Hell in a Cell

Hi Scott,

Thanks for answering my earlier question on the Blog!

I ended up attending the show, and yeah, it was far from full – lots of sections closed and covered over, and lots of empty seats on the non-camera sides.

Anyway, I put together some thoughts on the show from a live perspective here (http://buexperience.blogspot.com/2013/10/wwe-hell-in-cell-2013-october-2013.html) if people are interested.

Thanks again, and keep up the great work as always!

I shall endeavor to continue doing so.  

BoD Daily Update

WWE.com RAW Preview

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2013-10-28/five-point-preview-26159507

WWE.com Footage of Big E Langston and Dean Ambrose Receiving Medical Treatment After Their Match at “Hell in a Cell.”

http://www.wwe.com/videos/big-e-langston-and-dean-ambrose-are-treated-by-wwe-medical-staff-wwecom-exclusiv-26159505

Curtis Axel Injury Update

Axel tore both of his hip flexors and is out indefinitely

Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Radio

“Total Divas” Returning on November 10th

Here is the official press release from E! in regards to the second season premiere

“As Eva Marie becomes increasingly popular, Nikki begins to feel threatened. Ariane works to control her temper. Nattie has fears regarding her return to the ring.”

Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com

The PG PostGame: Hell in a Cell 2013 (VIDEO!)

Okay, folks, the ground rules: I did not see the show.  I am commenting on the booking only based upon the WWE’s website report of what they consider important.  I will still award MVP and give a Final Rating.

And unlike the text last time, this time you get a YouTube vid!  Thrill at the annoying buzz of feedback because I don’t understand audio controls yet!  Enjoy my Jake Roberts mustache and awful growth of mini-beard (hey, I don’t shave on weekends)!  Listen to my TV newscaster voice!  See the towel hanging on the door to my bedroom!  YOU GET IT ALL!  C’mon — who else would serve up an opportunity to snark on a silver platter like this?

No, but seriously…

…dumb memes aside, what is the story even supposed to be at this point?  Bryan gets screwed out of the belt at Summerslam, then has it taken away after Night of Champions, then a no-contest at Battleground and finally screwed again in his ultimate chance at revenge after a RAW where HHH and Shawn basically demeaned him as a B+ guy who couldn't win the big one?  I know I rag on them "telling stories" but at least the story leading up to Summerslam made sense and paid off the MITB thing in a way that you could go from A to B to C and say "Aha, of course HHH was going to screw Bryan over there".  What was the point of The Reign of Abeyance?  Why not just put Orton over last month if that's where you wanted to go with it?  It's now three PPVs after Summerslam and we're literally right back where we were again — Orton as champion after the referee handed him the fluke win and screwed over Daniel Bryan.  
And people wonder why I can only stomach RAW on Hulu now.

TNA up for sale?

Saw this from The Cubs Fan on The W who was reporting about what Dave was saying on The Wrestling Observer podcast last night…

 
Your thoughts?
I was listening to that podcast on the way home from work, yeah.  Obviously there's only two viable options here: Viacom buys it and runs it as a TV show, or Vince buys it for the video library and picks at the bones of the talent left.  
Unless maybe Steph was cashing in those $14 million worth of stocks for something OTHER than building a house…

WWE Hell in a Cell Thread

Preshow starts at 730pm.

Here is the card:

Kofi Kingston vs. Damien Sandow (Preshow Match)
Los Matadores vs. Real Americans
Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena (World Heavyweight Championship)
CM Punk vs. Ryback & Paul Heyman (Hell in a Cell Match)
Cody Rhodes & Goldust vs. Roman Reigns & Seth Rollins vs. Usos (Tag Team Championship Match)
AJ Lee vs. Brie Bella (Diva’s Championship)
Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan (Hell in a Cell Match for the WWE Championship)

Question on Alex Wright for the blog

Hey, Scott. My memory has been fooling me lately…I recently saw that Alex Wright didn’t debut for WCW until 1994, when I could have sworn it was a bit more pre-Hogan. I was just wondering whether he was legitimately considered a great worker for the time and the “next big thing,” or if that was just the gimmick.

Thanks!
Mike R

Definitely just the gimmick.  He wasn’t any kind of a worker until the luchadors came in around 96 and he had someone to show him how to work that style.  

Scott Hall on Art of Wrestling

Just a heads up to check out Scott Hall on Cabana’s Art of Wrestling podcast. 

He’s totally lucid and his REMARKABLE knowledge of the business (particularly given what he’s done to himself over the last decade and a half) is pretty amazing.  Given his basic understanding of how wrestling “works” and a history that dates back to Florida when Dusty was booking(!) and the AWA, it’s a damned shame he hasn’t been working for the E for the past ten years on the creative staff.  If there’s any way he can keep himself together he’d still be a fantastic add for them.

Best,

PAK

Oh, there’s no denying that he’s got a brilliant mind for the business.  But just look at the trouble that someone like Michael Hayes has caused in his tenure and he doesn’t even have a quarter of Hall’s demons.  Even if Hall was sober it would be too big of a gamble for a family friendly company like WWE to take now.  

WWF Championship Wrestling: May 4th, 1985

May 4th, 1985

Your hosts are Jesse Ventura (Filling in tonight for Bruno Sammartino) and Vince McMahon.

In action tonight are the British Bulldogs, Don Muraco, and Paul Orndorff, who will be without Bobby Heenan. Also, Ricky Steamboat and King Kong Bundy are in action and Piper’s Pit with Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo.


Dave Barbie vs. Ricky Steamboat

The crowd is loud for Steamboat. He dodges a few attacks before taking down Barbie with an armdrag. He continues to work the arm until he gets caught with a slam. Barbie misses an elbow drop then Steamboat goes back to the arm. Barbie lands a few knee smashes in the corner but eats boot on a charge. Steamboat knocks him down with a double chop then puts him away with a forearm drop after a flying body press (4:12).

Thoughts: A bit on the dull side as most of this was Steamboat working on the arm. Looks Like Barbie screwed up the finish as he didn’t catch Steamboat on the flying body press. Steamboat just rolled off of him.

WWF Update with Lord Alfred Hayes. This week’s subject is Greg Valentine and we see a clip of him making a jobber submit to the figure four. Hayes says that the Junkyard Dog is looking for a rematch.

Mario Mancini vs. King Kong Bundy w/Jimmy Hart

Ventura makes a joke at the expense of Bundy, stating they can use his back as the screen at a drive-in movie theater. Bundy knocks down Mancini with a back elbow smash. He slams him with one arm then hits a clothesline. The fans start a “Ding Dong” chant aimed at Bundy, who roughs up Mancini in the corner. Bundy hits the Avalanche then drops the elbow for the win, making the referee use the five count (2:33).

Thoughts: Vince was putting over Bundy strong on commentary. The fans hated Bundy too, which is a good sign for the new monster heel the WWF is trying to push.

Freddie Miller is with Roddy Piper and Bob Orton. They are cutting a promo on Jimmy Snuka, who is teaming with Hulk Hogan against Piper & Orton at the Boston Garden. Piper brings up American History and laughs at the idea of the Boston Tea Party and says that Hogan is afraid of him and brought Snuka in the match as someone who is “tough and dumb” that can face him.

Charlie Fulton vs. Paul Orndorff

Heenan comes out after Orndorff, who then grabs the mic and says that Heenan is fired. The fans go nuts as does Heenan. Ventura thinks Orndorff is stupid as a “Weasel” chant breaks out. Fulton grabs a side headlock but Orndorff escapes and hits a knee smash. He tosses Fulton to the floor then stares at Heenan. Orndorff suplexes Fulton back into the ring then destroys him with a clothesline before hitting the piledriver for the win (2:12). After the match, Heenan continues to rant and rave.

Thoughts: Although not a full-fledged babyface yet, Orndorff received about 75% cheers after the match. It seems that Heenan will be finding a guy to feud with Orndorff going forward. The slow-turn for Orndorff has worked out well so far.

Freddie Miller is now with Greg Valentine, who will be facing the Junkyard Dog at the Boston Garden. Valentine is pissed that JYD slapped Jimmy Hart at WrestleMania. Valentine calls JYD a “nasty black person” then says that he find out real soon that he is the master of the figure-four leglock.

Jim Neidhart & Brett Hart w/Jimmy Hart vs. Jim Londos & Jim Powers

Ventura puts over the team of Neidhart & Hart. Brett beats on Powers for a bit. Powers comes back with a ugly-looking crossbody that gets two. Londos tags but Hart hits a backbreaker and tags Neidhart. Londos is getting destroyed then they hit him with the Hart Attack for the win (2:35).

Thoughts: The Hart Foundation looked impressive and Ventura was putting them over strong on commentary.

Piper’s Pit with Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo. Piper says that he is with a couple of losers then is handed a roll of toilet paper from Orton, which Piper says represents their talent and that they can use that to wipe away their tears. Rotundo makes a skirt joke and Windham calls him as “has-been nothing” as Piper unwinds the roll of toilet paper. Windham and Rotundo get up and wrap it around Piper then throw it at him as they leave. Fun stuff.

Joe Mirto vs. Don Muraco w/ Mr. Fuji

Muraco attacks Mirto from behind to start. He hits a few snapmares then hits a kneelift. The crowd angers Muraco with a “beach bum” chant as he continues to destroy Mirto. Muraco catches Mirto off an Irish whip then puts him away with the tombstone (3:00).

Thoughts: Dull as Muraco is starting to decline as a worker.

Rusty Brooks & A.J. Petruzzi vs. British Bulldogs

Ventura puts over the Bulldogs for their innovative offense. Davey hits a crossbody and a sunset flip before tagging Dynamite. He hits a snap suplex and a leg drop. Dynamite is going full speed here. He hits a few more suplexes before tagging Davey. Petruzzi gets hit with a running powerslam then is able to fight back. Tag to Dynamite who kills Petruzzi with a dropkick. Brooks tags and the Bulldogs hit him with a double shoulderblock. After a bit, Petruzzi tags and hits a slam before tagging right back out. Petruzzi breaks up a sleeper hold then the match breaks down. The heels collide and Davey launches Dynamite at Brooks as he hits a headbutt. His head completely misses Brooks and hits off the mat but he covers Brooks anyway for the win (5:14).

Thoughts: The Bulldogs looked awesome and again, Ventura was putting over another new tag team strong on commentary

Freddie Miller is with Tito Santana, who will be facing Brutus Beefcake at the Boston Garden. He mentions that Beefcake and Valentine are becoming friends and says that he will come out fighting. Santana leaves then Hulk Hogan comes out. He says that first, he wanted Piper and Orton by himself. But now that he has a partner, he promises that it will be bigger than WrestleMania and that Snuka has taught him how to fly.

Next Week, Bruno Sammartino will be back. Ventura makes fun of him then puts over the British Bulldogs. In action next week are Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo. Also the team of Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake, Ken Patera, Jesse Ventura, and the debut of Mad Maxine.

Final Thoughts: Good show. Ventura was a breath of fresh air on commentary and brought life to the show. Bruno is incredibly dull in his role. Unfortunately, it was a one-shot deal for Jesse. Still, he was shining on commentary  during the “All-Star Wrestling/Maple Leaf Wrestling” shows with Jack Reynolds and on “Prime Time Wrestling” as well. The push of the tag team division continues and the Orndorff angle is going along great.