Sean Oliver Interview

Hey Scott,

Sean Oliver of Kayfabe Commentaries stopped by The Wrestling Estate podcast to promote his new book, share some Iron Sheik stories, play "The Dick Bag" and more. 

I figured since you guys post previews of KC's new videos, your readers may be interested in checking out his new book. It's exactly what you'd hope for and a sleeper pick for best wrestling book of the year (in a year with J.R.'s, AJ Lee's, Jericho's, I know). 

The full interview can be found here: 

Thanks as always,


​.."the Dick Bag"?​

Flair in the WWF 91-93

When Flair came in in 1991, was it always assumed at some point Herd would be out and he would go back to WCW?  When he came in, was he making the kind of money that guys like Hulk, Macho Man and Warrior were?  What was his relationship like with Vince, and
did he have any say in his creative during his time there?  Do you think WWF ever regretted letting him go back to WCW with the run he had after he came back?

​It was pretty much assumed that it wasn't going to be a long-term thing, mostly because WCW went completely into the toilet when he left and fans were revolting against Luger as the top guy.  Flair had almost no creative control and was basically just doing as he was told, and he certainly wasn't making anywhere near the money that the Hogans and Warriors were.  I don't think Vince ever regretted letting him go, because clearly it wasn't working for either side while he was there.  ​

Bad bad BAADD chemistry

Who do you believe had the worst chemistry inside the ring? I nominate DOA (including Chainz, who got his release in June iirc) vs LOD2000 (including green-as-hell Droz), their 98 matches lack any kind of timing, heat and good communication

​I dunno, they were boring but I wouldn't call them outright BAD most of the time.  Goldust in his "the artist" phase seemingly couldn't have a good match if his life depended on it, outside of the one mixed tag match.  Furnas & Lafon were a style clash with literally everyone besides Bulldog & Owen and had some of the worst matches with guys like LOD who were otherwise decent.  ​

WCW 2000 questions

Hi Scott,

Been torturing myself watching the last year of WCW and a few questions so far.

1. Why isn't thunder on the network?  it seems they really tried to make that show important to follow story lines stating in 99

2. What was the deal with Savage returning form a long hiatus to interfere in a battle royal and never heard from again?

3. Whats up with the sporadic appearances of Bret Hart getting involved? was their a chance of him returning to the ring or was it a case of using up contract dates?

I'm only in May so i've got a little less than a year to go, but i'm sue i'll have more questions

​1.  It was supposed to be dropping a couple of months ago, and then it just never materialized.  
2.  That was just "because WCW" weirdness, where they hired him for the one date and then never called him again.  Something with money, I'd assume.  
3.  ​There was no chance of him returning, doctors told him to retire in no uncertain terms.  

“Listening to the fans”

Wade Barrett said in an interview that he was explicitly told to stop using his "Got some bad news" catchphrase because it was getting over and they wanted him heel. At his peak popularity, Cesaro suddenly stopped doing the swing, the most over move on the roster at that point.
What on earth is the business sense here?!  Shouldn't a "businessman" like Vince try to monetize everything the crowd clearly likes. The two biggest stars of the past 25 years are Austin and Rock. Both were heels whose charisma and catchphrases blurred heel/face lines and they got so over it couldn't be ignored. Why not let organically over talent get a push?  If only for money reasons

​Yeah, that one was really weird, especially since they spent YEARS repackaging and repackaging him trying to find something to get him over, and then they did, and they killed the push deliberately.  But hey, it's a different business now.  ​

Most HHH thing ever?

So we had to sit through that six month title reign full of ** matches that ruined Shinsuke Nakamura just so he could headline this tour in India, which turned out to just be one show. And HHH goes over anyway. 
But Mahal got the respect handshake, so he’s a made man
Don't forget that Mahal got to bow to him as well. 


Sooo Aroluxe (incl. neonazi twins Ron&Don Harris) founded a new company called Aroluxe, which will be a "family-friendly lucha libre promotion", holding their first live event Sunday night in Nashville, booked by Konnan and Vince Russo. Chances it will succeed? Chances you will do a smark rant on it (they are going to tape it)?

​I doubt that it'll even make TV or that it would air on a channel I have any access to, even if they did.  ​

Most Cringe-Worthy Segment?

 What was the most cringe-worthy segment you have ever seen on a pro wrestling show?  Here are my "top" 2;  1.)  Paige accuses Charlotte of causing her brother to die from a drug overdose on Raw a few years back.  2.)  Vince reminding Steph on Smackdown that he used to pimp her out to business clients to "close the deal" when she was 17 years old.  Your pick(s)?

​Katie Vick.  I don't see how anything could be even close.​

Tuesday Night Taker

Is there any reason over the course of the brand split that The Undertaker was almost always on the SmackDown roster?  Even during his brief stint on Raw, he was usually on both shows since he was Undisputed Champion.

Was being Team Blue 4 Life ultimately the Deadman's choice?  Wouldn't Vince have preferred that one of his most established stars spend more time on the A Show?

Maybe but…I mean…are YOU gonna tell him that?

Crazy Like A Fox: The Definitive Chronicle of Brian Pillman 20 Years Later: Liam O’Rourke: 9781976541247: Books


There’s a new book out about Brian Pillman. No idea if it’s any good or not but wanted to let you know. 

I was not aware of it before, but Dave was raving about it on Observer radio yesterday, so it might be worth a look.  All kinds of backstage political stuff exposed, apparently.

Evil Hillbilly Jim

Hey Scott

Do you know if the WWF ever thought about turning Hillbilly Jim into a heel? A lot has been said about Paul Orndorff being a backup opponent for Hogan at WMIII if Andre couldn't go; but what about Hillbilly? Consider
the following: it was preestablished that he had been trained by Hogan. Supposedly he had gotten his first pair of wrestling boots from Hogan. So if he turns on Hogan on SNME, you've got the same dynamic as Hogan/Andre, but you've got a heel with better mic
skills and better wrestling ability than the Giant. Furthermore, you could bring back Uncle Elmer, Cousin Luke, and Cousin Junior and get a Four Horsemen like thing going on, perhaps culminating with the Megapowers versus the Megahillbillies at Summerslam
and Survivor Series. Is this just crazy fanboy booking, or did the WWF miss the boat?

​In what universe did Hillbilly Jim have either better wrestling skills or better mic skills than Andre?​