Sunday Night Reset: November 17, 2019

Remember, folks, no matter how bad you think WWE TV is: on this day 41 years ago, we had the Star Wars Holiday Special.  NOTHING WWE does can be that bad.

No, Vince, wait, that’s not a challenge!

Congratulations to O’Shay Edwards, who won the PTPW Heavyweight Title last night in Washington, DC.  In addition, Mack Buckler retained the CRAB Heavyweight Title.  (This has been your Blatant Homerism Indie Roundup.)

Coming soon to this blog: a look at AJW Wrestling Queendom and the 1989 Royal Rumble.

Tonight’s NFL game is Chicago traveling to LA to face the Rams.  We will have to wait another 5 hours to find out Seth Rollins’ opinion on football.

Enjoy the night.

The SmarK Rant for WWF Survivor Series 1988–11.24.88

The SmarK Rant for WWF Survivor Series 88 – 11.24.88

(Originally written 11.14.19)

My original version of the show came from the clipped Coliseum Video version, and the rant kind of sucked, so here’s a fresh take on the seasonally appropriate show that I haven’t watched in 20 years.

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Survivor Series/Takeover

Bryan Alvarez went off on a great rant on Observer radio this morning about why the buildup for next weekend's WWE shows sucks so bad this year, and I wanted to echo his sentiments.
Myself and many other hardcore, longtime fans are basically the only ones left watching this product, and it's SO FUCKING COMPLICATED to follow who is facing who and why.  You've got Takeover with 2 different Wargames matches and a series of matches and angles building that up and determining who's on which team there.  Plus, running concurrently, you've got many of the same people in that match participating in a series of interbrand tag team matches for the next night, with another series of angles and matches determining who's on which team THERE.  Some people are on both, some are on neither, some are in unrelated three-way interbrand matches with the secondary champions.  But there's also a couple of non-interbrand World title matches on the show with their OWN separate buildup.  NXT is invading both shows, but RAW and Smackdown aren't invading each other and the whole thing has a vibe of NXT v. Main Roster, but we're still supposed to buy into the "brand supremacy" of RAW v. Smackdown as well as the NXT brand fighting for whatever.  It's a mess.  When you need a literal scorecard to figure out who is fighting who in what watches and why, your booking SUCKS.

SS 88

Reading your review…with all the injuries and dead weight, why not take the tag teams and add them to the other matches instead? 

Imagine having twin towers, brain busters and Dibiase vs megapowers, rockers and Hercules.  Warrior, beefcake, hart foundation, blue blazer vs honky, bass, Valentine, Davis, bad news.  Jake, Duggan, powers of pain, Tito vs Andre, Rude, perfect and demolition.

The beauty of the multi man matches is that you can have an intricate and long match

Also, I think one issue with today is that you obviously see the same match a million times.  I personally would do these multi man matches a lot more . It eats up time and you can even test out new feuds. 

You'll notice, for example, that the 89 show is drastically different than this one, because this one didn't have the Hogan-Andre build behind it and basically flopped in comparison.  So they did in fact eliminate the tag team Survivor match the very next year and tweaked some of the stuff.  
And I'm long been a proponent of doing more tag team matches, because tag team wrestling is awesome.  Plus you never know who's going to have crazy chemistry together, like Cesaro and Sheamus. 

ECW on Syfy 09/29/2009 #173

King Regal starts the show by informing us Tiffany has been involved in a car accident and he will be taking her place as ECW GM. YES YES YES THANK YOU USOS & WHITE CLAW. He immediately changes the main event of Christian vs. Zack Ryder to Christian vs. Zack Ryder & The Regal Roundtable in a four-on-one handicap match because he’s a genius.

And if that wasn’t enough excitement for you all, we start with The Abraham Washington Show!

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The Cheap and Lazy Sunday Thread

Are you ready for some FOOTBALL?  Yes, I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that the CFL Eastern and Western finals are today, and I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that Edmonton, from the Western division, is in the Eastern final.  It’s a Canadian football thing, just go with it.

I’m just watching the crap out of Disney Plus, baby.  Mandalorian is so great, like a funny Western.  I actually watched the original Steamboat Willie short for the first time ever.  Although I do have the Disney tin collections of Mickey Mouse cartoons from years ago that are apparently worth some serious money now, but I’ve never really sat down and watched them.  I have a lot of DVDs and not a lot of free time.

Oney Lorcan has apparently asked for his release, joining the parade of geeks on Twitter trying to get out.

I was in a retro mood this week so I finally redid Survivor Series 88 after 20 years, with Royal Rumble 89 probably coming up tomorrow.

Have a great CFL playoff day.

Smackdown – June 16, 2005

Smackdown
Date: June 16, 2005
Location: Giant Center, Hershey, Pennsylvania
Attendance: 2,500
Commentators: Tazz, Michael Cole

It’s both a fallout show and one of the last shows before the next pay per view as we are stuck between One Night Stand and Vengeance. Normally Vengeance would not mean anything, but the Draft has shaken things up to the point where some people on this show might be on Vengeance anyway. That makes for an interesting time, as does the lack of a World Champion. Let’s get to it.

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Boulder dash


Hi Scott

Important question, watching some nitro in the network, whatever happened to Horace Hogan?

Every Hogan hanger on got some gig with the Hulkster after WCW folded except his own nephew. What gives?

He wasn’t a complete f-up in the ring and you’d think the name alone would spark some interest in him but according to his wiki page he pretty much jacked it in after a short stint in wwe developmental in 02, I’d think he’d dine off the association for years

Cheers

I don’t know or care about the specifics of his career and decision to get out, but not everyone is cut out for the WWE system and I suspect Horace was one of them.  

SD ratings and Baron Corbin


So SD hit a new low of 2.33 on FOX down 1.5 million since they started and the 18-35/18-49 demos are scary bad. In a related story, Baron Corbin is beaming heavily pushed and on TV again. I clocked it between his opening promo/“comedy” routine and presence at ringside during the tag match, he was on screen the first 30 min of SD.

Last year he was publicly scapegoated for all the problems. The follow up was PPV wins over Strowman, a main event 6-man vs The Shield, retiring Angle at WM, a LOOONG main event title feud with Rollins and now he’s the KOTR with another goober stable with Roode and Ziggler.

They’ve tried. They book him strong and he’s a hateable heel, but ratings are ratings and people turn off when’s he’s featured. What will it take for Vince to realize Corbin just isn’t the guy.

18-49 year old males see BC and leap off the television. That’s indisputable.

And yet they’ll keep putting him on TV in prominent spots.  That’s Vince for ya.  

Worst sell-job of an injury?


What do you think was the worst sell job of an injury by a wrestler?  I don’t think anything will ever top Austin dropping HHH in his limo from a forklift that reached the height of a small skyscraper at Survivor Series 2000, yet HHH returned to Raw as good as new 2 weeks later.  
Mr Wrestling after the plane crash with Ric Flair.  He was back the next week!  Didn’t even sell the extensive injuries he suffered. 

(Dammit, this is what happens when I post these from my phone…)

I FEEL LIKE GOD!!!!!




Where do you put Mr. Backlund's post Survivor Series 94 promo on the pantheon on all-time great promos? Personally, I find it a masterpiece that is criminally underrated, probably due to the fact that it was all rendered obsolete just a couple days later.

Hindsight being 20/20, I wonder if Vince wishes he'd have just stuck with Backlund as champ until at least Wrestlemania.

No way, Backlund had a shelf life in that role and it was clearly about a week after he won the belt.  

UK Wrestling Scene

Idk how familiar you are with the UK promotions but IPW just announced they would cease live events starting 2020 I believe, marking the end of an era for one of the UKs biggest promotions. This follows 3 other promotions that closed down recently. This all started with the rise of NXT UK and them signing all the bigger UK stars not named Will Ospreay, Zack Sabre Jr. Or Marry Scurll. So my question is did Triple officially destroy the UK Wrestling Scene or is just a coincidence and just the UK scene naturally dying out after a hot period?

I don't know enough about it to comment specifically, but certainly it's right out of Vince's playbook to eliminate the competition in just the manner described.  

Rikishi & Too Cool

Mr Keith……….a couple of quick Rikishi & Too Cool questions………

1.   Rewatching 2000 programing on the network was a nice reminder of just how over they were for the first half of 2000.   What got them so over?   The dancing?   Did they have a big “moment” of sorts that got them as over as they were?

2.   The crowds were going nuts for them.   Did the WWE utilize them properly at that time or do you think there was more they could have done with them all?

3.   The Rikishi heel turn in late 2000 – terrible idea correct?

1.  It was the dancing, yeah.  They didn't really have a big "moment" but rather it just built organically.  Rikishi himself had a title match with HHH that turned him into a big star though.
2.  They were used about as well as they were going to be.  Too Cool got a tag title reign out of it and Rikishi was never going to be a top guy.
3.  Yes, although it was more damaging to walk it back immediately afterwards and have HHH be the mastermind all along.  Made Kish look like a doofus and killed whatever they were building him up to be.  

Smackdown – November 15, 2019

Smackdown
Date: November 15, 2019
Location: Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Commentators: Corey Graves, Michael Cole

We’re actually having a normal night this week as opposed to all of the insanity that it has been in recent weeks. I’m hoping we can get somewhere new with the NXT invasion as last week’s show barely saw anything take place on that front. They still need to hammer in some details of the card and that can be done tonight. Let’s get to it.

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Takeover/Survivor Series

Hey Scott,

For the NXT people who are wrestling at Takeover: War Games and then Survivor Series the next night, how is that going to work exactly?

Will this hamper the show making them extra safe in the Wargames matches so as not to ruin their participation the next night?

Or do they just put in a half ass effort as part of a multi person match with 14 other people in it at Survivor Series?

I’m thinking they’re going to have some emergency backups on hand ready to go.

Either way, this has got to be tough on the NXT roster.

Don't worry, they'll all get jobbed out in less than a minute anyway. 

Punk AEW?


If his contract is with Fox and not WWE do you think technically he could show up on AEW TV or do you think FOX put it in his contract that he cant?

Do people really think that FOX is run by a bunch of idiot rubes?  Of course it's in his contract. 

What the World Was Watching: WCW Main Event – November 5, 1995

With no pay-per-view afterward, Main Event is back as a studio show with Tony Schiavone and Bobby Heenan.

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