Mahal/Triple H Results

Now I don't mind that Mahal jobbed (probably cause they'll never go back to India again after the shows didn't sell well) but if anything, isn't it indicative of the fact that they have officially given up on Mahal? I feel like had the 2 originally announced house shows did very well along with him as champ, then he would of not only went in as champion but went over both nights. The Triple h add was definitely used as a way to move more tickets since Mahal's name alone wasnt moving like they wished. I read the building was about 70% full.

We'll find out for sure tomorrow night, but it sure feels like the Jinder experience is nearing the end. 

More Strike Force


To follow up on the previous e-mailer's question about Strike Force, I was curious if you had any insight on when the decision was actually made to split up the team.  If Martel had stuck around past June 1988, would they have done the breakup at say, Summerslam, of that year?  Once they jobbed to Demolition, it didn't seem like there was much more for them to do, especially considering that the Rockers and Powers of Pain entered the company as face teams just after WM IV (plus, the Harts turned face that summer).  Then again, you had the Rougeau Bros. turn heel and the Bulldogs leave the company, so there may have been a need for an upper-midcard face team for awhile.  (And if you replace the Young Stallions with Strike Force at the 88 Survivor Series, the 20-man match becomes that much more awesome).

When Martel came back in early 1989, was there ever any consideration to giving Strike Force another run or was it pretty much decided from the beginning of his comeback to turn him heel?  I would think the latter, but I checked the Observer flashbacks for that time period, and there didn't seem to be much foreshadowing for the turn before WM V.
For me, I was pretty sure that Martel was only returning to screw Santana over, and I was a 15 year old teenager at the time.  It seemed like a pretty obvious setup for a feud, even at the time without the benefit of hindsight.  I think Vince would have indeed split them up much sooner if Martel hadn't been hurt. 

Smackdown – July 17, 2003

Date: July 17, 2003
Location: Nationwide Arena, Columbus, Ohio
Commentators: Michael Cole, Tazz

We’re almost to Vengeance and the good things in the build towards the show have been quite good. At the same time though, the bad thing is very bad. Vince vs. Stephanie is running wild and for some reason we’re supposed to want to see Vince vs. Zach Gowen at the pay per view. Let’s get to it.

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Talking Taker Podcast Plug



Longtime fan and reader of yours here, all the way back from the Rantsylvania days. Was wondering if you could put a plug up for my friend and mine’s new podcast called Talking Taker where we are going through every PPV match of The Undertaker’s career one by one. We’re up to Survivor Series 1995 as of this week: 
Believe me, I know the last thing the world needs is another wrestling podcast. That’s why we are trying to do something a little different than just analyzing Raw and SD or going through random PPVs (not that there’s anything wrong with that). The idea is to trace the history of the WWE’s greatest creation to see the evolution of one character while also charting the changes the in the wrestling business across the many different eras the Undertaker transcended over 27 years. Plus as fans who grew up watching Taker we talk about what it was like being a young fan in the 90s and 2000s. 
We don’t have any backstage scoops or insight to give out, we’re just two fans who love to talk about wrestling recording the conversations and hoping someone else might enjoy them too. We’re on Twitter and Facebook (@TalkingTaker) as well as iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, YouTube and Podomatic. We’d love any feedback you or the blog could offer!  


Place to be Nation Presents: Jeff Learns Wrestling #10: Survivor Series 1987

You Jeff Machado and JT Rozzero are best friends but Jeff has never been a wrestling fan… until now. With decades of wrestling history to catch up on, JT is leading Jeff’s completely clean slate on an educational journey through the wonderful story of professional wrestling.

In episode ten, Jeff is angry and the boys talk about Jeff’s big work accident, buying tickets for his first live event, the concept of Survivor Series, Vince McMahon’s gamesmanship, Jeff’s hatred of Jim Duggan, Harley Race and Honky Tonk Man, Jeff’s attraction to the ladies in the women’s match, the fantastic Jumping Bomb Angels, Jeff’s thoughts on Strike Force as champions, Jeff’s dog’s reaction to the Islanders, the show’s treatment of the champions and match structure, Jeff’s kinship with Ken Patera, Andre the Giant’s big moment and much, much more!

So, join us on Jeff’s journey to learn all about pro wrestling, get sidetracked with us on many tangents and have a bunch of laughs along the way!

Even MORE rip offs

Scotty – All of the rip offs discussion has me thinking of this new Enzo/Jax angle and how it's just a half assed attempt to recreate other wacky love relationships like Beth/Santino and Eddie/Chyna.  I get it – it's an easy story line that can be recycled every 5 years or so, but in this case it grinds my gears for two reasons:

1) Jax has been built to be a monster.  Sure she's pretty awful in the ring, but making her a bubbly, giggly girl smitten in love does nothing for her as an in-ring performer.

2) The WWE doesn't really have a clue when it comes to anti-bullying, do they?  The joke here is that Jax is big and fat, and it's hysterical that tiny Enzo would be in love with such a beast.  How does Cole, Booker and Graves snickering at this like school kids help promote anti-bullying??


​I think the joke, as such, is more that a woman is being sexually aggressive to Enzo, who thinks of himself as a player but then backs down when his bluff is called.  Which is like, fine, whatever.  Nia wasn't going anywhere thanks to the Paige group anyway, so it gives her something to do now.  ​


Glow ,Did you watch this on Netflix ? It’s good. It’s a shame they didn’t get the original wrestling show too it’d be great to watch it after.

Yup, the show was great and had just the right amount of full frontal Allison Brie.  Which is to say, any amount.  I will say that I've watched enough of the real GLOW for one lifetime though. It doesn't hold up at all.

Turn site

Hi Mate
I was wondering if there is a site anywhere which details where a ppv or wrestling programme tells that there is
ie A Tag Team Split Manager wrestler spilt Heel Turn Face Turn I database my DVDS and want to put a sidenote on my database etc
Never heard of such a thing.  Although tracking Kane and Big Show's turns alone would be a lifetime endeavor.

What the World Was Watching: WWF Superstars – July 15, 1995

Vince McMahon and Dok Hendrix are the commentary team for today’s show and they are still in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

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Hogan to the WWF in 1994?

It's been said that Bischoff and WCW had to load up Hogan's contract offer in 1994 with huge money and incentives to keep Vince from swooping in and matching. Let's say one of the parties gets cold feet at the last minute and either Vince matches or WCW rescinds/Hogan declines, how does 1994 and beyond play out for the two promotions? Does Hogan go right back in to the world title picture with Bret and Diesel? Does he eventually turn heel? Or would he have just end up in WCW eventually anyway since he would have been so miscast in the New Generation era?  

I feel like the relationship would have went South again during the trial and Hogan would have distanced himself and left.  I don't see it playing out well for either side, really.