to the biggest gimmick of them all. Well at least to the WWE version of the thing. Tonight there will be three trios involved in the match, which could make for a rather interesting edition of WarGames. At least it’s here though. Let’s get to it.

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Best/Worst Survivor Series?

Hey, Scott:

Since it’s the season, I’m curious as to what you think were the best and worst Survivor Series? As PPVs go, everyone seems to have an opinion on best/worst Wrestlemania or Royal Rumble, but 30 years of Survivor Series and it seems the individual events don’t hold the same place in fans’ hearts.

​Yeah, for me it's easily the most missable of the Big Four and doesn't really hold any particular place of specialness in my heart.  Quality-wise, Survivor Series 97 was complete garbage, but of course by far the most memorable.  93 was hella-weak and I'd probably call it the worst, followed closely by 91, which was so bad that they tried to kill off the elimination match format as a result.  
None of them really inspire any great excitement from me.  I love the elimination matches on the original 87 and 88 shows.  98 is of course a classic.  2002 was pretty fun thanks to MSG.  96 is highly underrated and features one of the great matches of the modern era.  ​Anything past 2003, forget it, I can't even remember the shows.  

Invasion Era

Hindsight 20/20, should they have delayed the Invasion angle about 6 months or so until the likes of Flair & nWo would be available, or would it be holding off the momentum of the WCW purchase too long, potentially neutralizing any benefit of doing it right away?

Sub-Question, the separate ramps entrances at the Invasion PPV for the two sides was both aesthetically & logically cool. Think they should bring that back for helping with face/heel dynamics?

​The ramp thing is EXACTLY what they should be doing for Survivor Series.  
And hindsight 20/20, they should have done a LOT of things differently with the Invasion.  I will at least play devil's advocate with your first question, however, and note that they were wanting to do a new WCW show right away and waiting six months would have likely meant it couldn't happen, so they had to proceed with what they had.  Overall, though, they needed Flair and Goldberg to make it work.  ​


From Cageside Seats:
• According to James McKenna on Wrestling Sheet Radio, at one point WWE had the idea of doing Charlotte vs. James Ellsworth for the women's championship at WrestleMania.
• What's more, they were apparently going to get there by having Ellsworth become transgender.

Get the hell outta here. How much is Vince Russo smiling at that idea?

​Have we all forgotten the saga of Harvina Wippleman already?  So it's not like the idea is without precedent.  Maybe they could have transplanted his balls into his chin.​


On total divas, a guy from Talent Relations delivers angle developments to the women wrestlers. Is this really how they learn of storylines or is this just for Total Divas and to cut down on the amount of WWE producers on the show?

​The more important question is why you're watching Total Divas.  
Regardless, the entire show is basically a scripted TV show, so essentially anything you're watching on it was manipulated for the purposes of TV.  And yeah, I don't think they want to have actual WWE production people as characters on the show.​

WCW Seven Deadly Sins

Was WCW really planning on going with a "Seven Deadly Sins" theme with their ppv’s if they had stuck around back in 2001?

They already had “Sin" and “Greed".

Im curious how “WCW Lust”, “WCW Sloth” and “WCW Gluttony” would have played out.

Sloth was clearly Kevin Nash's time to shine. 

Survivor Series Idea

Hey Scott,

So I was listening to Observer Live and Alvarez was saying there should be something on the line to justify guys like Braun and Reigns fighting together, he suggested the winning brand gets last 15 spots in the Rumble or last 5. So what about if the winning team gets World Title shots whenever they choose? Example Team Raw wins, Joe can choose the next night on Raw to get a shot at Brock, so on and so forth.

Yeah, but in their mind, Steph threatening their jobs is the motivation we all care about. 
That Rumble idea, though?  Awesome. 

The Friday Night Thread


This weekend sees NXT Takeover on Saturday, with the return of WarGames and Andrade Cien Almas challenging for the NXT title as the top two matches.  Sunday is Survivor Series, which is FOUR HOURS LONG but I enjoy making money so I’m sure I’ll get through it and do a rant.  Monday will be another Monday Night Wrong column on the Sporting News, and I’m debating between Hawk’s attempted suicide or The West Texas Rednecks/No Limit Soldiers for potential topics.

Lots of hockey and basketball going on, plus the next round of CFL playoffs.  The Saskatchewan Roughriders, who play in the Western division, are facing the Toronto Argonauts in the Eastern final.  Because CFL.

Talk about everything here!

What the World Was Watching: King of the Ring 1995

Vince McMahon and Dok Hendrix are in the booth and they are live from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  We are in ECW country, as illustrated by hat guy being in the front row opposite the hard camera.

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