Hall of Flair

Any ideas/guesses on if Flair will be in attendance for this? Do we know what his contract was like for Impact Wrestling? I’m intrigued with the fact that Lex Luger has admitted he will be in attendance. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/219016/Lex-Luger-Talks-Exclusion-From-Horsemen-Hall-of-Fame-Induction.htm

Dave and Bryan were actually discussing this on WOL this morning, and Dave’s feeling is that TNA should pray to Buddha and all the gods that Flair actually shows up and does the induction on TV, because it would be like handing TNA a giant pile of money.  Not from any usage they might get out of Flair, but because Panda’s lawyers would have a slam dunk case of contract violation against WWE and it would be worth MILLIONS.  They could, at the bare minimum, reasonably ask for a percentage of the gate due to Flair’s name being used to advertise it ($$$), then a percentage of the DVD sales ($$$), then damages against TNA itself due to their contracted talent being illegally put on WWE TV ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$).  If they’re smart they’re already sending cease-and-desist letters as we speak, because we know that Vince is just the kind of guy to ignore them on general principles.  Or he might just cut them a cheque to shut them up.  Either way, girlfriend gon’ get paaaaaaaaaaaid.  And then on the unbelievably ironic flipside, Vince is now forbidding CM Punk from walking to the cage with Chael Sonnen and in fact has strongly recommended that he not even attend the show.  Yes, Vince’s micromanaging has now extended to telling his talent what sporting events they are allowed to attend on their days off. 

Hall of Flair

Any ideas/guesses on if Flair will be in attendance for this? Do we know what his contract was like for Impact Wrestling? I’m intrigued with the fact that Lex Luger has admitted he will be in attendance. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/219016/Lex-Luger-Talks-Exclusion-From-Horsemen-Hall-of-Fame-Induction.htm

Dave and Bryan were actually discussing this on WOL this morning, and Dave’s feeling is that TNA should pray to Buddha and all the gods that Flair actually shows up and does the induction on TV, because it would be like handing TNA a giant pile of money.  Not from any usage they might get out of Flair, but because Panda’s lawyers would have a slam dunk case of contract violation against WWE and it would be worth MILLIONS.  They could, at the bare minimum, reasonably ask for a percentage of the gate due to Flair’s name being used to advertise it ($$$), then a percentage of the DVD sales ($$$), then damages against TNA itself due to their contracted talent being illegally put on WWE TV ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$).  If they’re smart they’re already sending cease-and-desist letters as we speak, because we know that Vince is just the kind of guy to ignore them on general principles.  Or he might just cut them a cheque to shut them up.  Either way, girlfriend gon’ get paaaaaaaaaaaid.  And then on the unbelievably ironic flipside, Vince is now forbidding CM Punk from walking to the cage with Chael Sonnen and in fact has strongly recommended that he not even attend the show.  Yes, Vince’s micromanaging has now extended to telling his talent what sporting events they are allowed to attend on their days off. 

Hall of Flair

Any ideas/guesses on if Flair will be in attendance for this? Do we know what his contract was like for Impact Wrestling? I’m intrigued with the fact that Lex Luger has admitted he will be in attendance. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/219016/Lex-Luger-Talks-Exclusion-From-Horsemen-Hall-of-Fame-Induction.htm

Dave and Bryan were actually discussing this on WOL this morning, and Dave’s feeling is that TNA should pray to Buddha and all the gods that Flair actually shows up and does the induction on TV, because it would be like handing TNA a giant pile of money.  Not from any usage they might get out of Flair, but because Panda’s lawyers would have a slam dunk case of contract violation against WWE and it would be worth MILLIONS.  They could, at the bare minimum, reasonably ask for a percentage of the gate due to Flair’s name being used to advertise it ($$$), then a percentage of the DVD sales ($$$), then damages against TNA itself due to their contracted talent being illegally put on WWE TV ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$).  If they’re smart they’re already sending cease-and-desist letters as we speak, because we know that Vince is just the kind of guy to ignore them on general principles.  Or he might just cut them a cheque to shut them up.  Either way, girlfriend gon’ get paaaaaaaaaaaid.  And then on the unbelievably ironic flipside, Vince is now forbidding CM Punk from walking to the cage with Chael Sonnen and in fact has strongly recommended that he not even attend the show.  Yes, Vince’s micromanaging has now extended to telling his talent what sporting events they are allowed to attend on their days off. 

Disgusting Bob Backlund?

I was looking at the old Wrestling Observer awards, and Bob Backlund as WWF champion won the “Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic” award. Was there some story to him winning the title that’s gotten lost over time, or some scummy backstage reason for him to win it?

Well, he won the title in 1979, so it wasn’t for that.  I’m not Dave Meltzer nor was I old enough to even know what the Observer was in 1982, but if I had to guess I’d say it was Greg Valentine “winning” the title in a controversial finish, with Backlund then continuing on the tour being promoted as WWF champion when the crowd in MSG saw him “lose” it to Valentine with a goofy dazed ref finish, before they finally did a rematch so that Backlund could win it back again.  Granted Backlund winning the match and the ref awarding the belt to Valentine because he had been knocked loopy is a tad dumb, but it would hardly cause people to bat an eyelash today.  But I think that’s what the award refers to.  Around the same time, PWI also famous dropped recognition of the WWF title as a “world” title during the period when WWF was a member of the NWA again (with the justification being that he didn’t defend it enough or only against Samoans or some nonsense like that), but I don’t think it’s related to that.

Disgusting Bob Backlund?

I was looking at the old Wrestling Observer awards, and Bob Backlund as WWF champion won the “Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic” award. Was there some story to him winning the title that’s gotten lost over time, or some scummy backstage reason for him to win it?

Well, he won the title in 1979, so it wasn’t for that.  I’m not Dave Meltzer nor was I old enough to even know what the Observer was in 1982, but if I had to guess I’d say it was Greg Valentine “winning” the title in a controversial finish, with Backlund then continuing on the tour being promoted as WWF champion when the crowd in MSG saw him “lose” it to Valentine with a goofy dazed ref finish, before they finally did a rematch so that Backlund could win it back again.  Granted Backlund winning the match and the ref awarding the belt to Valentine because he had been knocked loopy is a tad dumb, but it would hardly cause people to bat an eyelash today.  But I think that’s what the award refers to.  Around the same time, PWI also famous dropped recognition of the WWF title as a “world” title during the period when WWF was a member of the NWA again (with the justification being that he didn’t defend it enough or only against Samoans or some nonsense like that), but I don’t think it’s related to that.

Disgusting Bob Backlund?

I was looking at the old Wrestling Observer awards, and Bob Backlund as WWF champion won the “Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic” award. Was there some story to him winning the title that’s gotten lost over time, or some scummy backstage reason for him to win it?

Well, he won the title in 1979, so it wasn’t for that.  I’m not Dave Meltzer nor was I old enough to even know what the Observer was in 1982, but if I had to guess I’d say it was Greg Valentine “winning” the title in a controversial finish, with Backlund then continuing on the tour being promoted as WWF champion when the crowd in MSG saw him “lose” it to Valentine with a goofy dazed ref finish, before they finally did a rematch so that Backlund could win it back again.  Granted Backlund winning the match and the ref awarding the belt to Valentine because he had been knocked loopy is a tad dumb, but it would hardly cause people to bat an eyelash today.  But I think that’s what the award refers to.  Around the same time, PWI also famous dropped recognition of the WWF title as a “world” title during the period when WWF was a member of the NWA again (with the justification being that he didn’t defend it enough or only against Samoans or some nonsense like that), but I don’t think it’s related to that.

Disgusting Bob Backlund?

I was looking at the old Wrestling Observer awards, and Bob Backlund as WWF champion won the “Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic” award. Was there some story to him winning the title that’s gotten lost over time, or some scummy backstage reason for him to win it?

Well, he won the title in 1979, so it wasn’t for that.  I’m not Dave Meltzer nor was I old enough to even know what the Observer was in 1982, but if I had to guess I’d say it was Greg Valentine “winning” the title in a controversial finish, with Backlund then continuing on the tour being promoted as WWF champion when the crowd in MSG saw him “lose” it to Valentine with a goofy dazed ref finish, before they finally did a rematch so that Backlund could win it back again.  Granted Backlund winning the match and the ref awarding the belt to Valentine because he had been knocked loopy is a tad dumb, but it would hardly cause people to bat an eyelash today.  But I think that’s what the award refers to.  Around the same time, PWI also famous dropped recognition of the WWF title as a “world” title during the period when WWF was a member of the NWA again (with the justification being that he didn’t defend it enough or only against Samoans or some nonsense like that), but I don’t think it’s related to that.

Disgusting Bob Backlund?

I was looking at the old Wrestling Observer awards, and Bob Backlund as WWF champion won the “Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic” award. Was there some story to him winning the title that’s gotten lost over time, or some scummy backstage reason for him to win it?

Well, he won the title in 1979, so it wasn’t for that.  I’m not Dave Meltzer nor was I old enough to even know what the Observer was in 1982, but if I had to guess I’d say it was Greg Valentine “winning” the title in a controversial finish, with Backlund then continuing on the tour being promoted as WWF champion when the crowd in MSG saw him “lose” it to Valentine with a goofy dazed ref finish, before they finally did a rematch so that Backlund could win it back again.  Granted Backlund winning the match and the ref awarding the belt to Valentine because he had been knocked loopy is a tad dumb, but it would hardly cause people to bat an eyelash today.  But I think that’s what the award refers to.  Around the same time, PWI also famous dropped recognition of the WWF title as a “world” title during the period when WWF was a member of the NWA again (with the justification being that he didn’t defend it enough or only against Samoans or some nonsense like that), but I don’t think it’s related to that.

Randoms

I’m actually way ahead on the Rumble rants, since the show is two weeks away and I’ve only got 11 rants left to repost.  So we’ll take a couple of days off and resume Tuesday after RAW.  Until then, to the mailbag!

Scott,
A few random questions for you:
1. Were there ever any guys who were rumored to join the Four Horsemen, nWo or DX during the glory years?  I thought the WWF did a good job of not diluting DX the way the nWo was, but were there ever any other significant names that might have made an impact in those groups?  It seems like Eddie Guerrero could have benefited from the nWo’s glory years.  Perhaps someone like Perry Saturn during the ’98/99 Horsemen when Mongo was MIA for so long?

I don’t recall anyone specifically other than Konnan jumping to WWF with the Radicalz before he pussed out and went crawling back to WCW again.  The natural fit would have been DX there.  Everyone was rumored and likely planned to join the nWo, that’s too broad.  Saturn joining the Horsemen was basically just the Revolution group, except with Shane instead of Flair as the blond figurehead. 

2. Were Test and Stephanie actually together before the HHH relationship in 1999?  Or was Test just the random guy that got the on-screen distinction of ‘dating the boss’s daughter’ for the Union-Corporation feud?

Test was just the random guy who happened to luck into a great storyline opportunity.

3. Was Owen Hart ever close to being released in ’97/98 so he could join Bret in WCW?  Was Owen really pushing for that?

He wanted to, absolutely, but Bret talked him out of it because the financial cost of getting out of his contract would have been huge.  If I had a time machine, I’d go back and tell Owen to get out of his contract at all costs and go to WCW, even if it meant retiring for a while.  And then I’d bet a lot of money on sporting events, but the Owen thing first.

4. Has there ever been any sort of ‘evidence’ of the Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon rumors, or is it pure urban legend that picked up steam on the internet?  The whole “well, why else would Vince hold such a grudge” theory is no kind of answer, but that’s what everyone seems to come up with.

It’s an urban legend to which no one has provided a shred of evidence to support.  To quote Lionel Hutz, “Hearsay and conjecture are KINDS of evidence…”

5. Do you think the ’94-’95 WWF would have done better business had Scott Steiner accepted the main event ‘jesus push’ and potentially been the new, more athletic Hogan?  A Hogan-like Steiner beating Yokozuna and the Dibiase Corporation guys like Bigelow, Kama, etc. and perhaps an eventual Steiner-Hart Wrestlemania match?

Given the short shelf life that Steiner actually had, I’d say no.  It seemed like the right idea at the time, but hindsight says that by the time he made his big return to WCW in late 95 as a roided monster he was already falling of a cliff. 

Randoms

I’m actually way ahead on the Rumble rants, since the show is two weeks away and I’ve only got 11 rants left to repost.  So we’ll take a couple of days off and resume Tuesday after RAW.  Until then, to the mailbag!

Scott,
A few random questions for you:
1. Were there ever any guys who were rumored to join the Four Horsemen, nWo or DX during the glory years?  I thought the WWF did a good job of not diluting DX the way the nWo was, but were there ever any other significant names that might have made an impact in those groups?  It seems like Eddie Guerrero could have benefited from the nWo’s glory years.  Perhaps someone like Perry Saturn during the ’98/99 Horsemen when Mongo was MIA for so long?

I don’t recall anyone specifically other than Konnan jumping to WWF with the Radicalz before he pussed out and went crawling back to WCW again.  The natural fit would have been DX there.  Everyone was rumored and likely planned to join the nWo, that’s too broad.  Saturn joining the Horsemen was basically just the Revolution group, except with Shane instead of Flair as the blond figurehead. 

2. Were Test and Stephanie actually together before the HHH relationship in 1999?  Or was Test just the random guy that got the on-screen distinction of ‘dating the boss’s daughter’ for the Union-Corporation feud?

Test was just the random guy who happened to luck into a great storyline opportunity.

3. Was Owen Hart ever close to being released in ’97/98 so he could join Bret in WCW?  Was Owen really pushing for that?

He wanted to, absolutely, but Bret talked him out of it because the financial cost of getting out of his contract would have been huge.  If I had a time machine, I’d go back and tell Owen to get out of his contract at all costs and go to WCW, even if it meant retiring for a while.  And then I’d bet a lot of money on sporting events, but the Owen thing first.

4. Has there ever been any sort of ‘evidence’ of the Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon rumors, or is it pure urban legend that picked up steam on the internet?  The whole “well, why else would Vince hold such a grudge” theory is no kind of answer, but that’s what everyone seems to come up with.

It’s an urban legend to which no one has provided a shred of evidence to support.  To quote Lionel Hutz, “Hearsay and conjecture are KINDS of evidence…”

5. Do you think the ’94-’95 WWF would have done better business had Scott Steiner accepted the main event ‘jesus push’ and potentially been the new, more athletic Hogan?  A Hogan-like Steiner beating Yokozuna and the Dibiase Corporation guys like Bigelow, Kama, etc. and perhaps an eventual Steiner-Hart Wrestlemania match?

Given the short shelf life that Steiner actually had, I’d say no.  It seemed like the right idea at the time, but hindsight says that by the time he made his big return to WCW in late 95 as a roided monster he was already falling of a cliff. 

Randoms

I’m actually way ahead on the Rumble rants, since the show is two weeks away and I’ve only got 11 rants left to repost.  So we’ll take a couple of days off and resume Tuesday after RAW.  Until then, to the mailbag!

Scott,
A few random questions for you:
1. Were there ever any guys who were rumored to join the Four Horsemen, nWo or DX during the glory years?  I thought the WWF did a good job of not diluting DX the way the nWo was, but were there ever any other significant names that might have made an impact in those groups?  It seems like Eddie Guerrero could have benefited from the nWo’s glory years.  Perhaps someone like Perry Saturn during the ’98/99 Horsemen when Mongo was MIA for so long?

I don’t recall anyone specifically other than Konnan jumping to WWF with the Radicalz before he pussed out and went crawling back to WCW again.  The natural fit would have been DX there.  Everyone was rumored and likely planned to join the nWo, that’s too broad.  Saturn joining the Horsemen was basically just the Revolution group, except with Shane instead of Flair as the blond figurehead. 

2. Were Test and Stephanie actually together before the HHH relationship in 1999?  Or was Test just the random guy that got the on-screen distinction of ‘dating the boss’s daughter’ for the Union-Corporation feud?

Test was just the random guy who happened to luck into a great storyline opportunity.

3. Was Owen Hart ever close to being released in ’97/98 so he could join Bret in WCW?  Was Owen really pushing for that?

He wanted to, absolutely, but Bret talked him out of it because the financial cost of getting out of his contract would have been huge.  If I had a time machine, I’d go back and tell Owen to get out of his contract at all costs and go to WCW, even if it meant retiring for a while.  And then I’d bet a lot of money on sporting events, but the Owen thing first.

4. Has there ever been any sort of ‘evidence’ of the Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon rumors, or is it pure urban legend that picked up steam on the internet?  The whole “well, why else would Vince hold such a grudge” theory is no kind of answer, but that’s what everyone seems to come up with.

It’s an urban legend to which no one has provided a shred of evidence to support.  To quote Lionel Hutz, “Hearsay and conjecture are KINDS of evidence…”

5. Do you think the ’94-’95 WWF would have done better business had Scott Steiner accepted the main event ‘jesus push’ and potentially been the new, more athletic Hogan?  A Hogan-like Steiner beating Yokozuna and the Dibiase Corporation guys like Bigelow, Kama, etc. and perhaps an eventual Steiner-Hart Wrestlemania match?

Given the short shelf life that Steiner actually had, I’d say no.  It seemed like the right idea at the time, but hindsight says that by the time he made his big return to WCW in late 95 as a roided monster he was already falling of a cliff. 

Randoms

I’m actually way ahead on the Rumble rants, since the show is two weeks away and I’ve only got 11 rants left to repost.  So we’ll take a couple of days off and resume Tuesday after RAW.  Until then, to the mailbag!

Scott,
A few random questions for you:
1. Were there ever any guys who were rumored to join the Four Horsemen, nWo or DX during the glory years?  I thought the WWF did a good job of not diluting DX the way the nWo was, but were there ever any other significant names that might have made an impact in those groups?  It seems like Eddie Guerrero could have benefited from the nWo’s glory years.  Perhaps someone like Perry Saturn during the ’98/99 Horsemen when Mongo was MIA for so long?

I don’t recall anyone specifically other than Konnan jumping to WWF with the Radicalz before he pussed out and went crawling back to WCW again.  The natural fit would have been DX there.  Everyone was rumored and likely planned to join the nWo, that’s too broad.  Saturn joining the Horsemen was basically just the Revolution group, except with Shane instead of Flair as the blond figurehead. 

2. Were Test and Stephanie actually together before the HHH relationship in 1999?  Or was Test just the random guy that got the on-screen distinction of ‘dating the boss’s daughter’ for the Union-Corporation feud?

Test was just the random guy who happened to luck into a great storyline opportunity.

3. Was Owen Hart ever close to being released in ’97/98 so he could join Bret in WCW?  Was Owen really pushing for that?

He wanted to, absolutely, but Bret talked him out of it because the financial cost of getting out of his contract would have been huge.  If I had a time machine, I’d go back and tell Owen to get out of his contract at all costs and go to WCW, even if it meant retiring for a while.  And then I’d bet a lot of money on sporting events, but the Owen thing first.

4. Has there ever been any sort of ‘evidence’ of the Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon rumors, or is it pure urban legend that picked up steam on the internet?  The whole “well, why else would Vince hold such a grudge” theory is no kind of answer, but that’s what everyone seems to come up with.

It’s an urban legend to which no one has provided a shred of evidence to support.  To quote Lionel Hutz, “Hearsay and conjecture are KINDS of evidence…”

5. Do you think the ’94-’95 WWF would have done better business had Scott Steiner accepted the main event ‘jesus push’ and potentially been the new, more athletic Hogan?  A Hogan-like Steiner beating Yokozuna and the Dibiase Corporation guys like Bigelow, Kama, etc. and perhaps an eventual Steiner-Hart Wrestlemania match?

Given the short shelf life that Steiner actually had, I’d say no.  It seemed like the right idea at the time, but hindsight says that by the time he made his big return to WCW in late 95 as a roided monster he was already falling of a cliff. 

Randoms

I’m actually way ahead on the Rumble rants, since the show is two weeks away and I’ve only got 11 rants left to repost.  So we’ll take a couple of days off and resume Tuesday after RAW.  Until then, to the mailbag!

Scott,
A few random questions for you:
1. Were there ever any guys who were rumored to join the Four Horsemen, nWo or DX during the glory years?  I thought the WWF did a good job of not diluting DX the way the nWo was, but were there ever any other significant names that might have made an impact in those groups?  It seems like Eddie Guerrero could have benefited from the nWo’s glory years.  Perhaps someone like Perry Saturn during the ’98/99 Horsemen when Mongo was MIA for so long?

I don’t recall anyone specifically other than Konnan jumping to WWF with the Radicalz before he pussed out and went crawling back to WCW again.  The natural fit would have been DX there.  Everyone was rumored and likely planned to join the nWo, that’s too broad.  Saturn joining the Horsemen was basically just the Revolution group, except with Shane instead of Flair as the blond figurehead. 

2. Were Test and Stephanie actually together before the HHH relationship in 1999?  Or was Test just the random guy that got the on-screen distinction of ‘dating the boss’s daughter’ for the Union-Corporation feud?

Test was just the random guy who happened to luck into a great storyline opportunity.

3. Was Owen Hart ever close to being released in ’97/98 so he could join Bret in WCW?  Was Owen really pushing for that?

He wanted to, absolutely, but Bret talked him out of it because the financial cost of getting out of his contract would have been huge.  If I had a time machine, I’d go back and tell Owen to get out of his contract at all costs and go to WCW, even if it meant retiring for a while.  And then I’d bet a lot of money on sporting events, but the Owen thing first.

4. Has there ever been any sort of ‘evidence’ of the Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon rumors, or is it pure urban legend that picked up steam on the internet?  The whole “well, why else would Vince hold such a grudge” theory is no kind of answer, but that’s what everyone seems to come up with.

It’s an urban legend to which no one has provided a shred of evidence to support.  To quote Lionel Hutz, “Hearsay and conjecture are KINDS of evidence…”

5. Do you think the ’94-’95 WWF would have done better business had Scott Steiner accepted the main event ‘jesus push’ and potentially been the new, more athletic Hogan?  A Hogan-like Steiner beating Yokozuna and the Dibiase Corporation guys like Bigelow, Kama, etc. and perhaps an eventual Steiner-Hart Wrestlemania match?

Given the short shelf life that Steiner actually had, I’d say no.  It seemed like the right idea at the time, but hindsight says that by the time he made his big return to WCW in late 95 as a roided monster he was already falling of a cliff. 

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it. 

Old School Internets

Hey Scott, I just posted something at a G.I. Joe forum (of all things) that’s an off-topic thought that might or might not provide interesting fodder for the blog: My wife and I got to talking tonight about how much the internet has changed just in the past fifteen years or so that we’ve been together.
At some point in the ’90s, we had AOL accounts. I vaguely remember that… christ, the memories are VERY vague. Technology changes so quickly anymore that everything gets buried.
You wouldn’t access a website through AOL, but instead there were dedicated AOL sites for things. Is that right?  

I distinctly remember visiting the WWF site and hearing Vince McMahon’s voice say “Welcome to the WWF on America Online!”
It’s not like I hear Vince welcoming me to the WWE on Firefox today.
I read something interesting on The Week recently:
http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/223127/the-higher-costs-of-higher-education#12
Isn’t dial-up dead?
posted on November 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM
3.5 million
Number of U.S. subscribers that still pay roughly $17.50/month for Aol’s dial-up internet service, as of September, 2011
200,000
Number of new dial-up subscribers Aol signed up over the last year
50
Approximate factor by which the the typical U.S. broadband connection is faster than the typical dial-up connection
Sources: Net Index, Splatf
Is there a website where one can see what the web looked like fifteen years ago? I know people laugh about their old GeoCities pages, but even more utilitarian sites like Yahoo! or whatever have changed considerably. I remember that a friend of mine used to write a weekly comic book-themed newsletter, and sometimes it would be 10 pages long… and that would crash my computer.
Most sites have so many graphics and videos and things that no connection could have handled them back then.
I feel like a damn Luddite anymore.
I realize this is a scatterbrained post, but now that I reflect on it, the internet has changed so much since I first started using it that I can’t even get my ideas together about it.
Thoughts? Resources? Jokes at my expense?

Well, I came from the elitist world of computing science in university, where we’d access the burgeoning young internet via dedicated Unix terminals.  Or as my wife quips, “Dear internet with no pictures…”  So I don’t know much about the workings of AOL aside from everyone on RSPW getting supremely pissed off in September when newbies would flood the newsgroup, and then even more pissed off in 1995 when AOL gave access to their subscribers, none of whom knew how a newsgroup worked and most of whom were pretty clueless.  That being said, there definitely is a time machine for the internet.  www.archive.org will allow you view whatever site you want basically at whatever time you want to see it.