The Punch-Drunk Saturday Night Thread

Punch-drunk is spot-on; I’m posting this lying in bed using my iPad because I’m too fatigued to get up right now. Not sick per se, just weak and tired, something I go through a few times a year for whatever reason I’ve never quite figured out. Perfect time to watch some college football.

I am *never*, however, too tired to join the Nintendo Fun Club, Mac.

What If…..

Hi Scott,

I've been working my way through the 96 and 97 Raws and PPVs.  A couple of quick questions:

1. If Bret and Shawn could have found a way to coexist and at least manage to somewhat respect each other, could things have turned out differently during this period?  Would it have turned out better for Bret, or was his relationship with the WWE always going to end bitterly?

2. It seems like the hidden MVPs during this era are Mankind and Vader.  It seemed they always worked their asses off and gave their all in every match they starred in.  Foley especially with his matches against Shawn Michaels and Undertaker.  I've always thought Foley got over through sheer force of will being one of the most unlikely WWE Superstars ever.  Agree or am I off base?

1.  I think if Shawn wasn’t around, Bret would still be around today.  But together, one was always going to lose the battle and it was Bret.  
2.  Foley, absolutely.  Vader was a major disappointment on all levels though.  He made a huge mistake ever leaving WCW.  

ECW On Sci Fi – April 24, 2021

ECW on Sci Fi
Date: April 24, 2007
Location: Earl’s Court, London, England
Attendance: 11,000
Commentators: Joey Styles, Tazz

ECW goes British for one night as we have the go home show for Backlash, which will have a pretty big title match. Other than that we have a pretty big match between the ECW Originals and the New Breed, despite CM Punk’s issues with his new team. That feud has gotten a bit better in recent weeks and maybe that can continue on the international version. Let’s get to it.

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A Concerned AEW Fan

Hello, Scott. I am a huge fan of AEW, but I have noticed something really jarring about AEW. Over the course of their events I have developed a significant concern for AEW’s front row fans. I do not believe it is safe to be sitting front row at AEW events, especially for kids. I have witnessed many “incidents” occur. Some of those “incidents” are… 

– Eddie Kingston dismantling a table and chucking pieces into the crowd. That could have impale a kids head when they weren’t looking.
– The Young Bucks throw thumbtacks to their opponents with the crowd right there. Thumbtacks could have pierced the eyes of a child sitting front row blinding them.
– Andrade ramming into the loosey goose barricades that have, which hit a kid. If that kid was bending down tying his shoes, that barricade could have forcefully bash into the kids head potentially causing brain damage.
– CM Punk stage diving into crowds… Some fans are big and Punk isn’t checking to see if there aren’t any infants behind those big fans.
– Etc.

This list goes on and on.  I just worry that one of these days something really bad may happen and I would hate to see that. I am just curious of your take and the takes of others on BoD regarding this. Thank you for your time.

Man I thought you were going somewhere wacky with that one but yeah actually there’s legit concerns in there.  The thumb tack stuff was bothering me as well.  That being said, a real wrestling fan would relish the opportunity to be bashed in the face by the Young Bucks and would likely get their neck brace autographed by them as well.  

Mike Reviews Shows Considered To Be Stinkers – NWA Bunkhouse Stampede (24th January 1988)

Good Day One And All!

Back with another Stinker Review this week, where I look at a show that has a reputation for being rubbish and decide whether it deserves its rap sheet or not.

This time out it’s another reader request, with Bunkhouse Stampede fighting its way out of the Stinker Hat courtesy of WChilders 49. I have watched this show before but it was quite a while ago, and I only really remember one of the matches being any good.

This is one of them there concept shows, with the idea being that guys have qualified for the Main Event by winning Battle Royals on House Show events, leading to them all going at it in a big Battle Royal bout to close the show. The extra gimmick though is that the Battle Royal itself is going to be held inside a cage, meaning you have to chuck your opponents out of the cage until you are the sole survivor.

This show is mostly remembered for being the catalyst for the first ever Royal Rumble event, as Vince McMahon threw that on TV in order to mess with the NWA and the concept got so over that it remains to this day. Would the Bunkhouse Stampede Cage Match™ enjoy the same enduring popularity? I guess you’ll have to read on to find out…

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So that Dynamite demo butt kicking you predicted this week didn't go so well huh? It's been very quiet on the Metzler front, no victory laps on the blog. Look, they put on a great show, Omega vs BD match was awesome, although not the greatest TV match ever seen which the AEW Stans are trying to claim it was. And good for them, even if clearly they didn't get the demo results they hoped for. But now that we know the ratings are they a disappointment, which Uncle Dave said it would be if they didn't beat the Raw demo? 

Also since it's been such a big topic the past week, I just don't understand why when AEW and WWE gives us huge matches on free TV it's LOL WWE and OMG AEW for hotshotting? Like isn't the whole point of ratings to pop them? Money in the bank briefcase is literally a tool from them to pop a rating at any moment with a championship match. Why would they use it anywhere else but on TV, they don't care about PPV buys since they have the network. If anything AEW has the most to lose since PPV revenue is so big for them.

And much as AEW Stans want to say they hotshotted Roman onto Raw promotional ads for this past Monday proved it was the plan for over month with half the roster gone on UK tour. I am surprised they actually made a story about it rather than just having him show up. AEW has been living off hotshotting their whole run, from Mox vs Omega, Blood and Guts, and multiple other examples. And that's fine because again TV money is what is keeping both companies alive. But at least for AEW at some point they are going to need to pop a rating without relying on a PPV match or debut. CM punk bump is gone, I can't see BD drawing bigger than the Omega match, maybe a Bray debut gets them another strong week but long term what gets their viewership even or above Raw? Obviously it's not the Omega championship run and clearly they didn't have faith in Hangman. Cole is great but he aint gonna do it, ditto for Darby and MJF. What's gonna get AEW over the hump, or are you less confident that happens now?


Worst WWE decision of 2021

Which of these WWE decisions of 2021 was the worst, so far?

Releasing Aleister Black, Ruby Riott, Bray Wyatt, Andrade…

Turning Becky Lynch heel. 

Decimating NXT.

Turning Bronson/Rex Steiner into Bron Breakker.

Turning NXT's unbeaten champ into a jobber in his WWE debut. 
Decimating NXT at least gave them a two week ratings bump.  Turning Becky heel and giving up all the merch money is just mind numbingly stupid though.  

Danielson – Omega: The Next Chapter

Following the 30 minute draw, how do you book the Danielson-Omega feud going forward, Scott?

For me, I think Omega ducks and dodges a rematch with Danielson, while Danielson chases him and has to go through other members of the Elite or wrestlers who think he jumped the line. Finally, he gets a 60 minute title match…that also goes the distance. This leads to a final, no-time-limit match for the title (assuming Omega still has it; this could be booked to stretch out quite a while and he may drop it to Hangman or someone else in the meantime), and honestly I can make credible arguments for putting either guy over in that one. What's your take?

Best wishes as always

Yeah I think a 60 minute draw and then no time limit PPV title match is the play.  

Repost: The SmarK Rant for THE HORROR SHOW at Extreme Rules 2020 – 07.19.20

(Unfortunately Rampage aired too late for me to review a two hour show at midnight EST because I’m old and falling asleep tonight as it is, so it’ll have to wait until tomorrow night.  But for now, here’s a repost of last year’s Extreme Rules extravaganza in preparation for Sunday’s show, which is also called Extreme Rules but only has one match with any stipulations.)

The SmarK Rant for THE HORROR SHOW at Extreme Rules 2020 – 07.19.20

Fair warning:  I didn’t start watching the show until about 2 hours into the broadcast, by which point I’d already been hit with a bunch of ominous text messages regarding the quality of what I was about to embark upon viewing.  So I’m not expecting much from this one.  In fact, it appears I have little choice but to unleash…


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Blog of DOOM Daily News Update – 25th September 2021

Happy Saturday Everyone!

I thought the first hour of Rampage was overall stronger than the second hour, but I did enjoy the Main Event. I won’t spoil what happened but there was a particular bit in the Lights Out match that made me pop.

I’m at a wrestling show today so I’ll sadly miss Everton against Norwich. Norwich haven’t won a game yet this season, which usually means that we’re going to be the ones to gift it to them. Hopefully I’m wrong.

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Rampage – September 24, 2021 (Grand Slam)

Date: September 24, 2021
Location: Arthur Ashe Tennis Stadium, New York City, New York
Commentators: Excalibur, Taz, Ricky Starks

It’s the second half of AEW’s New York Adventures and that’s not a bad thing. This week’s Dynamite was huge and this is the biggest Rampage to date, clocking in at two hours instead of the usual one. I’m not sure what that is going to mean, but odds are it’s going to be fun. Let’s get to it.

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Smackdown – September 24, 2021

Date: September 24, 2021
Location: Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Commentators: Michael Cole, Pat McAfee

It’s the go home show for Extreme Rules, which is mostly minus the extreme. The one stipulation confirmed so far has been Roman Reigns vs. Finn Balor in an Extreme Rules match, though maybe we can get some more added this week. There is also an Intercontinental Title match scheduled so let’s get to it.

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No Peace Underground: Shallow Graves

Shallow Graves
Date: April 10, 2021
Location: Cuban Club, Tampa, Florida
Commentators: Drenen, Kid Osborne

This is another one from Wrestlemania Weekend and I’m not sure what to expect. I have a bad feeling that I’m getting into another hardcore/deathmatch/no rules kind of show and that is not going to be my cup of orange juice. Hopefully they surprise me and there are some talented names on the roster. Let’s get to it.

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Friday Night Get-Down: September 24, 2021

TONIGHT!  It’s the last stop before Extreme Rules, and the next stop in New York City!  SmackDown starts at 8 with its usual two hours of wrestling fun, complete with Shinsuke Nakamura defending the Intercontinental Title against Apollo Crews!  Then it’s Rampage right after at 10 for a special two-hour show, culminating in Jon Moxley and Eddie Kingston against Suzuki-Gun!

SUNDAY!  Extreme Rules itself is underway!  Roman Reigns has been champion for 13 months, but now Finn Balor’s powered-up Demon form stands in the way!  Plus, Bianca Belair looks to get the title back from Becky Lynch, Alexa Bliss hopes to take Charlotte Flair’s identity from her, and Meltzer claims the entire crowd walks out on the opening pyro!

IN BETWEEN!  Mike’s Stinkers is back on the blog!  Every month, our man Mike Fitzgerald looks to see if a show has earned its bad reputation, and this month, it’s Bunkhouse Stampede!

But first, here it is — your moment of Zen:

All right, folks, we’ve been over the rules.  I expect you to obey the mods’ instructions at all times.  I want a good clean thread.  Now — touch gloves, go to your keyboards, and come out posting!


Impact Wrestling – September 23, 2021

Impact Wrestling
Date: September 23, 2021
Location: Skyway Studios, Nashville, Tennessee
Commentators: D’Lo Brown, Matt Striker

We are a month away from Bound For Glory and it seems that we have a main event. At Victory Road, X-Division Champion Josh Alexander announced that he was using Option C to cash in his title for a shot at Christian Cage’s World Title. This has been teased for a few weeks now and is the absolute best idea that they have at the moment. Alexander feels unbeatable and that comes from months of putting in the effort. Let’s get to it.

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What the World Was Watching: WWF Wrestling Challenge – June 24, 1990

Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan call the action, which originates from Rochester, New York.  According to, these tapings took place on June 5 and drew a crowd of 8,000 fans.

The Bushwhackers squash match from Prime Time Wrestling is today’s opener.

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Favorite Hulkster Tall Tale?

With the Hulkster's little white lies back on the tip of every Hulkamaniac's tongue, dude, we here at Obtuse Angles are talking about our favorite Hulk Hogan Tall Tales, jack! What's your favorite one, brother? Mine is the real American himself was a Japanese shoot fighter in the 70's! Care to fire up three times and give us a plugsky?

I’m still fond of the idea that he was going to be in Metallica and had to pass.  



    Any insight on why they are moving networks?  I imagine it doesn't affect viewership at all (if you have TNT, you have TBS), just seems like an odd move with how successful it's been for them, unless they just really believe that it's taking away from the 981648 commercials they need to run for Snowpiercer.

Because TBS won’t preempt them for basketball and hockey a milllion times.