Thunder – December 2, 1999

Date: December 2, 1999
Location: Landon Arena,
Topeka, Kansas
Attendance: 2,467
Commentators: Larry
Zbyszko, Mike Tenay
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
a week off due to Thanksgiving, we’re back for one of the final live
Thunders as the tapings would soon move to Tuesday nights. In other
words, this might be the last “good” show in the series’ run.
We’re less than three weeks away from Starrcade and the World Title
scene is very slowly rounding into form. Unfortunately everything
else is rounding into form and it’s not a pretty sight. Let’s get to

Hardcore Title:
Norman Smiley vs. The Wall
the champion, is in karate attire and Berlyn comes out for
commentary. There are weapons in the ring already but Norman relies
on the power of the 80s with a Crane Kick pose, earning him a
clothesline. Wall blasts Norman with some weapons shots as Berlyn is
suddenly fine with speaking English and demanding an apology from the
big guy.
Norman keeps screaming
as the beating continues but eventually kicks the trashcan into
Wall’s face. The Big Wiggle is teased but Wall hot shots him
instead. The chokeslam is loaded up but Berlyn hits Wall with the
belt, knocking him out with his hand still around Norman’s throat.
Norman covers while still being choked to retain the title.
I love Norman. Even when he’s just getting beaten up he’s fun to
watch as he’s clearly trying, unlike so many of the other wrestlers
on this show. Wall is fine for a big man, but do you really want him
jobbing in one of his first singles matches? Just have him maul some
people, like maybe those worthless cruiserweights. Actually we can’t
because they’re getting beaten up later to further the parody of Jim
Ross. I guess we just have to make the new monster lose in a comedy
isn’t happy that he’s fighting Sid tonight.
Silver King wants his
check back from Dr. Death, as apparently Williams hasn’t cashed it
for some reason. Football insults are hurled and death will come
soon for Silver King.
Hayashi doesn’t like Maestro. Time for a transition!
Kaz Hayashi vs.
Symphony here, meaning my interest quickly fades. They hit the mat
for a faster sequence than you would expect with Maestro getting two
off a rollup. Tenay is of course talking about Jeff Jarrett, because
Russo likes getting announcers involved. Kaz comes back with a
dropkick but gets sent face first into the buckle. Choking and
stomping ensue to show that Maestro is a heel. It’s actually not
clear otherwise, even with David Flair kidnapping him on Monday.
hit the chinlock on Kaz and here’s David with the crowbar. Kaz flips
out of a German suplex and hits a dropkick but the referee gets
bumped, bringing David inside. His crowbar hits Kaz by mistake,
sending Maestro running for the hills. The unconscious Kaz wins by
countout and is shocked when he wakes up.
Another day, another match with a stupid finish designed to get a bad
angle over instead of the wrestling. Maestro is a guy whose looks
deceive you as he had a decent match despite looking out of shape.
Kaz is solid in the ring as well and can give you a good performance
when he isn’t cannon fodder for a David Flair feud.
Disco and Lash Leroux
arrive but have to run from the Mamalukes.
Lex Luger loses his
bag, takes Jimmy Hart’s by mistake, then gets his own bag back. He
tries to leave but has flat tires because…..I have no idea
Chavo Guerrero vs.
entrance: “It’s me, it’s me, it’s that B-U-Double Z!” Chavo
tries to sell him some tyedye and a broken lava lamp, which Buzzkill
tries to turn on despite a lack of electricity. The fans are ALL
OVER this and Chavo only makes it worse by giving Buzzkill a Walkman
to make him go down on the mat to the music, but it’s only good for
two. Chavo gives up on the sale but has a shirt for the referee,
allowing Buzzkill to hit him with the briefcase for the pin.
Buzzkill is mad at
himself for cheating, but borrows money from the referee to buy the
tyedye and lamp from Chavo.
I’m pausing now and
trying to compose myself. Normally I would write up some rant about
how Russo doesn’t get wrestling and what a waste of talent this is,
but I can’t bring myself to care. That was one of the stupidest
segments I’ve ever seen I wrestling and it was painful to watch.
There’s nothing wrong with a comedy segment here and there, or even
more than one a show. However, when your entire promotion is one
comedy/stupid segment after another, you lose the benefit of the
doubt. You lose your audience too but that’s another story.
Benoit is ready for his match with Liger, who he respects very much.
For once, there’s nothing else going on in a promo. The idea of
Benoit vs. Liger is one of the only things that can bring me back
after what I’ve sat through already.
Meng gets into his
dressing room but Lash and Disco show up and swap his name plate for
Evan Karagias is in the
back with Madusa and implies that he’s rather, shall we say, antsy.
Madusa promises him “everything” after Starrcade.
Long recap of Nitro.
That doesn’t help things, though at least it’s shorter.
Luger is still worried,
but he knows he’s the best and has nothing to worry about. But
doggone it, do people like him?
is playing with a Luger action figure as Gene tells him that he has a
powerbomb match vs. Nash at Starrcade. Gene doesn’t have the match
if that’s not clear. Nash wouldn’t take it after seeing Gene and
Hogan team up against Steele and Fuji back in 84. Sid breaks the
figure to show what’s going to happen to Luger tonight.
Luger calls a cab.
Can’t he just walk to a bar or something and wait until the show is
The Mamalukes beat up
some production guy and lock him in a freezer so he can give Disco
and Lash a message.
Steve Williams vs.
Villano IV/Villano V/Silver King
should be short. Larry leaves the booth because Oklahoma disgusts
him so much. For once, I can’t say I disagree. The trio gets
destroyed to start until Silver King nails a dropkick. A triple
headbutt is shrugged off though and King gets press slammed. I’m
missing a good chunk of the match, though as a consolation I do get a
lot of shots of Oklahoma talking. Vampiro comes out to go after
Oklahoma, which allows Silver King to sneak down and take his check.
Williams pins a Villano off the Stampede in a quick match.
is trying to get into his cab but the Mamalukes stop him to ask for
Disco and Lash. In one of the smartest things Luger has ever said,
he recommends the dressing room with their name on it. As this is
going on, Silver King dives into the cab and leaves. Luger is
completely thwarted, because that was the only cab (or form of
transportation it seems) in all of Topeka.
After a break, the
Mamalukes are outside the dressing room door. Thankfully they’re
nice enough to not go in or do anything else until after the next
Jushin Thunder Liger
vs. Chris Benoit
let it go long. Please let it go long. Please let it go long.
Larry is back on commentary and annoyed at all the guest announcers
screwing up. We can’t start just yet though as Juventud Guerrera
comes out for commentary with his arm in a sling and flanked by
Psychosis and La Parka (rocking the red skeleton attire). Juvy sits
in on commentary and he’s going to be the focus of the match isn’t
Liger rolls out of an
early suplex attempt and they hit the mat for a technical sequence
into a backslide attempt from Benoit but Liger powers into a sunset
flip. A stalemate gets some polite applause from the crowd as Juvy
says IT DOESN’T MATTER what the wrestlers are doing. Benoit is taken
down in a test of strength but Liger can’t break his bridge. The
Liger Kick connects as Juvy takes credit for building the
Cruiserweight division. He doesn’t mention his current reign as the
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Title but why should he do that?
Tenay announces Benoit
vs. Nash on Nitro and a US Title shot in a ladder match at Starrcade.
That’s quite the schedule. Liger hooks his feet under Benoit’s arms
and takes him to the floor in a crash before putting on the Surfboard
back inside. The brainbuster gets two and Liger wins a chop off.
Benoit breaks up a tornado DDT attempt and it’s a double clothesline
to put both guys down. There’s the snap suplex and a belly to back
for two on Liger and Benoit nails him with a clothesline to the back
of the head. Liger is able to crotch him down and nail a superplex,
but the other cruiserweights come in for the double DQ.
I want to complain about the ending destroying what could have been a
great match, but this is such a rare treat these days that I can’t
bring myself to do it. Instead, I’ll go on about what a shame it is
that they bring in Jushin Thunder Liger and use him as a way to get
over Juvy’s (albeit funny) Rock imitation, which could have been done
with almost anyone on the roster. At least we got about seven
minutes of Benoit vs. Liger though, which is better than anything
else we were going to get.
Benoit and Liger clean
Buff promises to beat
Meng tonight.
of Meng, the Mamalukes find him in the dressing room and get beaten
up as you would expect.
disguises his voice and calls the WCW offices to say he has a family
emergency and needs to leave. Terry Taylor pops in to say….I’m
assuming nice try as Buff’s music was drowning him out. I don’t know
if that kind of thing is a Russo joke or if the WCW production guys
all just stopped caring at once, because it’s been a thing for months
now and it’s really annoying.
Bagwell vs. Meng
it would have to be this match after that last segment wouldn’t it?
Meng throws him around like a Tongan monster throws around a pretty
boy to start. Buff’s right hands and clotheslines have no effect but
some dropkicks stagger Meng. Apparently Buff has an easily built ego
as Buff tries ten right hands in the corner, only to get dropped on
the top rope before he gets to nine. Meng comes back with strikes in
the corner as Larry thinks there’s something up with the Outsiders
and Russo. Gee Larry, YOU REALLY THINK SO???
lot of choking ensues before Buff gets bent over Meng’s knee in a
backbreaker. Buff comes back with his swinging neckbreaker and a
cross body for two as we have Mamalukes. Say it with me: the ref
gets bumped, allowing the mobsters to beat up both guys for reasons
not exactly clear. Meng fights them off and Buff goes up, only to
miss Meng and hit the Blockbuster on Vito. The Tongan Death Grip
gives Meng the win.
Can we get some tougher referees? Or some wrestlers that aren’t
quite as careless and don’t hit a referee on half the matches every
show? I like that they’re keeping Meng strong, even if it doesn’t
seem likely to lead anywhere. You can always find a way to use
someone like him, but in Russo’s case he’ll probably wind up as a bus
driver with an unhealthy fear of parrots.
Meng beats up the
mobsters for fun.
is in the back with Mona and Jarrett and can’t stop looking at her
chest. Mona: “Do you see something you like Gene?” Jeff yells
at her for taking half his interview time and calls her Miss Slappy.
This Monday, Goldberg and Dustin Rhodes are on his hit list.
Mamalukes drink Surge to make themselves feel better, though Johnny
could go for a cheese sandwich.
Jeff Jarrett/Mona
vs. Evan Karagias/Madusa
there a reason why Jarrett and Mona got together and I just missed
it? Larry: “If he’s so chosen, why is he in a match he doesn’t
want to be in?” Tenay wants Jeff fined and suspended for his
actions on Monday. Evan and Mona get things started as Jarrett walks
around ringside. He takes her down with ease to start but the camera
goes to see Jarrett and Tenay yelling at each other. I wonder if
that’s what the TNA meetings were like.
armdrags Madusa down but gets caught in a double backdrop. Now Jeff
sits on the steps (which is nothing like when Mankind did the same to
the Rock, appropriately enough against the Hollys) while Madusa
cranks on an armbar. Back up and Mona slams her off the middle rope
and crotches Evan, followed by a top rope hurricanrana. Madusa gets
back with a German suplex though, allowing Evan to hit a corkscrew
plancha for the pin.
So to recap we have a woman who is using sex to get a title shot at
Starrcade, another woman who wrestles hard but gets beaten up at the
end, but the whole thing is about Jeff Jarrett arguing with an
announcer. They really thought this was the answer to women like
dropkicks Jarrett post match and eats a guitar to the head. Serves
her right for trying in her match.
recap of Bret’s WCW career. No real context or reason for this but
it’s there.
The Revolution talks
about having their own country. Saturn: “And our own continent!
Asya!” Get out while you can boys.
Luger is on the phone
with Russo and is told that the winner of the match with Sid gets a
World Title match this Monday.
is with Lash and Disco and recaps the Mafia angle. Wouldn’t it have
been better to do this EARLIER? They agree that they need each other
to survive and Disco asks Lash not to do the splits tonight because
dancing is his gimmick. I can’t even roll my eyes at these terms
being dropped anymore.
Inferno/Lash Leroux vs. Perry Saturn/Dean Malenko
makes fun of Disco and Lash’s accents before the match. Cue the
Mamalukes to go after Disco and Lash but the Revolution mocks them as
well, triggering another brawl. Disco and Lash are smart enough to
stand outside and watch as Asya hits the Italians low, allowing the
Revolution to clean house. Security gets them out of here so Disco
and Lash jump Saturn from behind and get two off a Russian legsweep.
announces Evan vs. Mona vs. Madusa on Monday with the Cruiserweight
Title shot on the line. Logic would say Mona vs. Madusa in a singles
match, but why do that when it can be men vs. women? Lash beats
Saturn up even more and does the split into a punch spot, prompting
Disco to angrily tag himself in. This time it’s Disco knocking
Saturn around but stopping to dance, allowing Dean to come in and
kick Disco’s head off (yet the hair still doesn’t move). Disco
fights back with a sunset flip but Saturn kicks him again to break it
Last Dance is broken up and Disco gets sat on top, allowing Saturn to
bulldog him out to the floor in a nice spot. Lash and Dean get tags
and the Cajun cleans house on Malenko but Whiplash is broken up by
Saturn. A superkick drops Lash to the floor where he almost gets
into it with Asya, allowing Shane to get in a cast shot. The
Cloverleaf on the unconscious Lash gets the win as Saturn holds
Disco and Lash are prime examples of guys that were doing nothing but
were given a unique story by Russo. Unfortunately, Russo’s
intelligence ends as soon as the matches start as they were cannon
fodder for the Revolution in their first match as a team. It doesn’t
help that they’ve gotten into a buddy comedy instead of a tag team,
but Russo thinks he’s writing B movies instead of a wrestling show
Package vs. Sid Vicious
gets Hart on Monday for the title. Bret comes out to do commentary
and doesn’t seem interested in talking about facing Sid. Luger does
a quick easy way/hard way promo but gets caught holding pepper spray.
Sid stomps him down with ease but gets hit low, allowing Luger to go
into his offensive arsenal. Cue Liz as we get a double clothesline
to put both guys down.
some clothesline as neither can get up after LESS THAN A MINUTE of
action. Liz gets the pepper spray and goes for Luger but he takes
the bottle away and sprays Sid, who powerbombs the referee, because
pepper spray takes away your abilitiy to feel a shirt. Luger grabs a
rollup (with Sid’s feet in the ropes) for the pin from a second
referee and the title shot.
Post match Sid can
suddenly see and powerbombs Luger to end the show.
Let’s recap quickly: interference – belt shot, interference –
crowbar, briefcase shot, interference (didn’t change ending),
interference – double DQ, interference – sets up pin, double
teaming, cast shot, pepper spray. The closest thing we had to a
clean finish in nine matches was double teaming in a glorified
handicap match. All night long we couldn’t a rollup for a pin or
just someone hitting their finisher to win without someone cheating
or interfering? I know there are a lot of common criticisms against
Russo, but with shows like these, they’re not exactly unfounded.
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