BoD Daily Update: November 20, 2017

WWE.com RAW Preview

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2017-11-20

 

Tulsa World Interview with Jim Ross

http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/17towns/towns-in-jim-ross-journeyed-from-farm-in-westville-to/article_eddf4e5f-4c96-5345-8ea9-7a660ae338d0.html

 

NJPW Free Match of the Week

You can watch Masahiro Chono & The Outsiders vs. Keiji Muto & The Steiners Brothers from 3/5/97 by clicking on the video below.

Super Shane


Hey,
So after watching Survivor Series, one thought popped in my head. They had Shane no-sell the RAW attack from SD last week, fend off Owens/Zayn by himself, last a minute in an ankle lock, and nearly survive the whole thing himself. Contrast that with Daniel Bryan selling a Kane chokeslam via stretcher and not appearing on TV in 3 weeks.
I mean they might as well make Shane champ at this point with how dominant he was booked last night. The only way to salvage this is by using it in a Shane/Bryan feud that they’re teasing, but the odds of that happening are slim and none.
Thoughts?
IC

I've actually heard it suggested that Shane was being PUNISHED based on how he was booked last night, in the sense that HHH looked even stronger.  Which goes to show that a McMahon getting punished beats the best day any of us will ever have. 


Fixing the Royal Rumble


After reading the email on Survivor Series and your opinion on the event itself, It only reinforced how much the event has dropped from its original concept. The Royal Rumble ,which has taken the spot from Survivor Series as the most unique and interesting concept, seems to be going the same way. I mean we obviously won't ever see a Royal Rumble event without a Royal Rumble match, like we have with Survivor Series but the fun is gone. There is no legitimate match anymore. Go back to 91 or 92. Hell 2001-2008. There was a match going on. Nowadays it is all entrances and laying around. Everyone stops what they are doing at each 10 second countdown to either lie around or stare in amazement at the next participant. There haven't even been any real surprises the last 2 years. For 2017 the "surprises" were Ellsworth, Mark Henry, Enzo, Kalisto and Gallagher. Hardly anyone to be amazed or kayfabe shocked to see if I am already in the ring. Those weren't surprises just announced competitors. Is the layout due to lack of Patterson? Is this a Dunn tv thing? Vince? Can the Rumble be fixed ? Can there be storylines? I know we don't have storylines like we used to but 90 Rumble had Warrior/Hogan, Piper/Bad News, Demos/CC, Savage/Dusty and DiBiase/Roberts built throughout. 2004 had Orton/Foley, Goldberg/Lesnar, Show/Cena, Christian/Jericho, and Kane/Taker built. Sorry 4 the lengthy rant just want the Rumble fixed before it goes the way of Survivor Series and I value your opinion. 
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​The Rumble itself has really been a huge letdown the past few years, and it's mystifying because it's such an easy thing to not screw up. I thought the AJ Styles​ surprise a couple of years ago was huge, and he would be a good person to have in there again to direct traffic, but the problem is that the match has become their storytelling crutch at Wrestlemania time. It doesn't matter if Randy Orton is hot at the time, he's due for a title run at Wrestlemania, so he wins the match.  Obviously Reigns wins the Rumble again this year because of course he does.  And yes, a lot of it was Patterson.  

Gargano


As we all can agree, 205 live needs a baby face where people can get behind. They have the heel in Enzo but they need the face to get behind. They need to get Gargano out of nxt to be that face. He can sell and get folks behind him better than most. And
when Ciampa is ready, they can bring him over too and have a money feud made for both of them. Thoughts? 

​God, no.  I'm sure that's where he'll end up, but Gargano doesn't need to be left to die on 205 Live.  They're already supposed to be moving Hideo Itami into the black hole division soon as it is, but they really don't need to be wasting any more talent with actual potential on that show. There's no "money" feuds there and Gargano deserves better than working once every week.​

NXT WarGames an all time great?


Do you think that in terms of top to bottom quality that WarGames deserves some recognition as one of the best shows WWE has ever put on?


Five matches, two of them good, three of them great. Two new champs. Hot crowd throughout. Hype packages to catch you up on the feuds, but virtually no fluff beyond that, with the whole thing being wrapped up in a tidy 2.5 hours. The best announcing team they have at the moment.

Seriously, am I crazy or was this the most enjoyable thing they've put together in years? 

Ben

You're not crazy, I enjoyed the hell out of it, especially the shockingly great Dream match and the upset in the title match.  

Takeover


​Hey Scott,
I loved the show, too, but I have to admit that I was really taken out of the main event at times with the clumsy directing and heavy-handed camera positioning of the guys in the match by the​ referees. I know it's developmental, but it's the main event of one of NXT's four biggest shows of the year (and featuring several legit veterans) — do you think the refs should really have to blatantly call spots throughout the match? If nothing else, the refs need to disguise it better. It was especially clumsy in the War Games match. I almost hate to bring it up because of how awesome the show was overall, but Vince gets so much flak from overproducing the announcers via headset and I think HHH has a tendency to overproduce the matches, as they are happening, through the referees. I really feel that it actually took a little bit away from the main event. I'm fine with the refs directing traffic in the matches — that's part of their job — but it's way too obvious and way too distracting in a lot of NXT matches. (And I'm not even talking about the positioning after Wolfe cut busted open on the suplex. I understand the reasoning and necessity for that. I was bothered by the prominent directions being given by the referees before that even happened.)

I didn't personally notice, but I can see how that would bug. 

Sunday Thread

  • Survivor Series is tonight, headlined by Brock Lesnar vs. AJ Styles and two Raw vs. Smackdown 5-on-5 matches
  • Drew McIntyre is thought to have suffered a torn bicep during his NXT title match last night, according to Triple H
  • Insane Championship Wrestling’s Fear & Loathing show takes place in the SSE Hydro arena in Glasgow today
  • For some Sunday reading, check out Scott’s Rant and Thomas Hall’s review of Takeover: Wargames and Maffew’s retrospective of ECW on Sci-Fi 2006-2007

Now talk, heathens!

ECW On Sci-Fi #81 12/25/2007 (Retrospective)

ECW On Sci-Fi #81 12/25/2007

This is a retrospective episode with highlights of Lashley’s feud with The McMahons, New Breed vs. Originals and Morrison vs. Punk. It ends with with Tazz kicking Joey Styles into a Christmas Tree so this GIF saved you an hour.

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