Wrestling Observer Flashback–06.17.91

Previously on the Flashback… http://blogofdoom.com/index.php/2016/12/20/wrestling-observer-flashback-06-10-91/

Vince was probably feeling pretty good at this point.  Sid was signed and debuted to a big pop, WCW was self-destructing before his eyes, and the Hogan-Slaughter program was doing pretty good business.  Yup, things were pretty good and 1991 was shaping up to be a fine year for wrestling and the WWF in particular.

Oh, except for one, little, teensy tiny legal matter.  I don’t think it’ll have any direct affect on the promotion, because why would it?  Besides, he’s a DOCTOR.  He writes prescriptions and everything.  You may have heard of him.

Get used to it, because we’re going to be hearing a LOT about Dr. George Zahorian for the next year or so.

– In a story that would nearly take down the entire WWF, the trial of George Zahorian is set to begin in about two weeks.  Zahorian was a doctor who worked ringside at the old Allentown TV tapings and sometimes participated in angles.  Zahorian was arrested and charged with 17 counts of drug trafficking relating to steroids and other substances, but mostly steroids.  Each count relating to the steroids has a maximum sentence of three years and a $250,000 fine, plus another five years each for the non-steroid drug charges.

– The specific charges are for distributing illegal steroids to wrestlers between 1988 and 1990, and the trial begins on the 24th.  Currently scheduled to testify are Roddy Piper, Billy Graham, Brian Blair, Dan Spivey and Rick Martel.  There’s also suspicion that Hulk Hogan might be called to testify, but Titan is pulling strings to keep him out of the news.

– The prosecuting attorney insists that it’s not a witch hunt for wrestlers, but rather an attempt to convict Zahorian.  In fact, they don’t expect any major revelations about steroid use among wrestlers!  Dave, however, thinks that this whole issue is a giant powder keg waiting to explode, especially since the 80s kept producing bigger and bigger wrestlers as Vince pretty much only pushed guys who were on the juice.  The actual use and possession of steroids were not technically illegal until this year, but it’s now a code three federally controlled substance (pot is code four, coke is code two, for sake of comparison.)  Basically the guys testifying should be safe, since the time period they’re being called upon to testify about falls under the period where steroids were not SPECIFICALLY prohibited.

– Dave points out that most people know the deal with wrestling and steroids already, and the trial probably won’t have any significant or lasting impact on the state of the business.  The business is built on the big lie that the steroid physiques are somehow “healthier” than a thinner frame, and the bodybuilding industry perpetrates the same lie as the foundation of its business as well.  Dave brings up the case of Ben Johnson, who was caught using steroids at the 1988 Olympics and basically brought shame on the entire nation of Canada (HOO BOY did he ever!  People up here took that one HARD!) but wrestlers aren’t counted as “real athletes” anyway so the perception of being steroid abusers isn’t exactly going to lower their stature in the eyes of the public any further.  Dave doesn’t think this will cause any kind of significant scandal.  (And boy would he be wrong!) 

– Finally, Dave points out that wrestling was around for decades without any significant steroid usage, and really it was Vince McMahon in the 80s that brought that particular mindset to the forefront.  Should the drugs be washed out of the business, it’ll adapt and survive like it always has, but with smaller bodies.  And really, the only people arguing FOR the steroid lifestyle are the ones aiming for a short-term mindset, pretending that a problem doesn’t exist.

– Yeah, like those guys.

– Onto another topic completely, speculation is running rampant that Joe Pedicino will take over the ESPN timeslot from the USWA next month.  People are naturally skeptical based on all the wild promises and “secret funding” that Joe was throwing around at the same time in 1990, but he’s contacted numerous wrestlers about coming to work for him when the deal happens.  The first taping is supposedly 06/28 at the Sportatorium, with five hours of programming per week being produced.  The problem with this theory is that Jarrett signed a new one-year contract with ESPN in February, although the channel is very unhappy with the content of the shows to date and could theoretically ax the deal at any time.

– Jim Herd and the other mucky-mucks at TBS have decided to downplay the TV role of Dusty Rhodes, removing him from the color commentator position and dropping his “Bull Drop Inn”.  Apparently, and this is probably a viewpoint that will cause some controversy, people think that Dusty MIGHT be pushing himself too much.

– Certainly Dusty’s results as a booker have been less than stellar thus far, but whether or not this reduction in airtime means anything for his position as bookerman remains to be seen.

– And now, in the story bigger than the steroid trials…


– The least successful PPV in pro wrestling history (until TNA!) is now history and disappointingly, poll results are…not that bad, actually.  (Herb can’t even do a terrible PPV properly.)  The distribution was supposed to be 2.3 million homes, but to rub salt in the wound a whole bunch of cable systems cancelled their broadcast of the show at the last minute, which puts the number of potential homes at well below 2 million.

– The show drew 550 people to the Manatee Civic Center in Florida, although only 70 tickets were actually sold and the rest were giveaways.

– Dave won’t be seeing the show until next week, but he’s compiled star ratings from trusted minions:

1. Boris Zhukov pinned Paul Samson in a dark match.  -**

2. The Black Hearts (Tom Nash & David Heath) beat Jim Cooper & Fire Cat (Brady Boone) in 7:45.  Cooper & Boone were a substitute for SD Jones & Tyree Pride, which would have been far worse.  **

3.  Johnny Ace & Terry Gordy went to a double countout in a supposed No-DQ street fight in 6:08, with Ace subbing for Don Muraco at the last minute after he no-showed.  Ace just wore regular gear because he didn’t know it was a street fight.  The match wasn’t that good, but the brawl was.  ***

4. Mass Confusion (The Killer Bees) beat the Power Twins in 12:23 with double sunset flips.  3/4*

5. Rockin’ Robin won the prestigious new UWF Women’s title over Candi Divine in 6:05.  -3/4*

6. Paul Orndorff pinned Col. DeBeers in 4:15 in a strap match with a piledriver.  *1/4

7. Bob Backlund pinned Ivan Koloff in 2:23.  1/4*

8. Steve Ray & Sonny Beach beat Cactus Jack & Bob Orton (managed by John Tolos, who amazingly showed up!) in 4:00 via heel miscommunication. Orton turned on Jack afterwards and they brawled to the back.  *3/4

9. Steve Williams pinned Bam Bam Bigelow in 7:11 to win the first UWF championship with the Oklahoma Stampede.  Very stiff, Japanese style match with tons of blood.  Doc and Abrams challenged the champions from “any other federation” after the match, which Dave notes is an easy challenge to throw out when you know no one is going to answer and Steve Williams is your champion.  ***1/4

The first half of the show went long and they had to rush the last three matches greatly.  The show only ran two hours, which caused LOTS of complaints.

– Story time!  Years back, as detailed RIGHT HERE in the Observer recaps from the time, a group of smart fans from Nebraska got into a small amount of trouble with the WWF for sitting front row with NWA shirts during a TV taping, which caused the people running the show to freak out and hold up the taping while they sent out agents to make them wear WWF shirts over top. From there this became a game among Observer subscribers, who learned that you can get free WWF merchandise by sitting camera-side and wearing shirts showing the competition.  So anyway, this past week, the guys in question went to a house show (not a TV taping) and wore Ric Flair shirts.  They were yelling at Jim Duggan and Col Mustafa during their terrible match and basically heckling them for not being a real champion like Flair, at which point Dave Hebner got the police and had them all arrested and banned from the building.  The official reason from the WWF is that they were being “abusive” to the wrestlers and using foul language.  Dave points out that businesses all reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, and if someone wants you out of the building that badly, maybe it’s time to find your entertainment elsewhere since obviously the WWF product is not to your liking.

– Konan is leaving Mexico for the WWF as of 6/16, and newspapers in Mexico had publicity photos of him standing next to Undertaker & Warlord to build up his big debut.

– To Japan, where the UWFi shocked everyone by selling out Korakuen Hall with 2400 people standing room only with a main event of Takada v. JT Southern.  Everyone has been predicting doom and gloom for this group from the start.

– Tokyo Sports is reporting that Olympic wrestlers Alexis Karelin and David Gobedshivili (the guy who was a running gag years ago when Dave couldn’t figure out how to spell his name) will be starting as pro wrestlers with New Japan on 8/8.  Dave is decidedly skeptical about this.  In fact, Karelin is supposed to be competing for Russia in the 92 Olympics.

– Brian Adams is back in Portland, working as Demolition Crush, so this seems to be the end of Demolition as a team in the WWF.  They were told not to acknowledge him as Brian Adams, but the TV announcer did so anyway.

– Jeff Jarrett has been tapped as a part of the “Don’t Mess with Texas” campaign against littering, which is weird because he’s not a Texan and not really a celebrity of any stature.

– Monday night Memphis shows dipped to 340 fans without Jerry Lawler, so he finally returned to save the day.

– The WWF has a very unlikely working partnership with IWCCW, with guys like Tito Santana and the Bushwackers getting shipped out there because they’re carrying too many people but don’t want to fire a bunch of people have them jump to WCW.  So between this territory and SWS in Japan, the WWF is hopeful that they keep guys working enough not to quit and go to WCW.

– In a very minor note that actually became kind of a thing later, wrestler Derrick Dukes threw a boxing match to football player Mark Gastineau, taking a bump in 12 seconds off a punch that “showed more light than a Hulk Hogan punch”.  Dukes admitted taking a dive on ESPN afterwards, and now there’s CONTROVERSY.

– To WCW, where Steve Austin actually won the TV title from Bobby Eaton twice.  They taped it originally on 6/3 in Birmingham, but the finish was screwed up, so they taped a new version on 6/4 in Montgomery with Lady Blossom making sure to scratch Eaton’s eyes BEHIND the ref’s back this time.  As a trivia note, Veronica only lasted two shows as Austin’s valet.

– Talk that Jason Hervey will wrestle Paul E. Dangerously on the Bash tour.

– Bruno Sammartino is telling people that he was willing to come out of retirement to face Larry Zbyszko at the Meadowlands, but he wanted 100% creative control over the program and WCW won’t budge.

– WCW co-promoted a show in Roswell NM with the local Boy Scouts, and EVERYONE no-showed, leaving them with a 6-match show and a main event of Gigante v. One Man Gang.  Fans were “screaming for refunds” at the end of the very short show.

– The advance for the WCW show in St. Louis (you know that battleground between the promotions) is sitting at less than 500 tickets at the moment.

– Dusty Rhodes went on the Jim Ross radio show and made all kinds of Hogan-like claims, such as Muhammad Ali learning his interview style from watching him, although Dave notes that could be explained by Ali having access to a time machine where he saw 7 years into the future when Dusty started doing those interviews.

– To the WWF, where Steve Keirn’s “Gator Man” gimmick is considered to be too close to the other two “lizard related” gimmicks that are already there, so he’ll be coming in as something else.  (Yeah, because THAT was the big problem with the idea.) 

– USA Today basically ran a press release from the WBF under the guise of a “story”, where it was claimed that they would be tested for steroids and suspended for a first offense.  Dave thinks that’s hilarious, but notes that the Weider people are getting pretty panicked because no one even thought that they’d get to the point of putting on a show and yet the debut contest is this weekend.

– Dory Funk is the latest person to decline involvement with the “Legends of Wrestling” show in St. Louis at the stadium.

– And finally, promotional materials for Summerslam promise a “match made in heaven and a match made in hell”, whatever that means.

  • The Gambler

    – And finally, promotional materials for Summerslam promise a “match
    made in heaven and a match made in hell”, whatever that means.


    • James M. Fabiano


      • Michael Weyer


        • JasonMK


  • Napoleon Blownapart

    The more I’ve been reading these recaps the more I’m beginning to realize that Dusty wasn’t really the saint he’s been painted as later in life. Probably the most hated and selfish guy in the wrestling business in the 80s who damn near killed WCW thanks to his shitty booking. Basically the precursor to HHH’s reign of terror.

    • Night

      Pretty much.

    • Dust had good ideas and bad ideas. As for as his penchant for using his power to protect his spot, welcome to pro wrestling. As Monsoon said, if you’re in wrestling for any reason other than to make money, you’re a fool.

      • Night

        Sure. But that doesn’t mean that we, as fans, have to just shrug and accept it.

    • tannerfamilyfun92

      It’s actually kind of shocking how much WWE rehabilitated his image… especially since he was part of the competition for so long

    • tonybell73

      Dusty’s work later in his life with WWE and NXT did a lot to improve his legacy. The NXT people all LOVED him. It seems like once they took away the book and let him focus on BTS stuff and character work, almost like Pat Patterson, his reputation changed.

    • Manjiimortal

      He wasn’t really different from most wrestling bookers that were also wrestler, and/or had their family members involved in the business. Dusty was bad indeed, but look at Verne Gagne, Fritz Von Erich, Al Tomko, etc, etc.

    • RG-Dallas

      Or Metzler had a ax to grind. Metzler isn’t Paul the apostle. His writings are not inspired. Metzler is fun to read, but he isn’t gospel.

      But Dusty had a ego. I still loved the guy.

    • DanteLaboy86

      Dont believe Dave Meltzer’s anti-Dusty agenda. He was, and still is, a Flair bootlicker and shameless suck up.

      Who was the guy that held the world belt throughout all of the eighties without ever doing a meaningful job? Flair beat Rhodes countless times (as he did everyone else), and never relinquished his spot. Rhodes’ oft criticized ‘dusty finish’ was a product of the fact that Flair wouldnt put anyone over, and Rhodes couldnt have a heel squashing babyfaces every night.

      Outside of the ring, Rhodes lived a respectable and honest life. Can we say the same for Flair? Flair’s personal life has been an embarrassing spectacle for decades. After Rhodes retired, he admitted to many mistakes during his run as booker. How about Flair? In books and interviews, he took cheap shots at anyone who dared criticize him during his career. Even poor Mick Foley.

      The whole ‘Dusty was an out of control egomaniac, who buried everyone and killed the NWA’ was a PR campaign from #1 Flair groupie, Dave Meltzer. Flair was light years ahead of Rhodes in the egomaniac category.

      • Mr. P

        I certainly noticed that whenever Garvin or Sting or Warrior or whomever don’t draw it is always their fault. But when Flair doesn’t draw it is always the booker’s fault.

        • DanteLaboy86


      • Timothy Byrne

        Leaving aside Flair’s dumpster-fire personal life, his wrestling style suited the old-school model of the travelling NWA champion.

        Flair would come into the territory, wrestle a 30-60 minute match with the local hero, make them generally look like a million bucks, play the heel, and escape with the title by the slick of his teeth. It was a model that worked in terms of making money for the territories, their local heroes, Flair and the NWA.

        When you confine it just to Mid-Atlantic (which became equated with the NWA) that model can’t really work long term with the title always reverting to Flair. When Rhodes, Garvin and Sting win the title for five minutes and Flair gets it back, it punctured the long-term viability of the system.

  • cultstatus

    I bet the match made in heaven is a play on words and not an actual wrestling match. Maybe a wedding?

    • I bet this is why Vince wanted to go over God so damn badly in 2006. 15 years earlier, he’d been already spurned.

  • “This became a game among Observer subscribers, who learned
    that you can get free WWF merchandise by sitting camera-side and wearing
    shirts showing the competition.” .. .I prefer to sit behind Shane McMahon and get paid to leave.

    • markn95

      Lol–the SMURF star rating system. Scott needs to bring that back.

  • Sexy Miz

    A bunch of stuff that happened in the Pre-Miz era, and is thus irrelevant.

    • PhilStubington

      Before the slap that was heard aound the world.

  • I’ll Be Your Zero

    Alexis Karelin was the guy who was upset by Rulon Gardner in 2000, right? In fact, I believe that was the only loss he ever suffered in international competition.

    • Night

      That’s correct. But I think it might have been in Atlanta in 1996.

      I could be wrong, though.

      • Night

        Quick check and yes, I’m wrong. It was 2000.


      Yep, his only loss and it was bullshit.

      • Bullshit how?

        (I honestly do not remember)

    • RudoTheRedNosedWakening

      And that would be Aleksandr Karelin, not sure why they went with “Alexis.”

    • Bettis

      The Olympic Channel’s website has a short video about it in their Strangest Moments section. If you’re an Olympics buff like I am, the site is fantastic.

  • Theberzerker #HOHOHUSS

    I guess the “other lizard themed” gimmicks they mean were The Dragon and Jake?

    • cultstatus



    “– Dusty Rhodes went on the Jim Ross radio show and made all kinds of Hogan-like claims, such as Muhammad Ali learning his interview style from watching him, although Dave notes that could be explained by Ali having access to a time machine where he saw 7 years into the future when Dusty started doing those interviews.”

    Well, Ali lifted from Gorgeous George… but Dusty lifted his entire thing from Thunderbolt Patterson.

    • PeteF3

      He really didn’t. I don’t get the similarities between those two at all other than vaguely “talking black.”

  • Devin Harris

    maybe it’s time to find your entertainment elsewhere since obviously the WWF product is not to your liking.

    hmmmmm interesting take…………

  • Miko363

    “The show only ran two hours, which caused LOTS of complaints.”

    Oh, how times have changed…

    • Jordan

      Looking at the card, I’d be complaining if I had to watch that show for even one hour.

  • Nellykins

    Come on Scott, admit it. You timed these recaps just so you could give us the Sid, Flair AND Zahorian stories for Christmas. I feel like I just got my own Red Ryder BB gun

    • Just hope for not too many PN News stories, or else you might just want to shoot your eye out…

  • http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/27790-wwf-magazine-memories/

    This thread has screenshots of the rebuttal that the WWF ran in their magazine to some of the steroid allegations. Mostly just burying the shit out of Superstar Billy Graham. I remember it being really weird to read as a 10 year old kid, and it’s kind of incredible (at the same time as being a very WWF thing to do) that they’d run a piece like that in their kid oriented magazine. And Russo hadn’t even started writing for them yet! (Though he would just a few months later)

    • Boomska316 .

      I found it weird, too. I suppose it was their only official publication at the time so that’s where it went.

    • They never did the followup articles they promised, did they?

      • PeteF3


      • No. I imagine someone was smart enough to realise it wasn’t a good look. Probably not Vince.

    • Rainbow Sherbet

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who found that article bizarre. I’d also throw in that two part (?) article where Money, Inc are secretly recorded committing bribery and/or fraud as another thing that made me go “WTF is going on?”

      • Oh yeah! I don’t remember being too freaked out by that though, they were bad people so it followed that they would do bad things.

      • Hayden

        Man, I remember this. They printed a bunch of grainy black-and-white “surveillance” photos of DiBiase and IRS in the articles, did they not? I was completely confused as a kid and didn’t really know what it was all about.

    • Grampa Mongolian Stomper X

      In the same timeframe, he lost his hair and he was rumored in the print media to have died.

      …by the WWF’s own Gorilla Monsoon, you sneaky petes!

      • markn95

        What a fountain of misinformation he is!

    • Hbkslush

      Things got really ugly for the WWF in ’92 (as we’ll see when we get there in these flashbacks), and they sometimes reacted in some ugly and/or bizarre ways. They did not handle it well.

    • Oh I remember that one with the walls of text and the Billy Graham picture. That was some heavy, over-my-head stuff for a 10 year old.

  • tamalie

    Blair and Brunzell were Masked Confusion as opposed to Mass Confusion. They were doing the Killer Bees mask/switching of partners gimmick.

    Mark Gastineau was managed by a very unscrupulous boxing promoter, even by boxing standards, named Rick “Elvis” Parker. Parker had ties to Rob Russen, who was in the AWA office for a time in the 1988 range and then ran a fairly successful Florida indy promotion. Russen supplied Dukes and some other wrestlers who put over Parker’s charges in rigged bouts. Parker was later killed by a boxer he’d swindled.

  • “Dave doesn’t think this will cause any kind of significant scandal.”

    On a very personal level – my Dad wouldn’t let me order PPVs as a kid because of this.

  • James M. Fabiano

    Can’t wait to see what his opinions about the GWF will be once it gets started. It seemed solid (at first of course)….and well less flashy than what was seen in the Big Two at the time.

  • taabr2

    Am I the only one who pictures those little yellow dudes going around the world reviewing wrestling shows whenever Scott brings up Meltzer’s minions.

    • nwa88

      Civilized people call them Asians.

  • zbinks

    Was the “Dr.” Harvey Wippleman character originally intended to be a response to the Zahorian scandal or is this just an odd coincidence? He debuted with Big Bully Busick about a month or so after this news story broke. Then he managed the Warlord, then he managed Sid.

    • RG-Dallas

      He wasn’t a doctor at first and personally I thought Harvey was originally dressing like Jack “Doc” Kearns (Jack Dempsey’s manager) to give The Bully that 1890’s feel they were going for.

      • Rainbow Sherbet

        That’s a great observation RG

    • Rainbow Sherbet

      As a side note, I LOVED it when Harvey would check the pulse of the poor jobber that got his ass kicked by Sid after the match ended.

    • Alan

      I always thought Harvey was a brilliant piece as someone who made the heel look that much bigger.

    • ADF

      I’ve always wondered this, too, but I’ve never heard it confirmed (or denied).

  • taabr2

    “Doc, I need to get back to 1985 to watch some Dusty Rhodes promos!!! It’s heavy because he is fat.”

    “Well, I went to the future Marty. 2015 and he couldn’t be any more fatter than this guy Kevin Owens.”

  • I would love to have a conversation with any of the 70 people who actually bought a ticket to UWF Beach Brawl. What an elite club of which to be a part!

  • MaffewOfBotchamania

    here’s Dukes’ bump

    • DanteLaboy86

      Literally a textbook bump. Just like his wrestling trainers taught him.

    • wnyxmcneal

      Jack Cafferty!

      • Pete Labozetta

        The only reason I watched the clip was to see if it was THE Jack Cafferty. I fucking loved the Cafferty File on Wolf Blitzer’s show. Looked forward to it all the time.

    • RG-Dallas

      It looks like a bump to me.

    • Mitch Connor

      I remember seeing this on SportsCenter the next day, and was astonished that nobody remarked on the obvious fakeness of it. Of course, as a wrestling fan in AWA country, I had the advantage of being aware that Dukes was a wrestler.

  • RG-Dallas

    I just watched Sid vs. Big Bully Busick in the WWF. Man, Sid had it. He was never going to work a match, but he really did have it.

    • To speak to just how much he had it, I actually REMEMBER that match. I had never seen WCW, so it was my first time seeing Sid. I was like…WOW!!!

      • markn95

        Sid is definitely on Mount Rushmore when it comes to having the “look.” My other three nominees would be Goldberg, Hawk, and Lesnar.

        • Hbkslush

          I’d actually put Ahmed Johnson over Lesnar. Before he got fat, Johnson had a good body, and all those red pads on his dark skin were truly arresting, from a visual standpoint. Of course, that would be the only thing that would make one put Johnson above Lesnar. At least Ahmed will always have that.

          • RG-Dallas

            Ahmed looked like a He-Man action figure.

        • RG-Dallas

          Had Hawk had Ron Garvin’s run with the title, I would have agreed.

  • Bobby Eaton jobbed out his title twice in his home state? Way to ensure two audiences went home unhappy. Because WCW.

  • Matthew Maynard Adams

    Actually, weed is schedule 1, cocaine is schedule 2, according to the U.S. government.

    • Clark O’Brien

      Pretty sure coke will be 1 on the governments schedule when Trumps officially in.

    • markn95

      Cocaine possession/trafficking is usually punished a lot more severely than the same offenses for weed but MJ is indeed a “Schedule 1” substance. But the Schedules aren’t necessarily structured to rate how “bad” a drug is. Weed is categorized in Schedule 1 mainly because it doesn’t have any currently acceptable medical use (take that for what it’s worth).

      • Matthew Maynard Adams

        Yep. Coke is schedule 2 because liquid cocaine is used an anesthetic for eye and throat surgeries.

  • Diddlycember 25

    “– Jeff Jarrett has been tapped as a part of the “Don’t Mess with Texas” campaign against littering, which is weird because he’s not a Texan and not really a celebrity of any stature.”

    PLEASE tell me this became a thing. I’m assuming no, since a Google produces only this Flashback as a result

  • Stephen

    Canada came to terms with Ben Johnson (who wound up living a couple doors down from me in Newmarket). In fact, I’d wager that’s why the WWF’s popularity didn’t dip here nearly as much as in the US; we’d kind of accepted steroids as pervasive by the point the scandal broke. Well, that and Bret’s push, of course.

    (Also, Ben doesn’t look so bad in retrospect when you know that everyone else in the race tested positive at some point in their careers… or had a series of positive tests covered up like Carl Lewis.)

    • ziggaman730

      how bout Donovan Bailey 8 years later??

    • Selleck Reynolds

      My #1 freakshow sports attendance story is seeing Ben Johnson race a workhorse, a racing horse and a stock car at a harness racing track in Charlottetown, PEI in 1999. The lengths were staggered to represent what they should cover in 10 seconds. It was a fundraiser, I think for Children’s Wish,

  • Boomska316 .

    “Dave doesn’t think this will cause any kind of significant scandal.” i can understand Dave’s logic here, but I also think that the mainstream is always looking for a reason to bash wrestling. About the only time it ever gets any mainstream coverage is when something bad happens.

    • PatJames387

      “About the only time it ever gets any mainstream coverage is when something bad happens.”

      Why is this? Serious question..I can never quite put my finger on this one…

      • Boomska316 .

        Honestly, I have no idea. It seems to be mainly an American thing, too. In other parts of the world they take it more seriously.

        • ADF

          I think part of it is because way back in the early-to-mid 20th century, when everybody still thought wrestling was real, the media did cover it as an actual sport. When they eventually realized that it wasn’t, it left a permanent distate for wrestling in their mouths. At least, that’s how I interpret it.

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