Kenny Omega

Last time Cena did this with Styles he debuted a month later.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0108/621016/john-cena-posts-kenny-omega-photo-canvas-2-canvas-with/

I was thinking the same thing after Kenny failed to win the title. They would be incredibly smart to lock him up NOW instead of waiting like they did with AJ, because it’s probably inevitable anyway.

  • zahidf

    he has a year left on his contract…

    • BODConscience

      They can still give him an extention…

    • He could always quit.

      • Stan Ford

        I can’t claim to know how contracts work in Japan, but in general, if you could just “quit” a contract without any sort of financial penalty that you would consider prohibitively punitive, there’d be no reason to have contracts in the first place.

        • HartKiller_09

          They might be on a bow agreement.

          • Stan Ford

            Could be. Could also be that they had him win the G1 as a goodwill offering with no strings attached.

          • rxchrisg

            I think I love you.

    • Phrederic

      Companies could negotiate.

  • Ioan Morris

    AJ & Co. leaving caused New Japan to return to multi-year contracts for the first time in years (might even be decades). Can’t imagine they’d let Kenny win the G1 if there was any chance of him leaving in January.

    • Kenny_Reigns

      I see 0 chance of him leaving since he never dreamed of Wrestlemania and has been bashing the WWE hard for over a decade.

      • Stan Ford

        This. He’s vaguely talked about doing what is best for him and “the money” and all, but he’s not young, he can’t have much left in the tank, he left OVW for a reason and if he was using Japan as a bridge until the WWE came calling, I doubt he would have fucking learned to speak Japanese from scratch. He’s happy there and good for him.

        • He’s not young, but he’s not exactly old either. Younger than AJ when they hired him.

        • Ioan Morris

          He’s just turned 33. Nakamura joined WWE at 35, Styles at 38. He has plenty more time in Japan should he want it.

    • cultstatus

      His contract expires on January 31st. supposedly.

  • Napoleon Blownapart

    OMG Cena to NJPW confirmed.

  • I’ve never seen the guy wrestle before, just heard all the online buzz so this is literally the first I’ve seen of Kenny Omega.

    …damn, he looks like a douche. Like nWo Hall and Waltman somehow had a baby together. I don’t know his character, though, so maybe that’s a good thing?

    • Charlie Owens

      It is. He’s “The Cleaner”, ie a mob hitman, but he’s the biggest nerd in wrestling. His finisher is named after a move from a final fantasy game, he learned Japanese so he could find out how a manga ended……he’s “one of us”, pretty much.

      • Stan Ford

        Someone, maybe here, pointed out that he’s a Canadian video game nerd otaku who became a legit celebrity in a country that generally despises his type. That’s worth something.

        • Charlie Owens

          “His type” as in Canadians, video game nerds, or otakus?

          …..otakus?

          • Stan Ford

            Let’s say “in general.”

      • rxchrisg

        He’s like a ranked Street Fighter V player. He’s not in tournaments as a celeb,he’s in them to win.

  • blizake

    Not sold on the guy. He would not make the same splash here as Styles, Nakamura or even Ibushi.

    Only reason he is even in the main event is because of the talent exodus and aging stars.

    • Kanye Batista

      Omega is a talented guy but the talent exodus opened the door for him becoming a main eventer.

    • Stan Ford

      This. I’m really not super impressed by him. His promos are good when he’s not doing a super-schticky villain laugh and goofy mannerisms, but his ringwork more or less epitomizes a hybrid of the FIGHTING SPIRIT (a.k.a “sell if you feel like it”)/”all sizzle, no steak” style that HHH has claimed to hate (and that I do as well. His association with the Young Bucks makes total sense in this regard).

      I mean, good on him for doing what made him happy and finding success in it, but let’s be real. He went to Japan because what he was selling has no market on this side of the globe. I can’t see him succeeding in North America or even wanting to.

      • rxchrisg

        You’re “really not super impressed by him”???? Have you watched the match? I’m used to stupid smark shit on here but that’s absolutely the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on a wrestling board,about two steps below the people who think there was a second Ultimate Warrior.

        Jesus Christ,does the guy need to literally turn water into wine in front of your face? Are you secretly Triple H?

        • Stan Ford

          I don’t have to like what you like and vice versa.

          • J. Frizz

            Oh yes you goddamn do, PAL!

          • rxchrisg

            If you’re talking about the luxurious locks of Roman Reigns,I could do without.

      • justicegris

        I wasn’t super impressed by him originally but watching that match…that match was really good.

    • rxchrisg

      I’m not sold on this “Ric Flair” character. I think if Harley Race hadn’t retired,he’d be a nobody.

      • I’m not sold on this Ric Flair character either, but he DID just offer to sell me his Rolex for ten bucks and a box of Triscuits!

        • PhilStubington

          Still a better buy than either Jeff Jarrett’s gold or the stake in TNA Dixie has been hawking around.

        • rxchrisg

          To be the man,you gotta feed the man! Wooo!

    • dirtyearsbill

      True that he likely wouldn’t be in the main event if Styles and Nakamura were still in njpw but his 2016 was undeniable. Maybe he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to shine without the exodus but that doesn’t change the fact that he was incredible throughout the year. Did you enjoy him vs Naito and him vs Goto from the G-1? Top that off with his 6 star match last week and it’s undeniable that he’s an elite (pun intended) wrestler.

    • jig

      It’s funny because Ibushi is the one guy I would have grabbed earlier if I were the WWE. He is entertaining as hell. But he also seems to be a bit of a flake, even by Japanese standards. He walked out on NJPW on what would have been a Kenny Omega program early last year. He shines in the CWC and then turns down the WWE and now is back in NJPW with a mask on.

      For Omega, Japan seems like a perfect fit, but when you think of the potential of dream matches with no other US-based wrestling organization creating stars (even minor stars like TNA did with Styles and Joe), the only opportunity for ‘dream’ matches will come from Japan.

      • zahidf

        Isnt ibushi supposed to be crazy?

    • Peter

      Considering how bland and cookie-cutter WWE’s homegrown guys have become during the past decade, a guy like Omega could be put to great use in WWE.

  • Kanye Batista

    I honestly thought Kenny Omega would win the IWGP Title. His G-1 run was amazing and I THINK he’s the only foreigner to win the G-1 tournament. Omega is the biggest Japanophile to ever be in wrestling but the WWE is the biggest opportunity in pro wrestling.

  • Stan Ford

    He already saw what this side of the globe had to offer him and ran SCREAMING. It’s as “inevitable” as Roman winning the title at Roadblock or Shawn Michaels coming back at WM 30/31/32 (OOPS!)

    • That’s a very impressive straw man you’re building there.

      • Stan Ford

        Good counter.

        Have any other “inevitable” “truths” you wanna share? It’s probably about time to dust off the old “Austin needs the cash and will be back” chestnut again.

        • I have no idea who you’re arguing against at this point. But you seem to be entertaining yourself, so carry on.

          • Stan Ford

            😉

          • justicegris

            I think he was saying that you’ve pointed out other “inevitabilities” that might not have been so inevitable in the past (Michaels coming back being one I can recall). *shrug*. No dog in this fight though. I Read your comment as an opinion vs a declaration of fact despite the tone/wording.

    • dirtyearsbill

      To be fair, he was in developmental at a much different time. I actually hope Omega stays in njpw but I’ll be happy to watch him wherever he goes.

  • rxchrisg

    One thing I hope happens as a result of WK11 (allthough I know it’s a pipe dream) is maybe internet assholes can stop sucking cornette’s dick. Cornette is a useless,coughing,senile bumpkin who no longer has any insight into the artform. Just go on YouTube to hear him rant and rave about how Omega sucks, SIX STARS. The match got six stars. Even Wendy’s,the love of James E’s life,gave it 6 stars (check the wendy’s Twitter,I’m not joking).

    Why do some of the more neckbearded among us pretend like this moron is some kind of genius?
    He should go back to West Virginia or where ever he’s from and put his tennis racket up his ass.

    • Charlie Owens

      Don’t sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel.

    • justicegris

      Wendy’s?

      • rxchrisg

        Cornette loves eating at Wendy’s.

        • justicegris

          I meant Wendy’s gave it 6 stars? The restaurant? Do they talk about wrestling a lot?

          • rxchrisg

            They said before they could make a broken Hardy burger they had to delete McDonald’s because frozen beef patties are obsolete. No I’m not joking,the official Wendy’s Twitter said this.

          • justicegris

            This is amazing!

    • At what point would you say the juice ran out of the box? I was gonna go with “gas ran out of the tank,” but I was thinking of having an Ecto Cooler.

      • rxchrisg

        I’m almost out of ecto cooler. I wonder if it’s still available

    • JimbobJones

      I’ve been saying for years and years that Cornette’s a blowhard moron. Glad to see more people coming around.

      I have never seen any indication of the “great wrestling mind” that he supposedly has. Pretty much every time he’s been put in charge of booking, it’s been a flop because he keeps trying to force 80s southern-style booking on EVERYTHING, instead of simply using what was good about a lot of that booking (long, purposeful feuds with emotional stakes) and updating that to today’s environment. THAT’S what a great wrestling mind would do.

      (As a matter of fact, that’s EXACTLY what the Omega/Okada match did. It was classic cocky heel vs squeaky clean babyface)

      I won’t take anything away from him as a manager — one of the best of all time. But as a “great wrestling mind”, I’ve just never seen it.

      • jig

        Cornette hates the kayfabe breaking stuff (like Joey Ryan’s strong cock, wrestling a 9 year old girl, etc.). Personally, I think he’s wrong on it; kayfabe is long dead so it doesn’t matter. Honestly, I think part of it is that his art form is pretty much dead. The WWE isn’t that entertaining and doesn’t let it wrestlers be artists. What I don’t think he realizes is that he is closer (in heart) to a Kenny Omega who also sees wrestling as an art form, than he is different.

        • Manjiimortal

          Kayfabe was never alive to begin with, you have newspaper articles from the fucking 30’s talking about wrestling being worked, so nobody over the age of 5 has ever thought wrestling was “real”.

          People have always been willing to suspend their disbelieve but they never thought it was real! And if people try to come with the argument about riots in wrestling, or people trying to injure heels just consider how worked up lots of people get over TV SERIES, MOVIES and BOOKS!!

          • justicegris

            Many people over the age of 5 believed wrestling was real. I was one of them. :).

        • rxchrisg

          Maybe Joey Ryan’s penis is shoot that strong?

      • Greg Phillips

        Yep. SMW failed for a reason.

        • JimbobJones

          And his tenure in charge of ROH sucked balls, too. (It was outdated blah booking that just doesn’t work any more)

  • dirtyearsbill

    Omega seemed open to the idea of going to wwe down the road in Jim Ross’ podcast a few months back. He did say he had a lot he wanted to accomplish in Japan first but I seem to recall him hinting that he’d want to go to wwe eventually. Now might be that time. Personally I want to see him stay in njpw but we’ll just have to wait and see.

  • Just watched the match. Good match? Great match? GREATEST match? I’m leaning somewhere from “really good” to “great,” but I don’t think anybody could argue it was a “bad” match. It’s really all a matter of taste.

    I thought it built really well, which I was hoping for when I saw that the YouTube video was almost an hour long. I couldn’t take an hour of spamming finishing moves or endless rest holds. Omega and Okada both seem to have a really solid foundation, with the high spots mixed in appropriately between some fairly standard (but well paced and executed) wrestling/brawling. No blown spots, everything looked great.

    …and THEN comes the tail end of the match, which is everything I dislike about the Japanese style. Two dudes surviving shit like a dragon suplex from the top rope, a backdrop from the ring to the floor through a table (a JAPANESE table, no less!), tombstones, back and forth “FIGHTING SPIRIT~!” elbows, countless shots to the face/neck/external occipital protuberance (that’s the back of the head, Monsoon) …Kenny Omega goes down to a clothesline.

    Coming out of the match, both guys definitely impressed me. I’d watch them both again, even against different opponents. Kenny Omega being the one in question here, I think he would definitely benefit from the WWE Slow It Down philosophy. For example, I never really liked Matt Sydal or Claudio Castagnoli because they’d do nine million flashy moves that could all be finishers, but once in WWE they had to limit themselves to one or two flashy moves per match and less proved to be more. I liked Evan Bourne, and I like Cesaro.

    In closing… yeah, Kenny Omega is okay.

    • AnInternetToughGuy

      Yeah, I hate Okada’s shortarm clothesline finish too.

    • rxchrisg

      It’s on YouTube?

    • Greg Phillips

      I had the same issues with Cesaro when he was Claudio — a bunch of weird, nonsensical moves done because “it’s his thing” (jumping off the top rope to deliver a European uppercut — a move that relies on *upward* momentum in general — was strange). See also: the Young Bucks much of the time.

      It really depends on my mood. Sometimes I love that stuff, sometimes I don’t.

    • justicegris

      I found it pretty illuminating when Meltzer was talking about the match and said, “so here’s what i thought was good…well you see these two guys are awesome wrestlers!”

      I’m like WTF?! That’s the level of criteria you have for this to be 6 stars? =)

    • Peter

      The match definitely got people talking and brought attention to NJPW, Omega and Okada.
      The decision to let these guys go for 45 minutes is IMO the biggest reason for the attention. It is pretty much unheard of in this day and age to see a match this long be the main event of a major show. If the match was “only” 20-30 minutes as usual, no matter its quality, it would not receive the same attention.

      So these guys were given an opportunity and delivered, at worst, a very good, very interesting match that will be discussed for a long time. I woud call that a big artistic, career and promotional success, if nothing else.

      Meltzer’s rating is hysterical and absurd of course as five stars would have sufficed, but it also adds to the match’s aura of something special.

  • Adam Wright

    IF/WHEN he comes to WWE he will be wrestling a different style as WWE has a very different philosophy. Not only do WWE wrestlers wrestle more often than NJPW but they’re more likely to have big 1on1 matches rather than the 6 man tags NJPW prefer to keep their talent rested.

    This was Omegas first 1on1 match since October 10th. WWE can not give their talent that kind of gap between big matches (with the exception of established stars who are now part timers like Undertaker). Whilst Omega is an incredible wrestler anyone expecting him to go all out every match in WWE like he can do in NJPW is going to be dissapointed.

    • Ioan Morris

      I still resent that “philosophy” to be honest. It’s career and life shortening. Anyway, I don’t really see the major benefit for Omega himself in joining WWE, not unless they’re offering extraordinary money – and I mean part-timer money. The guy doesn’t have a wife & kids to think about (unlike Styles/Gallows/Anderson), he doesn’t crave fame (and thanks to sports illustrated, etc, he’s probably as well known as any WWE guy), he doesn’t have to wrestle 200+ times a year, and he loves Japan.

      • Greg Phillips

        “and thanks to sports illustrated, etc, he’s probably as well known as any WWE guy”

        I disagree with this to the nth degree.

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