Wrestling Observer Flashback–08.05.91

Previously on the Flashback… http://blogofdoom.com/index.php/2016/12/31/wrestling-observer-flashback-07-29-91/

Things have been pretty negative for most of 1991 thus far, so it’s time for something POSITIVE!  Dave presents the Best of 1991 thus far.

– WRESTLER OF THE YEAR:  Jumbo Tsuruta.  Dave can’t even think of a candidate for second place, because he’s the top guy in the best promotion and has great matches every night.

– MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER: Akira Hokuto.  She’s the best all-around worker in the world this year.  Honorable mention to Kenta Kobashi, who might be the hardest working guy in the world.

– BEST BABYFACE: Hulk Hogan always wins, but this year he’s dragged down by all the stuff going on right now.  Still, it would be hypocritical to suddenly let the awards be influenced by moral character.

– BEST HEEL: The Undertaker.  He’s over, the gimmick is over, and it puts people in the seats.

– FEUD OF THE YEAR:  Pickings are slim this year, although Jumbo v. Misawa has resulted in big crowds.  Tom Pritchard v. Tony Anthony in USWA has produced the hottest matches night after night.

– TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR:  Steiners had it clinched from day one, but Scott’s injury might prevent them from winning the award for the whole year.

– MOST IMPROVED:  Kyoko Inoue and Masao Orihara in Japan are both opening match workers who look to be big stars soon now.

– BEST ON INTERVIEWS:  Again, pickings are slim this year, so we’ll have to settle for Eddie Gilbert or Randy Savage.

– MOST CHARISMATIC:  Still Hogan, but if they’re serious about the steroid thing, the main man next year will be Undertaker.  (Spoiler:  They’re not.) 

– BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER:  Hiro Hase.

– BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD:  Bull Nakano.  Granted, no one will pick a woman as best brawler, but there’s not many pure brawlers in the major promotions.  Maybe Cactus Jack if he wrestled more.

– BEST FLYING WRESTLER:  Yoshihiro Asai.  Some may pick Jushin Liger, but Asai has a wider range of moves and looks better doing them.

– MOST UNDERRATED:  Naoki Sano.  The best wrestler in SWS, but he does jobs for WWF guys in a curtain jerking role.

– BEST PROMOTION:  Dave thinks All Japan will win, but thinks All Japan Women SHOULD win.

– BEST TV SHOW:  All Japan.

– MATCH OF THE YEAR:  Dave would go with the War Games because it’s not from Japan and he’s had too many Japanese picks already.

– ROOKIE OF THE YEAR:  Lightning Kid, who looks like everything a worker shouldn’t look like, but still gets a big push.  He’ll go far.

– MANAGER OF THE YEAR:  With Jim Cornette absent, it’s either Sherri or Paul Bearer, and Dave votes for Bearer.

– BEST TV ANNOUNCER:  Since Dave can’t understand Japanese or Spanish, it’s either Vince or JR.

– BEST MAJOR WRESTLING CARD:  Toss-up between Wrestlewar ‘91 and the Noriyo Tateno retirement show from 3/17.

– BEST WRESTLING MANUEVER:  Masao Orihara’s moonsualt out of the ring.

– BEST COLOR COMMENTATOR:  Either Randy Savage or Paul E. Dangerously.

– BEST BOOKER:  If they weren’t so stubborn, Dave would say Vince & Patterson, but Baba’s pinfall finishes have brought realism to the product.

– BEST PROMOTER:  Baba.

– BEST GIMMICK:  Undertaker again, even though he already won last year.

– Time for Ric Flair speculation!  He’ll debut at Summerslam with the NWA belt and challenge Hogan to a title v. title match, but anything at this point is merely conjecture and hearsay.

– Regardless, the only way that Flair is going to maintain the lifestyle to which he’s accustomed is to sign with the WWF, so it’s probably inevitable.  He’s still under contract with WCW until 09/01, no matter what.  Jim Ross was very critical of Flair on his 900 line, talking about how Flair said he’d never work for Vince, and also pointing out that it’s silly to call himself the NWA World champion when the NWA barely even exists at this point and doesn’t promote wrestling.  Flair, however, seems to understand that doing the program with Hogan would mean the most money for everyone right now, especially considering how disappointing the Hogan-Slaughter program has been.

– Meanwhile, fans are chanting “We Want Flair” at all the WCW live events, and some fans have even taken to bringing banners reading just that.  In fact, fans at a Braves game chanted it loud enough that even the TV announcers had to acknowledge it.

– It looks like WCW has been canceled from WPIX in New York, stemming from a TBS decision not to pay a huge increase to the station, rumored to be moving from $10,000 per week to nearly $21,000 per week.  They’ll be moving the show to WCBS instead, starting on 9/14.

– Dave attended the latest WCW v. WWF “war” in the Bay Area, which is more of a one-sided drubbing at this point, although both sides had tons of no-shows and unhappy fans.

WWF Show at the Cow Palace:

1. IRS pinned Koko B. Ware in 11:07 when Koko crotched himself.  3/4*

2. British Bulldog beat Typhoon by countout in 11:34.  Typhoon subbed for Mr. Perfect.  The stalling was by far the best part of the match.  -*

3.  The Barbarian pinned Shane Douglas in 9:24 with the big boot.  Douglas was subbing for Greg Valentine.  No heat at all.  -*

4. Hulk Hogan beat Sgt. Slaughter in a “Desert Storm” match to retain the WWF title in 7:41.  It was announced that the winner would be via “unconditional surrender”, which led a newspaper reporter to wonder if that meant that the loser had to surrender his steroids?  Hogan is clearly off the juice at this point and feeling the stress of everything around him.  At one point, Dave would have felt sorry for him, but that ended once Hogan opened his mouth.  Hogan won with the camel clutch after hitting Sarge with a fireball “that came closer to making contact with Lex Luger over in Oakland”.  1/2*

5. Kerry Von Erich pinned Smash (subbing for Warlord) in 7:54 with a small package.  1/2*

6. Virgil (subbing for Roddy Piper) pinned Ted Dibiase in 11:58.  Brutus Beefcake returned to no reaction as Virgil’s second, and Ted Dibiase was the star of the show.  **1/2

7. The Legion of Doom & Big Bossman beat the Mountie & The Nasty Boys in 15:02 with the Doomsday Device on Knobs.  Turned into a solid match.  **1/2

WCW Show in Oakland:

1. Terrence Taylor pinned Mike Graham with the rollup and trunks in 10:11.  **1/4

2. PN News beat Johnny B. Badd by DQ when Teddy Long interfered at 8:40. Both guys tried hard but neither can lead the other.  **

3. Dustin Rhodes & Mike Graham beat Richard Morton & Terrence Taylor when Rhodes pinned Taylor.  **1/2

4. Steve Austin pinned Big Josh to retain the TV title in 15:22. Both worked hard.  **3/4

5. The Hardliners beat Tom Zenk & Black Bart (subbing for the Steiners) in 11:59 when a Dick pinned Bart.  *

6. WCW champion Lex Luger pinned Bobby Eaton to retain the title in 10:09 with the piledriver.  Fans chanted for Flair and steroids at Luger.  Very disappointing.  **

7. Yellow Dog & Sting & El Gigante & Ron Simmons beat Barry Windham & Diamond Studd & Nikita Koloff & One Man Gang in a match advertised as an elimination match that ended in one fall when Sting pinned Gang in 12:11.  ***1/4

– Back to the neverending steroid story, as JJ Dillon has been calling guys and telling them not to be carrying anything through airports just in case they get searched.  (The world was a lot different in 1991, when you typically had to be warned NOT to carry drugs on you.)  Wrestlers are also being told that they might want to be off steroids around 08/14, WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE.  You know, just in case there’s any testing, WINK WINK.

– Bruno Sammartino responded to Hulk Hogan throwing shade at him on Arsenio Hall, as Hulk basically called Bruno a hypocrite for being so anti-steroid but then “using Billy Graham to make money”.  Dave and everyone else consider Hogan’s bitching here absurd for a million reasons.

– TV Guide had a major story on the steroid scandal in its 2000th issue, after sending a reporter to the press conference last week.  The story included the first public admission that NBC dumped the WWF.  Inside Edition will be doing a big story on the subject in a couple of weeks, and the New York Post will be doing a story about what a joke that the press conference was.

– Dave would like to note that no matter how “serious” they claim to be regarding the testing procedures coming up, he’s been around enough bodybuilders to know what guys coming off the juice look like, and no one at the San Francisco house show was coming off the juice, except maybe Hogan.  In fact, every week it’s becoming more evident that the WWF is the boy who cried Wolf with this stuff.  (I wonder if Vince ever read that story?) 

(Sounds about right.) 

– For those wondering, despite what the company claims about the WBF and steroid testing, those inside the company have said that no steroid testing has ever been done or even talked about.  Also, there’s increasing controversy in the bodybuilding world because the WBF events are predetermined like wrestling (which is no big deal to wrestling fans but quite scandalous to bodybuilding fans) and the “prize money” is fake.

– Misawa & Kawada won the PWF tag titles from Gordy & Williams in a big surprise title change on 7/24, when Misawa pinned Gordy with a small package in 28:00.

– The Global tag team title tournament ended up with Steve Simpson & Chris Walker winning the belts in the finals over Scotty the Body & Rip Rogers.

– Dave continues to praise All Japan regular Billy Black, who appeared poised to make an impact with hot matches in Global with regular partner Joel Deaton, but he just never panned out and pretty much flamed out after 1992.

– By the way, in case you’re wondering what happened to longtime Global tag team champions the English Lords, they were in a car wreck in Germany and sadly were unable to return to wrestling.  Also, when the time comes to crown a Global champion, the current champion, Baron Von Steiner, will lose that title in a match to whoever is slated to get that belt.  (In case you don’t get it, this is all fictitious backstory in Pedicino’s mind to project the image of a history behind the new promotion.) 

– Chuck Austin, who was feared to be a paraplegic at one point after the Rockers match, is up to 90% use of his body.  Locals in his hometown built him his own $70,000 house because all of his savings went to medical bills.

– Verne Gagne is now talking about producing a weekly show on ESPN, featuring old AWA tapes.

– To WCW, where the writing is increasingly on the wall for Jim Herd.  Jack Petrick wants a plan for turning the company around by the end of the year, in WRITING, and he’s commissioned tons of market research trying to figure out what people want out of the company.  The WWF feeling is that market research is worthless, but that’s WCW for ya.  The feeling seems to be that they’ll now try to move the company back towards the anti-WWF, high-workrate direction again, which Dave notes is a well-timed move now that they’re fired the best worker in the promotion.

– Bill Watts has said publicly that he’d agree to run the company, but he would want a percentage of the bottom line.

– They’re just dropping the Yellow Dog angle completely and will bring back Brian Pillman as himself.

– The Junior heavyweight division that was off again, is now on again.

– The crowd for the next Meadowlands show looks to be around 2500 people, which would mean they’ll likely lose the building.

– They’re ordered a new WCW World title for Lex Luger, to replace the current one, which is an old Florida title with a metal plate on the front.

– PN News and Johnny B. Badd appeared on a BET talk show, discussing why it’s been so hard for blacks to succeed in wrestling.  This is of course hilarious because both News and Badd are white guys.

– Billy Jack Hayes demanded a raise from the $300/show to $500, and got fired immediately.

– The American Patriots team has been whittled down from four to two, and will be Chip the Firebreaker and Todd Champion.  Pez Whatley has already been dropped and Bill Kazmaier will be given a new role.  Dave thinks that they should do a gimmick contest to find an even dumber gimmick for poor Curtis Thompson.  Perhaps he can be a milkman or Avon Lady next?

– The Desperadoes are never making it to WCW, so they’ve pulled the videos.

– Halloween Havoc will feature a “Master of the Maze” match, where two guys wrestle in a plexiglass maze and try to find a way out.  “Three guesses where that idea originated from” Dave notes.  (How did we never get that one at Uncensored or something?) 

– Speaking of stupid Dusty ideas, the original plan for the 9/5 Clash was to be a “Georgia Clay” match, which would be some kind of a reverse battle royale with quicksand in the ring, headlined by a Tom Zenk v. Lex Luger match on top for the WCW title.  But now the whole card is up in the air because TBS vetoed pretty much every idea Dusty had for it, and instead it’ll end up being the Enforcers winning the tag title tournament in some form.

– The WWF taped TV on 7/29, featuring the first Hogan v. Undertaker match as the dark main event, ending how you’d expect in a **1/2 match.

– Big Bully Busick got a tryout and got over pretty well as a heel, managed by Herbie Wilmington.  (I think someone got that name wrong.)  Downtown Bruno of course had to change his name because there ain’t never gonna be another Bruno in the WWF.  Bruno got the gig because he’s friends with Sid Justice and Sid pretty much vouched for him and got him the job.  Original intention was to do a gimmick that would spoof Pee Wee Herman but there was too much legal heat over it.

– Vic Steamboat got a tryout as Jorge Bolt and didn’t get over.  Skinner also debuted and didn’t get over.

– Virgil beat Dibiase to win the Million Dollar Belt in a dark match, which pretty much gives away at least one result of a Summerslam match.

– And finally, Dave expects Sgt. Slaughter to turn babyface at Summerslam, because they’re marketing a new Slaughter shirt and they don’t tend to give heels merchandise.

  • PN News is white?! No wonder he was wack

  • Robert Eddleman

    “I’ve argued in front of every judge in the state, often as a lawyer.”

  • Matt

    Hogan losing people’s empathy after opening his mouth seems like something he should have learned from years ago.

  • Kanye Batista

    P.N. News and Johnny B Badd being a couple of white guys is surprising to me. I was always sure they were black although Johnny’s fabulous hair was a dead giveaway.

    • JosephM

      WCW sends two white guys (although isn’t PN News Samoan/Polynesan?) to BET to do an interview about African Americans in wrestling when they have Ron Simmons under contract and ready to get a main event push.

      Because WCW.

      • MaffewOfBotchamania

        maybe Sonny Onoo and the rest had a point

        • Oh, they absolutely had a point.

        • Starscreamlive

          Sonny Onoo had a point… at the end of his chopsticks!

    • Mero must’ve spent all his training time in the tanning beds. PN News, on the other hand, was clearly white.

      • Rainbow Sherbet

        PN News is so white he makes Scott Keith look like Gucci Mane.

      • Kanye Batista

        New Kinda looked like a redbone or maybe mixed. Mero … How on earth could a white guy have that dark of a complexion all those years?

    • Rainbow Sherbet

      Dusty Rhodes: “Black people love Little Richard, so they’ll love Johnny B. Badd!”

      Road Agent: “But what about PN News?”

      Dusty Rhodes: “Black people love the Fat Boys, so they’ll love PN News!”

      • Bettis

        Dusty would have booked himself on that show.

    • JLAJRC

      I totally thought Mero was black until he started appearing on talk shows after his WWE stint. I kept wondering why he was pale and found out later why.

  • Shlocko

    Alright. Someone please settle once and for all: are Rick and Vic Steamboat related or is it kayfabe? I’m leaning toward kayfabe, but I’ve heard both ways.

    • mlaffs

      Legit related – Vic is Ricky’s younger brother.

      • markn95

        Vic Blood?

        • flamingtoilet

          Better than Dick Blood.

          • The Badger King

            There is a long-time indy wrestler on the Prairies named Richard Blood the Third…. or, Dick Blood.

  • thejob111

    The WBF events were fixed? What on earth was the point of the WBF?

    Cue the Vince gif.

    • Rainbow Sherbet

      “TOP HAT AND CANE…TALK ABOUT A NIGHT ON THE TOWN!”

    • Striation.

  • PrideOfCanada

    “1. Terrence Taylor pinned Mike Graham with the rollup and trunks in 10:11. **1/4

    3. Dustin Rhodes & Mike Graham beat Richard Morton & Terrence Taylor when Rhodes pinned Taylor. **1/2”

    Mike Graham was probably going around afterwards talking about how he got ****3/4 from Meltzer in the Observer.

    And also how hiring Scott Steiner to team with Rick was all his idea.

  • PrideOfCanada

    “The WWF feeling is that market research is worthless, but that’s WCW for ya.”

    Now they do a shit-ton of market research and watch as the crowds boo the fuck out of Roman Reigns who performs well in focus groups.

    • Kenola

      Vince went from hating WCW to more or less becoming them.

      • taabr2

        Except with the part of making millions and millions every year and isn’t THAT the part that matters.

        • ADF

          Vince still runs a tighter financial ship than WCW ever did, but many of his creative choices over the last several years have been ripped straight from the WCW playbook.

      • Timothy Byrne

        “I have become what I beheld, and I am content that I have done right!”

  • Boomska316 .

    ” The WWF taped TV on 7/29, featuring the first Hogan v. Undertaker match as the dark main event, ending how you’d expect in a **1/2 match.” I think this was the match that ended up on the Hulkamania 6 tape. I actually liked it better then any of their PPV matches.

    • Robert Hawkins

      Hulkamania VI featuring the Undertaker’s hat almost stolen. I remember seeing the tape of it many years back and realizing I was there for that match. One row up from where the long distance camera is.

      • Boomska316 .

        I remember that kid knocking his hat off and getting a nice glare in return. The kid probably pooped his pants.

  • Manjiimortal

    “Also, there’s increasing controversy in the bodybuilding world because the WBF events are predetermined like wrestling (which is no big deal to wrestling fans but quite scandalous to bodybuilding fans) and the “prize money” is fake”

    And Vince is honestly surprised his outside of wrestling ventures don’t work? For as much as he dreams of being known as a great business man, he just can’t let go of wrestling carny practises, when those are the first thing he should throw away!

    And Misawa/Kawada winning the tag belts sets up the big title defence against Jumbo and Taue in September, which was another big step towards making Misawa The Man.

    • Timothy Byrne

      But does Vince follow the ‘carny code’?? Inquiring minds want to know!

  • Boomska316 .

    ” Chuck Austin, who was feared to be a paraplegic at one point after the Rockers match, is up to 90% use of his body. Locals in his hometown built him his own $70,000 house because all of his savings went to medical bills.” In hindsight I think it would’ve cost them less money in the long run to just settle right away. Instead it got dragged out another couple of years and he ended up winning a huge amount.

  • Mr. P

    Vince should never be a candidate for Best Announcer, ever!

    • y2j420

      Whenever there is a back body drop, I still say it like Vince: BAAAAAAACKKKKK BODY DROP!

      Really the only negative that sticks out to me with Vince is when he’d call Bret Hart’s inverted atomic drop a reverse piledriver…

      • Manjiimortal

        And even that’s minor, as very rarely wrestling announcers were that knowledgeable about more unique wrestling moves (JR for example would call every aerial manoeuvre that wasn’t a crossbody a moonsault), and those that were always sounded like nerds when calling them (see Joey Styles in ECW trying to name crazy lucha moves, or Tenay in WCW looking like an ass when he called the Dragon Screw Leg Whip and being mocked by Tony, Heenan and Dusty).

        Calling moves is just about the least important thing about announcing matches.

        • Mr. P

          Vince was a terrible storyteller and constant shill as well, while spitting out idiotic catchphrases all the time. He was basically just like Michael Cole is today.

          • Manjiimortal

            I’m not saying the opposite, but Vince gets drilled a lot on account of not knowing the name of many moves and I was pointing out that most announcers are like that too.

          • RG-Dallas

            WELCOME EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!

          • Starscreamlive

            Welcome everyone! We are just in time for National Prune Breakfast Month!

            Vince would open every episode of Superstars with some stupid comment like that. Can’t think of a better way to open a show.

          • Mitch Connor

            Notwithstanding…

          • y2j420

            1…2…HE GOT HIM!…no he didn’t…

          • ADF

            Which makes sense, considering Michael Cole is his mouthpiece.

      • RG-Dallas

        Monsoon called the Russian keg sweep a reverse pile drive once.

        • y2j420

          Get the fuck out of here…

      • Waddam N. Oover

        It’s tough for me to think of my favorite call from Vince. I can’t for the life of me come up with what it would be….

        • Starscreamlive

          What a maneuver!

        • y2j420

          Easy…when he was describing Puke (Droz) puking…

      • Timothy Byrne

        That’s your only negative from Vince’s announcing???

        • y2j420

          Yeah…I mean, he wasn’t offensively bad…he always sounded like he was losing his voice, but that was Vince’s way of getting excited…

          I’d consider him average…in between JR (best) and Mike Adamle (worst)…

          • Early 90’s Vince still fit the mold of what he presented, so his commentary over a bad match wasn’t obvious. As the 90’s progressed, you can see the quality of workers is far better than what he had, and he becomes more and more unfamiliar with what they’re doing, and we can just assume too stubborn to learn.

  • Robert Hawkins

    And I was there for that 7/29 taping. All the Superstars stuff plus the Summerslam Spectacular. Angered my dad so much (who had arthritis) that he didn’t allow me to attend a WWF card for 3 years, and only then it was one in a town so small I was able to convince him it wasn’t another TV taping. Hogan-Undertaker didn’t happen until past midnight, lasted 4 minutes and we didn’t get home until 1:30am.

  • Vince

    According to Wikipedia, PN News is apparently still alive. Good for him.

    • Still alive and working shows.

      • RG-Dallas

        What Indy would book him? I mean I saw a show poster that featured the Rock and Roll express, Ivan Koloff, and Masked Superstar. But no sign of PN Snooze.

    • Joe Wilson

      He’s touring the holiday camp circuit in the UK and introducing himself as ‘Grizz’ to the other workers.

    • Justin Henry

      He’s on FB. Friended him maybe a month ago.

  • Gregory Weagle

    — Halloween Havoc will feature a “Master of the Maze” match, where two
    guys wrestle in a plexiglass maze and try to find a way out. “Three
    guesses where that idea originated from” Dave notes. (How did we never get that one at Uncensored or something?) —

    I don’t know; but one of Crash Holly’s Hardcore title defense took place in a maze like enviornment; so there you go.

  • mike

    “Jack Petrick wants a plan for turning the company around by the end of the year, in WRITING, and he’s commissioned tons of market research trying to figure out what people want out of the company. The WWF feeling is that market research is worthless, but that’s WCW for ya.”

    I believe that would be the research Bischoff talked about on the MNW dvd where he got the data saying that wrestling fans liked confrontation that felt spontaneous, which informed a lot of the booking that made the nWo angle feel so fresh at the time.

    • taabr2

      Then he started to dismiss the results, when it went against the best interest for his buddies.

  • markn95

    Dave Freaking Meltzer jumping aboard the Undertaker train in 1991? Now I’ve seen everything. Even if he was just trying to break up the Japanese dominance of the half-year awards, I had no idea Undertaker was this highly regarded in smart circles at the time.

    I makes it all the more amazing that the WWF “wasted” Undertaker as a freak/sideshow attraction for the next 5 years or so. Maybe he got the blame for the disappointing Tuesday in Texas experiment. The arrival of Sid and Flair around this time made the top of the card pretty crowded but those guys (plus Hogan and Warrior) were all pretty much gone less than two years later.

    • taabr2

      I wouldn’t say that Undertaker was wasted, he was put in the Andre The Giant role and it is a good gig. ‘Taker didn’t need to be in the title picture.

  • Rainbow Sherbet

    Harvey Wippleman as Pee-Wee Herman?! What would his finisher have been, the Back Row Money Shot?

    • anotheraccount24get

      i can’t determine whether the Pee-wee Herman thing was created by or terminated by Pee-wee’s arrest in July 1991. Either way, that would probably be pretty up-to-date on pop culture on Vince’s part.

    • RG-Dallas

      I’m glad Harvey got to be a 1890’s manager and Doctor instead.

    • Griffin99

      I remember him wearing a light grey suit and red bow tie early on. Makes sense now.

  • Rainbow Sherbet

    “Master of the Maze” sounds like the kind of tv show that would air before all the good cartoons came on Saturday morning.

    • JLAJRC

      There was a gameshow called that in the mid 90s hosted by the guy from “Fun House” It was actually kind of fun to watch.

      • Rainbow Sherbet

        J.D. Roth!

  • Adam Moore

    Reverse battle royal with quicksand in the ring? Cue TNA joke here…

    • thatguyJMM

      Gotta wonder if TNA would have even happened if even one of Dusty’s ideas came to fruition

  • flamingtoilet

    Sure, Yoshihiro Asai may look good now, but he’d trip over his own feet if he ever made it to WrestleMania!

    • RG-Dallas

      Ultimo Dragon?

  • Justin Henry

    “a Dick pinned Bart.”

    “Pick up Bart! Pick up Bart!”

    “A dick pinned Bart? What the hell’s a dick pinned Bart?”

    • thatguyJMM

      And Rellik was probably quoted as saying “Trab pu kcip”

  • Starscreamlive

    The Slaughter apology and face turn was the weakest turn ever up to that point.

    • PeteF3

      I think that whole thing is really kind of underrated and forgotten as far as icky WWF angles go. Having a guy walk around Arlington National Cemetery just to facilitate a cheap face turn is just…ugh.

      • Vince

        I only remember him saying the pledge of allegiance (possibly in a school), and then kissing the flag and proclaiming, “I have my country back!”. I thought it was cheap, but I loved Slaughter from GI Joe, so I was glad he turned back.

    • Timothy Byrne

      Orndorff’s return to babyface status in mid-to-late 1987 was pretty stupid.

      • justicegris

        Orndorff really had zero interviewing ability, it seems. Particularly as a face.

  • thatguyJMM

    Baron Von Steiner also has a 141 2/3% chance of beating Samoa Joe

  • Michael Weyer

    Man, the whole “Yellow Dog” bit was so dumb even the “Loose Cannon’ DVD skips it completely.

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