The Steve Austin Show Podcast – Interview with Hulk Hogan
AKA Shooting the breeze with Terry in Tampa
Words from Dave
After a number of requests that verged on going into double figures, I’ve done a recap of Hulk Hogan’s recent appearance on Steve Austin’s podcast. Not promising the style, quality and technique of Scott or Brian, but I am doing a job so that they don’t have to.
Full disclosure, I’m a big fan of Steve Austin from back in the day and never had a problem with Hulk like some people do. Yeah, he’s a known and recorded bullshitter, but he’s never come across as incredibly malicious to me. I can compartmentalise his character from some of the questionable things that have happened in his personal life. I’ll try and add in some comments throughout as they come, but I’m not going for a blow-by-blow debunking of him.
Austin does at times ask some long-winded questions and Hulk skips back and forth in the timeline, which is itself sketchy. Steve will also ask him a question that he never answers, for instance a question about Tony Altimore being his chaperone early on is completely avoided when he starts rambling about something else. To try and combat that, even though he might jump around between talking about eras and promotions, I’ll just put a bunch of different points in under the same heading.
On the preamble, Steve talks about being down in Tampa for the Raw Reunion and hanging out with Lilian Garcia and having a good time. He’d also called Hulk about doing an interview with him on the trip, which included spending time at his place then going out for sushi at a nearby restaurant in Hulk’s Dodge Challenger. Even though Steve’s not a great believer in and doesn’t think about the idea of a Mount Rushmore of wrestling, if he did Hulk would be up there with Andre, Flair, ‘Taker, etc.
Austin was leery about Hogan coming into WCW in ‘94 and hesitant about working with him in the WWF when he came back in 2002, although he says he wishes he had now (TLDR: he was very paranoid at the time about Hulk trying to siphon heat off him to get over again). He then talks about the idea of them having heat, which he says they really didn’t (although it didn’t stop him taking a potshot at him at the Hall of Fame one year with Bret Hart), so he called him up a few years ago and they ended up cool with one another. To me, this says as much about Steve’s frame of the mind as it does about Hulk’s self-serving nature.
There will be a follow-up in the future where they chat further, because ninety minutes is not enough time to talk about Hulk’s career.
Introduction, how’s Hulk these days?
Getting into the interview, they talk about how Hulk’s doing these days at age 66. Hulk says he’ll get his “Woe is me” story out of the way, but he’s had problems for a long time with his knees (both now replaced), hips (both now replaced, and he wrestled the Rock after his one hip and knee had been replaced), and most notably his back. He wanted to have fusion surgery like Shawn did so he could carry on working longer, but his doctors talked him out of it.
Six operations later, a lot had been cut out of him and he was taken out of the game. His wife (not Linda by then) was told he’d never walk again, but after three more surgeries he out of the wheelchair (DN: why can’t I remember this? He definitely had some serious issues with his back around his TNA time, but not to where he was immobilised). He can work out now with light weights and tries to take vitamins (DN: glad to hear he’s following his demandments still) and eat organic food, but arthritis is affecting him now.
Both of Hulk’s parents had bad arthritis in their hands, but he’s doing OK all things considered. It takes him 90 minutes before he can stand up straight in the morning and get the blood flowing, though. Steve talks about his problems with both his knees, shoulders and three broken bones in his back, but strangely doesn’t mention the neck problems! Hulk describes the arthritis as constant pain, he doesn’t have good grip in his hands and the pain shoots up his arms to the back of his head, but he has good days and bad days and it can depend on factors like the weather and if he’s been drinking, as alcohol apparently dehydrates the joints. Things like fish oil and painkillers help, but nothing takes it completely away.
This leads into the weird discussion about CBD and stem cell injections, which Hulk went to Guatemala to undergo and had a “Joan Rivers moment” on the table (DN: Joan died during surgery). His wife spotted his eyes rolling back when they started the infusion and he felt like he had 25 elephants sitting on his chest (DN: or ten Andre the Giants), but they got him back. Turned out that the stem cells had been soaked in DMSO, which he is allergic to, so now he has his work done in Tampa at a rejuvenation centre. He feels the improvement immediately afterwards, but it doesn’t last too long and is expensive.
Steve shares his own weird story about wrestlers who used to crush up some aspirin in a plastic bag and put it on their hands to rub DMSO on injured areas. According to Hulk, Butch Miller’s breath STUNK of DMSO (DN: sure that wasn’t sardines, Terry?). Hulk says some people will put his back problems down to the impact of the legdrop or steroids, but apparently he had a curved spine that wasn’t picked up for a long time
Steve asks Hulk about how with him not being an athlete beyond playing some baseball and being more of a student and musician, did the veterans ever caution him on how many bumps he should be taking? Quite the contrary, as Hiro Matsuda said real wrestlers don’t wear kneepads (DN: typical tough guy bullshit), but after two years of being stretched by Brian Blair and Gordon Nelson his knees were shot, so he started wearing the pads. He wouldn’t change a thing, but today he feels every bit of all the bumps he took in Japan on the concrete for “Hansen, and all those idiots” (DN: I got the impression he wasn’t lumping in Hansen with the idiots).
The Florida style
Austin compliments Hogan’s speed and wrestling ability, which was picked up from the likes of Nelson, Jack and Jerry Brisco, Pat Patterson and Steve Keirn, who all taught him the Florida style. Hulk was in the year below Keirn and Mike Graham, who didn’t like him for a long time, at high school. Hulk talks about being a big mark with long, blonde hair who was going to go to college and become an accountant and play in bands on the side, but he went around town bragging about how he was going to become a big wrestling star, so Matsuda broke his leg and told him to get out.
This leads to a weird Fritz-like moment where apparently his dad got mad at him and told him he shouldn’t ever let anyone hurt him like that and that nobody would do that to his older brother, who was a tough guy biker. Hulk took four months to heal, then went back to pick his training up with shorter hair and a more serious attitude.
After being broken in, he lasted eight months working for the Fullers and making no money, then started working on the docks. Then he went to work for Lawler and Jarrett, who told him much like the Fullers did to not go down for anything for and be invincible, which only lasted so long before he went back to working on the docks. After that he went to New York in ‘78 as a heel until he was fired by Vince Sr. for taking the Thunderlips part in Rocky 3 (DN: the timeline doesn’t really match up here, but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story).
A little bit of a contradictory comes up (DN: as if that would happen with Hulk, right?) when he talks about how he had heat with Patera and Blackwell in the AWA for not going down for moves on orders from Verne. However, later he talks about how he’d planned to come in as a heel but was instantly programmed with Jesse Ventura and had to learn how to sell via staying down, crawling on the ground and keeping his head up. Austin compliments him on his selling, which he says is one of the main components of being a successful wrestler, the others being working, rap, charisma and size.
Learning to work
Japan was the first place he could start learning to work and bumping, because there was little discussion prior the matches so he didn’t have the bookers telling him to wrestle like Andre, selling as little as possible. He realises now that Dusty was subconsciously a big influence on him. Seeing the likes of Billy Graham, Ivan Putski, Ivan Koloff and the Mighty Igor (big, thick, muscular guys) being sent down to Florida by Vince Sr. influenced how he wanted to look, but seeing Dusty going down like a blob straight away and selling and getting a big reaction influenced him equally. The way he put it was look like Graham, sell like Dusty.
Austin loved Hogan in Rocky 3 and was already aware of him as he’d been following wrestling since he was 7, but that really pushed him over the edge. The WWWF exit saw him staying in Japan with a girlfriend he had over there (DN: that must’ve made for a funny picture with giant Hogan next to a little Japanese girl), but pictures and promo tapes he sent to Verne brought him back to the States.
Austin asks about Eddie Graham and what he was like. Hulk talks again about being a mark who thought the business was real, even in his early matches, which he claims brought the other wrestlers to the curtain to watch him trying to really wrestle his way out of the moves Blair and Nelson had him in (DN: sounds like a good story for being self-deprecating, but I don’t buy it). To this effect, as much as he feared Matsuda he was even more scared of Graham, who he likens to Austin as another tough guy, until Graham took him aside and taught him how to work holds, at which point he discovered kayfabe and that the business was a work, which got him crying. Once he was smartened up, he was the guy they stuck marks in with at first before they set loose Bob Orton Sr. and Bob Roop on them (DN: yeah, right!).
Austin talks about his own experience of being a big, muscular, ex-football player when he first started and how Tojo Yamamoto sat him down and taught him about selling by having him grab his ear lightly but reacting like he was tearing it off. Austin learnt then how you can get so much out of so little if you can work and you can sell.
The AWA and going to New York
Steve tries to ask Hulk about having Tony Altimore alongside him in his early New York days, but Hulk goes off on a tangent about being in the AWA, staying at a hotel where he could bang air stewardesses all day, and being the replacement for the Crusher as the tough guy babyface in the territory. I’m guessing Linda must’ve been a stewardess too, then. Steve Taylor of the WWF saw him in Minneapolis before a main event featuring him, Brunzell and Greg against Adnan, Patera and Blackwell and gave him Vince’s card. Hulk was reticent about returning to the WWF after the Rocky 3 situation, but Taylor told him Vince Jr. had taken over and had big plans for him as the main star of the promotion. Hulk obviously made the call.
Vince wanted Hulk to come to New York, but Hulk knew news of that would get him heat back home, so Vince flew in and Linda picked him up (DN: Hulk’s instruction to her, who didn’t know what he looked like, was to look for the guy with the big shoulder pads and bright suit). Vince revealed his plan of invading the territories and taking over the US and going international with Hulk as his figurehead. Hulk was fearful of the reaction of the likes of Harley Race (DN: rightly so!) but still agreed.
He’d actually just bought a house off Kathy Gagne, who Verne was trying to set him up with (“She had a great body, but looked just like Greg in the face!”). He was booked for months with Nick Bockwinkel in cage match main events, but his argument over t-shirt sales with Verne and the subsequent tussle he had with him that he won (DN: Verne asked if he knew any other holds, which Hulk replied all he needed to know was that one to beat him) saw him and David Schultz and their respective wives head to New York.
Becoming the champ and David Schultz
Hulk claims he was supposed to win the belt on his first night at MSG, but he did some TV shows first with Bob Backlund as his partner. Although they’d been friends before and worked out together, Backlund got really upset that a guy who wasn’t a “real wrestler” was getting the belt instead of him regaining it, which led to their split and Bob’s subsequent departure. Hulk claims Vince Sr. tried to put the breaks on making Hulk the champ, but Vince Jr. talked him around and got his way. The Iran hostage crisis was a great backdrop for uber-patriot Hogan to beat the Sheik in January.
Hulk proliferates the urban legend that Verne offered Sheik $100k to break Hulk’s leg in the match (Austin: “Shoot?!”, Hogan: “Shoot!”). Austin asks about David Schultz, who he actually had never seen at the time and was shocked in retrospect how close they were in mannerisms and style. Hogan says that Superstar was really the first iteration of Austin, the heel that got so over that he became a massive star (DN: good point, although there had been the likes of Dick the Bruiser too).
Hogan talks about how having to lose the belt really fucked up Superstar mentally while also taking time to talk about how in one of his wrestling breaks he was working with a guy that owned a gym and just worked out like a maniac, drinking two gallons of milk a day and eating loads of yoghurts, bringing his arms up to 24 inches. He doesn’t deny that “gimmicks” helped that a lot too (DN: we’re not in 1991 and on Arsenio any more). He called up Graham one time to brag about it, who then directed him to Pensacola and Louis Tillet. He walked into the heel locker room by mistake, where he met Schultz and Honky for the first time. They eventually let him be their roommate when they realised he was sleeping in his van next to their apartment building while he was hanging out with Afa and Sika and drinking, smoking weed and fighting with people all day. This is obviously an out-of-sequence story too, because he talks about how he got over entirely on his look but not being able to work a lick, just getting over doing Austin Idol’s strongman stuff.
Back to leaving Verne, even with the money that could be made it was still his inner mark that won out, because he was promised the belt and wanted to see how it felt being the man on top. He talks about people who bragged about making guaranteed contracts a thing (DN: he doesn’t say who, but it feels like it should be Hall and Nash), yet he had one in ‘83. A ten year deal with a minimum guarantee, but he was only planning on staying a year. The lure and the success kept him there until the nineties.
The t-shirt blowup with Verne was a big factor in how he went on. Hulk takes credit for merchandising, music in wrestling, and reluctantly bringing lawyers into wrestling, because he couldn’t manage all that stuff by himself. They helped bridge him into movies and television. He says a lot of what he was doing got him heat, but the money they made is the bottom line. Austin backs this up by saying that having fun in the ring and fun in the car with the boys drinking beer is great, but the main thing is making money.
WrestleMania at the time wasn’t seen as the big corporate thing it is today. Hulk was in the office all day at the time with Vince and eventually Pat as well. Vince rolled the dice on it to make it a success, putting up the money from his own property to bankroll it. Hulk and Vince had a weird relationship which only got tense when one or the other of them started getting a big head (DN: so early on, then?). Austin talks about how you need to have a relationship with Vince to be a success, which both he and Hulk did.
In his first run, Hulk saw Vince parting with Don Muraco and the Grand Wizard sometimes, but he was mostly by Vince Sr.’s side. In the big run, business brought them together and the friendship blossomed, to where they’d spend all day together either working in the office together or doing manly, non-homoerotic things like pumping iron and riding motorcycles (DN: if only Eric Bischoff had that aptitude for lifting weights!). Nobody loves the business more than Vince, including super-mark Hogan.
David Schultz is credited with coming up with the WrestleMania name and concept, and he was supposed to be in the spot that Paul Orndorff was in, but his run-in with Mr. T in LA where he “shot his own angle” and ended up getting carted off in chains saw him off (DN: the John Stossel slap situation isn’t mentioned at all).
Things took off instantly, exploding like a volcano (DH: his simile, not mine). Hulk casually takes credit for the 1980 sellout at Shea Stadium with Andre, before giving passing credit to Bruno and Larry too. He remembers it being instant sellouts from the moment he won the belt. He would get a bit of heat for not being at the building on time every night, but only one time did he miss a shot due to bad fog (DN: him and Bret both!).
The difference between wrestling Andre in 1980 and in 1987 was that Andre liked Hulk by then. Initially Andre was annoyed by Hulk’s pretensions that he could be “as big” as him, so he beat on him in the ring and for a long time Hulk would puke before getting to the building to wrestle Andre. They became buddies in Japan when super-shooter Hogan was able to handle himself against Tatsumi Fujinami and “Karl Gotch’s boys” in quasi-shoots.
There was also the big difference of Andre not being as physically fit and healthy by 1987, which made Hulk worry that he wouldn’t go along with stuff in the ring with him. Andre told him not to worry, but he was as he didn’t think he’d go up for the slam or stay down for the pinfall.
Hulk says Vince put doubts in his mind the night before WrestleMania III by talking about his concern of if Andre wouldn’t go with the plan, so Hulk put together a DDP-like list of stuff on paper for Vince to revise and recite to Andre as his plan for the match. If Andre had known it was written down he wouldn’t have gone with it, but when Vince relayed Hulk’s plans as his own Andre was happy to go with it (DN: someone should do a side-by-side comparison of Hulk’s list for his match and Savage’s list for his).
The non-programme with Austin
Hulk cuts into talking about how much money he and Austin could’ve made together in 2002 (or rather how much money HE could’ve made) had Austin gone for it, with Hulk as the returning heel from WCW as part of the nWo and Austin as the new WWF hero. Steve sounds a bit embarrassed and uncomfortable talking about it, saying they’ll discuss it later, but he puts it down to being frazzled and in a bad place at the time. He realises now they should’ve gone in a room at the time and had a long talk, but the time has passed now.
Austin actually starts talking about his reticence about Hulk coming into WCW in ‘94, because he had it in mind he was moving up the card to wrestle Flair and co., but Hulk coming in see him head down the card instead (DN: boy, did he ever!). He puts it down to natural competitiveness, using his changing opinion of Shawn Michaels as an example (now: the greatest of all time, then: a highspot artist). Austin says he loved Hulk back in the day as a fan (DN: sounds genuine) but regrets working himself into a shoot when his head wasn’t in the right place.
Hulk sympathises, because there were times in WCW where he had problems at home so wasn’t always friendly and outgoing when it came to the other boys (DN: I bet having his own locker room only worsened that). He talks about having heat with CM Punk because when he came into the locker room for the Raw 15th anniversary show he didn’t know who he was so didn’t really greet him (DN: it’s only Punk, he would’ve been miserable if Hulk had made a big song and dance about meeting him too).
Hulk expected to work with Austin first, but was put with the Rock instead, and imagined that Austin was either having physical or maybe mental problems at the time, so didn’t push. He says if it was physical problems he would’ve done “a Ray Stevens” and worked around it and not touched whatever was injured, but it’s a moot point (DN: no ego on Hulk with the Stevens comparison, hey?).
The Ultimate Warrior
Austin first saw Warrior as a Freedom Fighter and Blade Runner and Dingo Warrior and thought he was great, although he wasn’t the best worker. He would call “Jim” every now and again, but always referred to him as “Warrior” (DN: would’ve loved to have heard those calls!). They’d become friends at WrestleMania XII when Warrior came back. He always treated Austin well and showed him respect.
This segues into discussion of the Ultimate Challenge, which Austin noticed Hogan walking Warrior through when he was blown up and wanting to go home early. This draws a comparison to Flair, who Hulk and Austin see as the best wrestler of all time, because he could work as well as having the gimmick. Warrior had the showbiz, bundles of charisma, but not the go-biz.
Hulk talks about how when he came in, his big selling points were the red and yellow, the look, the body, the tan, the blonde hair… When Warrior came in, he had a better body, better look, more colours, so was ostensibly more appealing to Vince (DN: that’s fair comment knowing Vince’s bodybuilder fetish). They had a good buildup, but Hulk questioned why Warrior was going over and what was happening next. Vince’s answer was that he thought the day of Hulk in red and yellow was over, so Hulk wasn’t happy with that.
Hulk then started thinking about how after he’d orchestrated everything purposely to draw more attention to himself on the way out of the ring than Warrior had in the ring that he could maybe get halfway up the aisle, turn around, run back in and beat the shit out of Warrior and leave him laying and then reinvent himself as Triple H, Hollywood Hulk Hogan (DN: remember, this is 1990 – he may as well have just been Stone Cold Hollywood Hulk Hogan, the Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment, If You Smell What the Hulk is Cooking). Vince said that wouldn’t work (DN: what a fool, Vince!), so he squashed it.
When Warrior wasn’t drawing (DN: Hulk doesn’t say it, but he implies he was drawing better in B towns than Warrior was in A towns) they came back to Hulk. Hulk wasn’t really happy with Vince at that point, which was the start of their long term turbulence (DN: I was hoping he’d tell his story about them rolling around on the carpet and shooting with one another upon one of their reunions here). He carried Warrior through the match and put him over, but saw the world championship spot as a shoot opportunity to be the highest paid man in wrestling, so wasn’t happy about losing that (DN: strangely, no similar comments about Randy having that spot in ‘88, but I guess he was planning on counting his millions from No Holds Barred at that point).
This veers into discussion of how he wanted the guys that he beat as champion to be better on the way down than when they’d come in. The One Man Gang was happy to take the big boot and legdrop, but Piper and Orndorff refused to go down. Hulk said he would’ve dropped the belt to Piper so that they could’ve had a hot programme and exchanged the belt back and forth had he been willing to do a job (DN: but what about the money, Hulk?). Piper apparently regretted not going with it later and not making more money (DN: what a fool he was!). Hulk had finishes in mind for guys who were willing or not to play ball (DN: Vince showed he did as well too).
Austin actually backs Hogan on this, saying that if you’re laying down for everyone it’s going to tarnish your value. This leads him back to Warrior, who he would’ve actually liked to have seen Hulk go over, and he loved how Hulk kicked out on two and three quarters on the pin – gotta save yourself! Hulk admits again that everything was calculated to take the attention off Warrior (DN: I like Warrior, but outworking him was like poking a blind man in the eye at that point).
If ever Hulk’s loved a guy then it’s Randy (DN: easy to say now). Randy was like a brother, while Brutus was like a lost puppy (DN: does ANYONE have anything good to say about Ed Leslie these days?!). Hulk laughs about how when they were kids (Brutus is a few years younger) they’d tell Brutus to be at the beach for a certain time, having been there for hours already without him. Back to Randy, they fell out, then made up, and he misses him now.
Hulk knew the magic ingredient with getting Randy over was Elizabeth. The first bit of heat he and Randy had was in Paris when she was managing Hulk against Randy (with Sherri) and he lifted her up on to the apron under her arms because there were no steps. Randy went apeshit and accused him of touching her tits, so it was a very stiff match. Backstage, Hulk nearly took a door off the hinges (which he admits it was already hanging onto by a thread anyway) before they went aside and settled things.
Randy never relaxed and was always paranoid. He came in with gear that looked a bit low-rent at first, so when Hulk and Vince made suggestions about upgrading his look with the tassles and everything else he thought he was being ribbed (DN: I’m still not sure that the stetson and that whole look wasn’t a rib).
Back to Warrior
Hulk heard about Warrior holding up Vince for money prior to Summerslam ‘91 so asked Vince if he wanted him and Sarge to break his leg in the ring. My thoughts are:
Like they’d really do that on PPV
Guess once you’ve whipped Fujinami, who’s Warrior to sweat?
Hulk told that story on the Self Destruction DVD, then denied knowledge of it on a deposition tape related to Warrior’s lawsuit. Warrior responded with YouTube videos about Hulk was pimping about Linda to him when he stayed at his place and other Bollea weirdness. There was heat until they “bumped into” one another at WrestleMania XXX. Hulk says he was instructed not to approach him by Vince and had to eat shit when Warrior threw a jab at him at the Hall of Fame, but couldn’t not go up to him.
Hulk claims he didn’t notice the camera crew filming him (DN: I don’t think Hulk’s ever seen a camera he didn’t like). Warrior didn’t want to talk, but Hulk insisted and apologised to Warrior, who was drenched in sweat. He then told him he loved him and Warrior told him he loved him back and they shook hands (DN: well, I guess that makes everything alright, then). Warrior was fretting about what he was going to tell his fans after burying Hulk so hard (DN: I’m sure he would’ve thought of something). Hulk was next to Vince when Warrior came out on Raw and saw him covered in sweat and going grey and said they should get the camera off him. Warrior died the next day.
Subsequently, there have been people from “Warrior’s family” (DN: has to mean Dana) who have said that Warrior didn’t forgive Hulk and they still don’t like him, but Warrior’s “I love you too” is enough for Hulk.
Finishing up, closing questions
Hulk talks about where a lot of the components of his act came from, which took a long time for him to develop, but once it all fell into place it was gold to Austin:
Hulking up – he would see Bobo Brazil get his head rammed into the turnbuckle and not sell it and go into his dance, so he stole that.
No-selling finishers – he saw people get suplexed and be up on their feet at the same time as the person who’d done it to them. It made no sense, but it got a big reaction, so he took it.
Lou Ferrigno turning into the Incredible Hulk, with his clothes getting torn up, inspired the shirt tearing at the start of his matches (DN: that seems so obvious that it’s funny it’s been missed).
Dusty Rhodes would get beat on so much until he started wagging his finger at his opponent and started firing back, so Hulk cribbed that.
Austin Idol used to cup his ear and lean over the ropes to listen to the crowd. In a two-for-one deal, Hulkamania was inspired by Idolmania, which was itself inspired by Beatlemania.
The big boot was from Andre.
His original finish was the clothesline in Japan, which was from Stan Hansen, but he would bounce off the ropes as well after throwing the other guy in.
The legdrop was because nobody else was using it in an era where lots were using sunset flips, Oklahoma rolls and Octopus holds. It went well with the big boot, but he regrets using it now, not because of the effect on his body but because his selling point was having “the largest arms in the world”. If that was true, he should’ve used the sleeper hold (DN: makes sense, it worked well for Brutus when he adopted it from Piper and Adonis).
How to get over
Austin says the next time they speak they’ll discuss WCW more and the nWo (DN: that’ll be some interesting stories). Austin asks Hulk what advice he’d give to someone wanting to get over. After a weird tangent about lobsters, he says you’ve got to be different, and back in his day everyone was, but now with the Performance Centre everyone’s being programmed the same way (DN: he goes out of his way not to knock them, but also says he doesn’t know who’s training there, former big stars or preliminary guys). He thinks you have to get on the big stage first, then figure out how to get over while there, because the real proof will be instincts.
He compliments Kevin Owens on having a very specific style and look, so he was worth giving a chance, and claims he made recommendations for him to come up the main roster (DN: somehow I don’t see Hulk working with Owens if they’d been active at the same time, though). Ultimately, be a bit different, be unique, but meet the people in power somewhere in the middle while maintaining your own style.
Austin says he’s heard Chris Hemsworth is up for playing him in a biopic, which Hulk says is true. Hemsworth thinks he can win an Academy Award as Hulk (DN: I can’t see that myself!). He and Eric worked on a script together years ago with writers from Ron Howard’s studio, which they took to WWE and they passed on. It went away for a while until Todd Phillips showed interest in it. Seeing the trailer for Joker made Hulk realise that he was the man to do it (DN: I wouldn’t be using the trailer for that piece of shit as my guarantee of success). Netflix have the money to make the film, the writer of 8 Mile is ripping the script apart and rewriting it, so they’re going to see what happens.
Ron Howard (not the director) is a guy that runs Hulk’s Facebook, Instagram and Twitter accounts, which Hulk claims to know very little about (DN: that seems a shame, HH). He plugs his memorabilia shops and upcoming bar and restaurant in Clearwater (DN: I felt a little sad that he’s kinda down to that level rather than swimming in pools of money like Scrooge McDuck as he probably should be). He’s still the biggest wrestling fan in the world and tapes and watches everything (DN: I love the idea of him still taping stuff, presumably having not upgraded in the last twenty years).